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  • What TE do you think the Giants will take in draft?

    a) Dwayne Allen (1-2 round)
    b) Coby Fleener (1-2 round)
    c) Orson Charles (2 round)
    d) Ladarius Green (3 round)
    e) Michael Egnew (3-4 round)
    f) Other TE
    e) No TEs in the draft

  • #2
    Re: What TE do you think the Giants will take in draft?



    My guess now, prior to free agency and pro day workouts, I would say "B".







    But personally if he is gone, I would be ok with "D" or "E" in the 3rd or 4th rd.

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    • #3
      Re: What TE do you think the Giants will take in draft?

      4-7 rounds

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      • #4
        Re: What TE do you think the Giants will take in draft?

        allen,egnew,dunsmore,

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        • #5
          Re: What TE do you think the Giants will take in draft?

          I don't think the Giants would spend a 1st round pick on a TE but I can see the Giants taking "c) Orson Charles" in the 2nd round if he is available. That would be my pick. Some analysts think he is the best TE in the draft. Very strong as he benched 35 times in the combine and has been clocked as fast as 4.54 in the 40 yard dash which is way faster than Allen and Fleener. His negative is his height though.



          Release: Smaller than most tight ends and possesses short arms but
          has good upper-body strength to fight through an initial jam at the line
          of scrimmage and has the speed and athleticism to burn defenders for
          challenging him. Good burst off the snap to quickly slip past. Dips his
          shoulder to slip past the defensive end and shows a good rip to knock
          the linebacker's hands off him.




          Hands: Reaches out to catch the ball away from his frame. Strong
          hands to pull down the contested reception. Has good hand-eye
          coordination and body control to turn and adjust to poorly thrown balls.
          Does struggle a bit tracking the ball over his shoulder and will turn
          back towards it and leap to catch rather than allowing it to float down
          to him, on occasion.




          Route running: Good quickness off the snap. Very good speed for
          the position which he uses to attack down the seam well. Generates good
          burst out of his breaks to gain separation. His experience as a receiver
          in high school is obvious in how e uses shoulder fakes and varying his
          speed to get open. Used on a variety of routes as Georgia designed plays
          to get him the ball in space. Lined up next to both tackle as a
          traditional tight end, as well as in motion, as an H-back and split out
          in the slot. Has the burst off the snap to be split out wide in the NFL,
          as well.




          After the catch: Good strength and effort to run through arm
          tackles. Good vision to set up his blocks and while he isn't quick
          enough to elude in tight quarters he can take advantage of a defender
          leaning to spring for additional yardage. Very good speed for the
          position. Has a second gear to accelerate that will make him a
          legitimate big play threat in the NFL. Has to do a better of keeping the
          ball tight to his body as he'll allow the ball to get poked out while
          fighting for extra yardage (Georgia Tech).




          Blocking: Has obvious size limitations but might be the toughest
          pound for pound blocker among the 2012 crop of tight ends
          . Seems to
          enjoy the physical confrontation of blocking. Is willing to attack much
          bigger defenders with an explosive pop and good strength and competes to
          the whistle. Good effort at both stages on combo blocks. Looks to help
          out his teammates downfield. Was used as an H-back and even served as a
          lead fullback, on occasion.






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          • #6
            Re: What TE do you think the Giants will take in draft?

            I don't think the Giants would spend a 1st round pick on a TE but I can see the Giants taking "c) Orson Charles" in the 2nd round if he is available. That would be my pick. Some analysts think he is the best TE in the draft. Very strong as he benched 35 times in the combine and has been clocked as fast as 4.54 in the 40 yard dash which is way faster than Allen and Fleener. His negative is his height though.



            Release: Smaller than most tight ends and possesses short arms but
            has good upper-body strength to fight through an initial jam at the line
            of scrimmage and has the speed and athleticism to burn defenders for
            challenging him. Good burst off the snap to quickly slip past. Dips his
            shoulder to slip past the defensive end and shows a good rip to knock
            the linebacker's hands off him.




            Hands: Reaches out to catch the ball away from his frame. Strong
            hands to pull down the contested reception. Has good hand-eye
            coordination and body control to turn and adjust to poorly thrown balls.
            Does struggle a bit tracking the ball over his shoulder and will turn
            back towards it and leap to catch rather than allowing it to float down
            to him, on occasion.




            Route running: Good quickness off the snap. Very good speed for
            the position which he uses to attack down the seam well. Generates good
            burst out of his breaks to gain separation. His experience as a receiver
            in high school is obvious in how e uses shoulder fakes and varying his
            speed to get open. Used on a variety of routes as Georgia designed plays
            to get him the ball in space. Lined up next to both tackle as a
            traditional tight end, as well as in motion, as an H-back and split out
            in the slot. Has the burst off the snap to be split out wide in the NFL,
            as well.




            After the catch: Good strength and effort to run through arm
            tackles. Good vision to set up his blocks and while he isn't quick
            enough to elude in tight quarters he can take advantage of a defender
            leaning to spring for additional yardage. Very good speed for the
            position. Has a second gear to accelerate that will make him a
            legitimate big play threat in the NFL. Has to do a better of keeping the
            ball tight to his body as he'll allow the ball to get poked out while
            fighting for extra yardage (Georgia Tech).




