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    EXPECT GIANTS TO FILL THEIR TIGHT END NEED VIA FREE AGENCY

    "New York
    Giants head coach Tom
    Coughlin
    may have tipped his cap a bit in terms of the team's free agent
    priorities this past weekend at the scouting combine. It is no secret that the
    team needs to add a tight end, but Coughlin made no bones about the fact that
    the team must add another tight end.

    Last year at the combine, Coughlin was asked what the teams biggest need was
    and he answered "center." Of course, the day free agency opened the team signed
    free agent David Baas from the San Francisco 49ers to a five-year deal.


    Now, in order for Jerry Reese to maintain his value-heavy strategy, it is
    critical to fill certain needs via free agency. Expect the Giants to be in the
    mix for some free agent tight ends come March.




    There are several solid options set to hit the open market.




    1. MartellusBennett, Dallas
    Cowboys
    – The 6'6", 270 pound Bennett was someone
    that Dallas
    Cowboys
    owner Jerry Jones once refused to trade to the Cincinnati Bengals
    for what was rumored to be a "significant" deal. He was that highly valued in
    the Cowboys organization. Now, he has fallen out of favor a bit. More of a
    blocker as it is, Bennett has caught only 85 passes for 846 yards in his entire
    career with the Cowboys and only 17 for 144 in 2011.




    Third year player John Phillips out of Virginia has gained favor within the
    organization as the second man behind all-pro Jason Witten.




    The Giants do not ask much of their tight ends in terms of receiving, as none
    have gone over 60 catches since Jeremy Shockey. With Bennett's frame, he could
    be a potentially good fit for a team looking to improve run blocking and who
    also has a banged up tight end group.




    2. John
    Carlson
    , Seattle
    Seahawks
    – The former Notre Dame tight end got off to a great
    start to his career in Seattle before injuries de-railed him. He is more of a
    receiving tight end (listed at "only" 251).




    Carlson has recorded 137 receptions for 1,519 yards and 13 touchdowns in four
    years in Seattle and is now the second man behind Zach
    Miller
    .




    With the contrasting styles of the two, it could speak to where the team
    believes the offense is going from here on out. Mario
    Manningham
    will leave the offense bereft of a significant 3rd receiving
    option, a role Carlson could help fill, but with their 32ndranked running game,
    the Giants couldstand to upgrade the blocking out of the tight end position
    (which could be a reflection on Bear
    Pascoe
    as well).




    For my money, Bennett would be the guy right now.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

  • #2
    Re: EXPECT GIANTS TO FILL THEIR TIGHT END NEED VIA FREE AGENCY

    Of those two, I like Bennett.

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    • #3
      Re: EXPECT GIANTS TO FILL THEIR TIGHT END NEED VIA FREE AGENCY

      I don't buy it. If the Giants go FA with their Tight End needs, I don't see us grabbing a TE who can't catch (ala Bennet).

      We already have a blocking TE in Pascoe .. I would think if we went FA we'd go get someone like Scott Chandler from the Bills. Not too expensive, a good blocker and a seam/fade threat. Definite end zone presence.
      I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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      • #4
        Re: EXPECT GIANTS TO FILL THEIR TIGHT END NEED VIA FREE AGENCY

        I can see them signing someone via FA, but more likely someone obscure who will sign at a bargain and compete for the job. Or they will wait until someone is cut.

        We needed a TE last year, and we saw how they approached that.

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        • #5
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          I said this in another thread that I feel the Giants will go later rounds or low expense FA for TE. I like Pascoe to fill Ballard's spot till he can return. My theory is now that Bear doesn't haveto split his practice time with FB duties he will be free to fully participate with Mike Pope and the offesnse as a TE only and that will benefit he and the Giants. I also like Christian Hopkins. I will mention him in every thread I see about TE's....




          "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
          You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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          • #6
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            [quote user="GameTime"]

            I said this in another thread that I feel the Giants will go later rounds or low expense FA for TE. I like Pascoe to fill Ballard's spot till he can return. My theory is now that Bear doesn't have*to split his practice time with FB duties he will be free to fully participate with Mike Pope and the offesnse as a TE only and that will benefit he and the Giants. *I also like Christian Hopkins. I will mention him in every thread I see about TE's....




            *

            [/quote]

            Someone did that with Jake last year and he turned out well

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            • #7
              Re: EXPECT GIANTS TO FILL THEIR TIGHT END NEED VIA FREE AGENCY

              [quote user="Kruunch"]I don't buy it. If the Giants go FA with their Tight End needs, I don't see us grabbing a TE who can't catch (ala Bennet).

              We already have a blocking TE in Pascoe .. I would think if we went FA we'd go get someone like Scott Chandler from the Bills. Not too expensive, a good blocker and a seam/fade threat. Definite end zone presence.[/quote]

              Remember two things. Here, a tight end is a lineman FIRST. We have two tight ends that they like who will likely start the season on PUP and, at least in Ballard's case, could be the future TE.

              Pascoe is not a slouch, but he is slow lol
              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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              • #8
                Re: EXPECT GIANTS TO FILL THEIR TIGHT END NEED VIA FREE AGENCY

                A Big, and I mean a Big no Thank You to Martellus Bennett.

