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    One of the best young WR's in the league combined with the two best route runners in the league.



    If Steve is healthy I'd absolutely love to have him back.. how would you defend that?

    You can't NOT double Nicks unless you want to give up a TD, that means we would never fail on 3rd down again with Cruz & Smith....lol


    Seriously think of the possibilities. Cruz and Steve Smith are two of the BEST route runners in the NFL. The moves they make make defenders look silly at times.


    How would you defend that? There's absolutely no way to.
    "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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    SS wont be back as a Giant. Plus, the G-men just resigned D. Hixon. And are in more of a need to sign Manningham if at all possible. Nicks----Manninghma--------Cruz were awesome all year long. not to mention, Nicks out of all the Heyward-bey's, Dez, Britts and co. was the best WR from that 3 yr WR class of drafts. None of this works without "NY" Nicks on this team.

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    • #3
      Re: Nicks-------------------------Smith-------------------------Cruz

      [quote user="NYG4lifeNYK"]One of the best young WR's in the league combined with the two best route runners in the league.



      If Steve is healthy I'd absolutely love to have him back.. how would you defend that?

      You can't NOT double Nicks unless you want to give up a TD, that means we would never fail on 3rd down again with Cruz & Smith....lol


      Seriously think of the possibilities. Cruz and Steve Smith are two of the BEST route runners in the NFL. The moves they make make defenders look silly at times.


      How would you defend that? There's absolutely no way to.
      [/quote]

      I dont think SS is a better route runner than welker or moore on the saints, and i am sure there are more guys out there.

      No i dont want smith back. Lets keep the offense dangerous and fast. I'm loving the big plays and the dangerous runs after the catch.
      Don't take it personal, we're just debating.

      ~Big Mike~

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      • #4
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        [quote user="LT_Hits"]SS wont be back as a Giant. Plus, the G-men just resigned D. Hixon. And are in more of a need to sign Manningham if at all possible. Nicks----Manninghma--------Cruz were awesome all year long. not to mention, Nicks out of all the Heyward-bey's, Dez, Britts and co. was the best WR from that 3 yr WR class of drafts. None of this works without "NY" Nicks on this team.[/quote]

        Hixon was signed primarily for return duties. Yes he is a receiver but he is way too injury prone to be dependent on. We need a 3rd receiver and to say Steve Smith won't be back is incredible foolish. What's your reasoning for this?

        Manningham is gone my friend, it sucks but he's replaceable. He's a nice talent but with Nicks, Cruz & Smith or someone else we will be just as or even more potent. Rio was wildly inconsistent this season and we were still so deadly.
        "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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        • #5
          Re: Nicks-------------------------Smith-------------------------Cruz

          [quote user="Marvelousmik"][quote user="NYG4lifeNYK"]One of the best young WR's in the league combined with the two best route runners in the league.



          If Steve is healthy I'd absolutely love to have him back.. how would you defend that?

          You can't NOT double Nicks unless you want to give up a TD, that means we would never fail on 3rd down again with Cruz & Smith....lol


          Seriously think of the possibilities. Cruz and Steve Smith are two of the BEST route runners in the NFL. The moves they make make defenders look silly at times.


          How would you defend that? There's absolutely no way to.
          [/quote]

          I dont think SS is a better route runner than welker or moore on the saints, and i am sure there are more guys out there.

          No i dont want smith back. Lets keep the offense dangerous and fast. I'm loving the big plays and the dangerous runs after the catch.
          [/quote]

          When he was healthy he was close. Remember the okie-doke he put on scandrick? Jucked him right out of his shoes for the TD...my favorite memory of Steve.
          "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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          • #6
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            Yeah Steve Smith sure has looked like the best route runner in the league the past two years...if that's what you mean, and don't give me injury excuses. He barely even cracked the Eagles line up. What'd he have 5 catches? Listen he had a great season with us a few years ago..but stop acting like he's a top 10 wr or something people. We're moving forward with Nicks Cruz and whoever steps up to be number 3. Smith will not be a Giants

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            • #7
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              [quote user="Vtgmenfan89"]Yeah Steve Smith sure has looked like the best route runner in the league the past two years...if that's what you mean, and don't give me injury excuses. He barely even cracked the Eagles line up. What'd he have 5 catches? Listen he had a great season with us a few years ago..but stop acting like he's a top 10 wr or something people. We're moving forward with Nicks Cruz and whoever steps up to be number 3. Smith will not be a Giants[/quote]

              Steve Smith was one of the best route runners in the NFL when he was a Giant.