            Blocking: Has obvious size limitations but might be the toughest
            pound for pound blocker among the 2012 crop of tight ends
            . Seems to
            enjoy the physical confrontation of blocking. Is willing to attack much
            bigger defenders with an explosive pop and good strength and competes to
            the whistle. Good effort at both stages on combo blocks. Looks to help
            out his teammates downfield. Was used as an H-back and even served as a
            lead fullback, on occasion.






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            • #7
              Re: What TE do you think the Giants will take in draft?

              One thing we've all learned, it's never what we all except.....
              TE is not going to be BPA when we pick, in the 1st, so unless Allen & fleener make it to the 2nd then id say they're out of it.....
              I think Egnew seems like the under the radar/upside pick I could see the giants making in the 3rd...

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              • #8
                Re: What TE do you think the Giants will take in draft?

                Egnew as a receiver is fine but his blocking is questionable. Giants still need a TE to block especially when the O-line has struggled. Can he learn and improve? He wasn't even used in a 3 point stance.

                Blocking: Not a coveted prospect because of his blocking, but is not
                contact-shy on the edge. Usually finds a target whether it is his
                assignment or if blocking downfield for a teammate, though quicker
                defenders will ran by him. Positions himself correctly to wall off
                defenders, uses length and footwork to hold them at bay. Not used
                in-line from three-point stance. Will seal the edge and get in the way
                as a blocker at the next level but needs work on bend, lateral agility
                and upper-body strength to do more.



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                • #9
                  Re: What TE do you think the Giants will take in draft?

                  [quote user="myles2424"]One thing we've all learned, it's never what we all except.....
                  TE is not going to be BPA when we pick, in the 1st, so unless Allen & fleener make it to the 2nd then id say they're out of it.....
                  I think Egnew seems like the under the radar/upside pick I could see the giants making in the 3rd...[/quote]

                  Yea. BPA definitely wouldn't be a tight end for the Giants in 1st round especially since Dwayne Allen hurt his value at the combine by his 4.78 seconds in the 40 yard dash. Giants should look at a TE in the 2nd round where either Allen, Fleener or Orson Charles would be available. And Orson Charles looks the most promising.

                  If the Giants were going for OL in the 1st, Gordy Glenn was the perfect match but he was so good in the combine that he is unlikely to be available. Mike Adams was picked for the Giants in lot of mock drafts. However, Mike Adams had a bad combine when he only benched 19 times which is terrible and Adams's heart should be questioned when he was unprepared for the combine. Gordy Glenn benched 31 times. Orson Charles (TE) benched 35 times.

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                  • #10
                    Re: What TE do you think the Giants will take in draft?

                    It is really hard to answer until we go through Free agency and see if we can get any vets.
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                    • #11
                      Re: What TE do you think the Giants will take in draft?

                      I really like Coby Fleener. He's close to the size and weight of Rob Gronkowski he has a lot of potential.

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                      • #12
                        Re: What TE do you think the Giants will take in draft?

                        [quote user="BlueSanta"]It is really hard to answer until we go through Free agency and see if we can get any vets.
                        [/quote]

                        Who do you like in free agency for TEs? It is a terrible free agency class for TEs.

                        http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...75988/34986580

                        Shiancoe, Martellus Bennet, Joel Dreessen, Fred Davis, Jeremy Shockey?!

                        Ehhh.

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                        • #13
                          Re: What TE do you think the Giants will take in draft?

                          [quote user="BigBlue187"]I really like Coby Fleener. He's close to the size and weight of Rob Gronkowski he has a lot of potential.
                          [/quote]

                          He is just so slow though (slower than Allen and Charles) and has 4.78 second in 40 yard dash speed..... Gronk has 4.65 speed. All the great TEs have much faster times than Fleener. Would you take Fleener in the 1st round? Maybe if he drops to the 2nd round for the Giants but I doubt he will be available by then.

                          PS... Fleener is like 20 pounds lighter than Gronk... He only weighs 247 lbs but both same height.

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                          • #14
                            Re: What TE do you think the Giants will take in draft?



                            [quote user="bflo23"][quote user="BlueSanta"]It is really hard to answer until we go through Free agency and see if we can get any vets.
                            [/quote]

                            Who do you like in free agency for TEs? It is a terrible free agency class for TEs.

                            http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...75988/34986580

                            Shiancoe, Martellus Bennet, Joel Dreessen, Fred Davis, Jeremy Shockey?!

                            Ehhh.
                            [/quote]I worry about Davis---another drug violation and I think he misses an entire season? I would be open to a vet like Shiancoe for a reasonable contract. Dressen stepped up this year when Daniels missed some time. Bennett is young and is a solid TE. I have heard some people question his work ethic.







                            But for a friendly cap number, any of those 3 would be on my FA list to join Pascoe and Hopkins.

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                            • #15
                              Re: What TE do you think the Giants will take in draft?

                              [quote user="tonyt830"]

                              My guess now, prior to free agency and pro day workouts, I would say "B".




                              *




                              But personally if he is gone, I would be ok with "D" or "E" in the 3rd or 4th rd.

                              [/quote]

                              anybody got any videos on these guys?

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