                I would take Carlson way before Bennett.

                I heard Ben Patrick may also be an option as well :-)

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                  Re: EXPECT GIANTS TO FILL THEIR TIGHT END NEED VIA FREE AGENCY



                  [quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="Kruunch"]I don't buy it. If the Giants go FA with their Tight End needs, I don't see us grabbing a TE who can't catch (ala Bennet). We already have a blocking TE in Pascoe .. I would think if we went FA we'd go get someone like Scott Chandler from the Bills. Not too expensive, a good blocker and a seam/fade threat. Definite end zone presence.[/quote]

                  Remember two things. Here, a tight end is a lineman FIRST. We have two tight ends that they like who will likely start the season on PUP and, at least in Ballard's case, could be the future TE.

                  Pascoe is not a slouch, but he is slow lol
                  [/quote]




                  he andBallard are on the same track speed wise. Pascoe did hurdle Newman though....but then again...who didnt...lol

                  "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                  You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                  • #10
                    Re: EXPECT GIANTS TO FILL THEIR TIGHT END NEED VIA FREE AGENCY

                    [quote user="Tommy_Ribs"]A Big, and I mean a Big no Thank You to Martellus Bennett.

                    I would take Carlson way before Bennett.

                    I heard Ben Patrick may also be an option as well :-)
                    [/quote]

                    LMAO on Patrick. His ink wasn't dry on his last contract before he "retired"
                    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                    • #11
                      Re: EXPECT GIANTS TO FILL THEIR TIGHT END NEED VIA FREE AGENCY

                      Out of those 2 I would take Bennett. Maybe a change of scenary would bring out his potential.

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                      • #12
                        Re: EXPECT GIANTS TO FILL THEIR TIGHT END NEED VIA FREE AGENCY

                        [quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="Kruunch"]I don't buy it. If the Giants go FA with their Tight End needs, I don't see us grabbing a TE who can't catch (ala Bennet).

                        We already have a blocking TE in Pascoe .. I would think if we went FA we'd go get someone like Scott Chandler from the Bills. Not too expensive, a good blocker and a seam/fade threat. Definite end zone presence.[/quote]

                        Remember two things.* Here, a tight end is a lineman FIRST.* We have two tight ends that they like who will likely start the season on PUP and, at least in Ballard's case, could be the future TE.

                        Pascoe is not a slouch, but he is slow* lol
                        [/quote]

                        Except one of the TEs you just mentioned is not a blocking TE (Beckum).

                        The Giants (for years) have wanted to have a play making tight end and especially since the departure of Shockey. Since we had Boss and then the suprise with Ballard, the *need* wasn't as severe so always took a back seat to more pressing needs.

                        However in 2009 we drafted Beckum in the 3rd round; a TE with no blocking utility at all who was all slot and seam. Now Beckum hasn't particularly worked out, but I don't think that has sated the Giants' desire for a play making TE. Since we physically need a TE and we already have a solid blocking TE (Pascoe) AND since our first pick in the draft will probably fall in an area where the BPA is a Tight End ... seems almost like a no brainer.

                        Having said that, this draft in general is horrible for TEs, so if we don't grab one in the 1st, we'd have a value pick in the 4th or 5th rounds at that position (or FA if we go that route).

                        But I'd be willing to bet that no matter which way we go, the TE we grab to compliment Pascoe will be a pass catcher.
                        I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                        • #13
                          Re: EXPECT GIANTS TO FILL THEIR TIGHT END NEED VIA FREE AGENCY

                          [quote user="Tommy_Ribs"]A Big, and I mean a Big no Thank You to Martellus Bennett.

                          I would take Carlson way before Bennett.

                          I heard Ben Patrick may also be an option as well :-)
                          [/quote]

                          +1
                          I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                          • #14
                            Re: EXPECT GIANTS TO FILL THEIR TIGHT END NEED VIA FREE AGENCY

                            Before everyone goes silly with the Christian Hopkins talk lets remember he is on the PS for a reason. Yes guys do come off that sqaud and play roles on the team - some even large roles - but those are usually the exceptions not the rules.

                            Jake Ballard actually put up better number in less games over a one year span then boss ever did in his career. But he will be on the pup most likely.

                            Pascoe is definitely more of a blcoking TE but by no means is he a standout blocker - he does the job but an adequate one at that.

                            Any way in which you can help Eli with a new target and have guy to help seal off the edge would be nice - I like the idea of chandler as a underrated pass recieving TE - and I still think bennett has potential. Te is limited in the draft but at 32 YOU COULD get the best of the draft and you only need one. By one i simply mean i dont care if its a bad TE draft if we get the next Gonzalez it wont matter.

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                            • #15
                              Re: EXPECT GIANTS TO FILL THEIR TIGHT END NEED VIA FREE AGENCY

                              [quote user="dave56dj"]Before everyone goes silly with the Christian Hopkins talk lets remember he is on the PS for a reason. Yes guys do come off that sqaud and play roles on the team - some even large roles - but those are usually the exceptions not the rules. [/quote]
                              I can think of a couple of exceptions off the top of my head, 1) Pascoe, and 2) Ballard.

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