              No one said he was top 10 or anything to that effect.
              "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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              • #8
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                Smith can stay where the hell he is or go sign with the Cowboys for all I care

                the kid is done

                dont want him back

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                • #9
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                  Can't stop the receivers? Dial up the pressure and hit the quarterback. Everything is defendable.

                  Anyway, the current crop of receivers is fine.

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                  • #10
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                    [quote user="Vtgmenfan89"]Yeah Steve Smith sure has looked like the best route runner in the league the past two years...if that's what you mean, and don't give me injury excuses. [/quote]2010, he was averaging 60 yards a game while constantly being bracketed, and he only played 9 games. How do you want to not accept the fact that he's injured when you mention his lack of production, which is attributed to his health? That'd be like you telling me to calculate a complex math problem w/o a calculator and when it's wrong saying that I am bad at math and don't give me the I didn't have a calculator excuse.

                    And why would he crack the Eagles line up? Who has immediate success in less than a year after their first (which is the hardest to recover from) microfracture surgery? List me some players of successful players after any microfracture surgery?
                    My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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                    • #11
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                      The only condition I'd like for Steve Smith to return would be the following:

                      A) Comes at a dirt cheap price contract that is incentive based.

                      B) Realizes that he isn't guaranteed a starting spot and will be competing with the likes of Jernigan, Thomas, Barden, and Hixon.

                      C) Is willing to mentor and teach Jernigan everything he knows about playing the slot position for the Giants. This could be his biggest asset for the team.

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                      • #12
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                        [quote user="LT_Hits"]SS wont be back as a Giant. Plus, the G-men just resigned D. Hixon. And are in more of a need to sign Manningham if at all possible. Nicks----Manninghma--------Cruz were awesome all year long. not to mention, Nicks out of all the Heyward-bey's, Dez, Britts and co. was the best WR from that 3 yr WR class of drafts. None of this works without "NY" Nicks on this team.[/quote]
                        Yep you have Hixon, JJ, Barden and Thomas who all will compete for that spot. No need to waste money signing SS when we have a ton of FAs (20+) we need to try and resign.. Also if we were going to try and sign a FA WR why not try and keep MM. I know SS would come cheaper and we can't afford MM but seems what little money we do have has to be spent on preserving some key players already in giants ORG, not going out and signing new people
                        Football has been very, very good to us.
                        After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                        But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                        # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                        1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                        2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                        3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                        4-New York Giants!!!
                        5-NE
                        Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                        ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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                        • #13
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                          With our Cap problems we have no Business thinking about signing outside players when we can't afford what we have now
                          Football has been very, very good to us.
                          After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                          But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                          # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                          1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                          2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                          3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                          4-New York Giants!!!
                          5-NE
                          Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                          ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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                          • #14
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                            [quote user="NYG4lifeNYK"][quote user="LT_Hits"]SS wont be back as a Giant. Plus, the G-men just resigned D. Hixon. And are in more of a need to sign Manningham if at all possible. Nicks----Manninghma--------Cruz were awesome all year long. not to mention, Nicks out of all the Heyward-bey's, Dez, Britts and co. was the best WR from that 3 yr WR class of drafts. None of this works without "NY" Nicks on this team.[/quote]

                            Hixon was signed primarily for return duties. Yes he is a receiver but he is way too injury prone to be dependent on. We need a 3rd receiver and to say Steve Smith won't be back is incredible foolish. What's your reasoning for this?

                            Manningham is gone my friend, it sucks but he's replaceable. He's a nice talent but with Nicks, Cruz & Smith or someone else we will be just as or even more potent. Rio was wildly inconsistent this season and we were still so deadly.
                            [/quote]Then it would be that, "Someone else", you just mentioned. All I was saying is, Smith will not be a Giant next season. And if Hixon was so not going to be on the field, why did the office resign him. Hixon will get tested and will get his chance to play WR. And your right, Manningham may be gone, thats why I indicated, "if at all possible". This is not new news regarding his chances to remain. Smith not returning to the giants is more of a possibility than, Manninham's possible return. Trust me, Reese aint gonna make that call out to Steve Smith, that aint happening. I bet we pull a gem in the 4th round though.

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                            • #15
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                              Smith was awesome for the giants in the slot. If hes healthy I see no reason to not bring him back in. He wont be expensive after the season he just had.

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