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    FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED

    "The crickets are getting a bit of the spotlight now as the “Fire Tom
    Coughlin
    ” chants have subsided and the hot seat talk is a distant memory.
    It’s quiet on the New York Giants coaching front lately.

    To many, it didn’t make sense—the “clean house” banter. The team wasn’t
    giving up on their coach and they surely weren’t speaking ill of him to the
    media during the regular season weeks. The Giants don’t get rid of a head coach
    after a few proverbial bumps in the road; the organization is more loyal than
    most and believe in continuity. It was the supposed experts that initiated the
    weekly topic; some fans just followed suit. It was said not long after super
    Bowl XLVI that the Head Coach’s “hot seat” was retired. Tom
    Coughlin
    may have had quite a bit of attention on him (umm, NYC market), but
    the continued pressure came more from within the 65-year old coach. He looked in
    the mirror before he looked elsewhere for possible reasons for any faltering. He
    was not bigger than his team.

    Coughlin pays attention to detail and is disciplined in his coaching manner.
    Why not better the team by changing the approach to his older coaching style?
    The Giants are still a young team with many new players, meaning different type
    of receptiveness from that of his 2007 audience. He used his assistant coaches
    as the branches of communication that they are. Personal bonds were built and
    clarity of a common goal was achieved. All In. The tradition that is New York
    Giants football
    remains with Coughlin and trickles down through every coach, assistant coach and
    trainer, eventually reaching every player. It was just a matter of how to convey
    the knowledge and the message of Giants Pride.

    Tom
    Coughlin
    has Big Blue at a 74-54 regular season Win-Loss record since 2004
    (almost a 58% win percentage) when he was announced head coach after sitting out
    of football in
    2003. His post-season record is 8-3, an astounding 73% win percentage. Oh, then
    there’s those two Lombardi trophies. The man holds better post-season stats (in
    a shorter amount of time) with the Giants than his supposed/projected
    replacements: Bill Cowher, Steve Mariucci and Jon Gruden. The clamor should stop
    at some point after the proof, no? Eh, ask Eli Manning how that goes.


    One last (surprising) non-topic as of late is the contract situation of the
    two-time Super Bowl-winning Head Coach. Coughlin is still only under contract
    through 2012. There’s absolutely no doubt that TC will be an important returning
    part of the Big Blue machine. There’s absolutely no doubt that John Mara and
    Steve Tisch fully support their coach. There’s also absolutely no doubt that
    Tom’s focus is on the New York Football Giants, not himself.

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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    Re: FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED

    Well, there's no such thing in NY sports (Joe Torre wins 4 in 5 years and gets them in the playoffs 14 years in a row and he's gone).

    But Coughlin's got a LONG leash and would have to screw up many, many years in a row for the seat to be hot again. I really thought Coughlin was on the Torre path and it was time to let go in 2011, glad I was wrong.

    Besides, Tom's in rare territory now, and providing he doesn't quit on us after rookie camp like Parcells, he'll be making the footprints somebody else will have to follow.
    8-Time NFL Champions - 1927 1934 1938 1956 1986 1990 2007 2011

    "You win close games because you're prepared to do it. It doesn't just come down to luck." -- Bill Parcells

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    • #3
      Re: FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED

      Coughlin will coach the Giants until either
      A) he retires
      B) he dies

      We could see an 80 year old coach Coughlin on the sidelines and I'd be fine with it. He's a great coach and guys like him don't come around often. I would say he's on par with Belicheck as the two best in the league and one of the best in history.

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      • #4
        Re: FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED

        next week would be a good time to play a joke on TC by saying we'd like you to train your successor this season, a guy like rob ryan... & then in '13 we will put you in our ring of honor
        APRIL FOOLS

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        • #5
          Re: FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED

          tc is the man. never understood some of the hate for him. strength of schedule and injuries are the main reason for the 2nd half of the season schedule record imo. and for people that have looked and focused at that then look at the playoff record and goliath teams the gmen took down in them under tc. i know you can argue players are responsible for all that so look at the stuff that is unarguable that tc handled.

          i think he still has the best win% for challenges in nfl history. hc clock and t/o management has been about if not the best in the nfl since he's been here. no doubt he fixed tikis fumbling coin flip and t/os or no to to get the wind for kicking.

          tc is the man .

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          • #6
            Re: FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED



            some may consider TC the Giants greated hc of all times!




            he deserves to finish his career in style hopefully with a coupla more sb rings!

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            • #7
              Re: FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED

              [quote user="RoanokeFan"]FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED

              "The crickets are getting a bit of the spotlight now as the “Fire Tom
              Coughlin
              ” chants have subsided and the hot seat talk is a distant memory.
              It’s quiet on the New York Giants coaching front lately.



              New York Giants head coach Tom
              Coughlin
              holds trophy aloft at Super Bowl XLVI at Lucas Oil Stadium on
              February 5, 2012 in Indianapolis. New York beat New England 21-17 to win Super Bowl XLVI
              UPI/Kevin Dietsch




















              To many, it didn’t make sense—the “clean house” banter. The team wasn’t
              giving up on their coach and they surely weren’t speaking ill of him to the
              media during the regular season weeks. The Giants don’t get rid of a head coach
              after a few proverbial bumps in the road; the organization is more loyal than
              most and believe in continuity. It was the supposed experts that initiated the
              weekly topic; some fans just followed suit. It was said not long after super
              Bowl XLVI that the Head Coach’s “hot seat” was retired. Tom
              Coughlin
              may have had quite a bit of attention on him (umm, NYC market), but
              the continued pressure came more from within the 65-year old coach. He looked in
              the mirror before he looked elsewhere for possible reasons for any faltering. He
              was not bigger than his team.*




              Coughlin pays attention to detail and is disciplined in his coaching manner.
              Why not better the team by changing the approach to his older coaching style?
              The Giants are still a young team with many new players, meaning different type
              of receptiveness from that of his 2007 audience. He used his assistant coaches
              as the branches of communication that they are. Personal bonds were built and
              clarity of a common goal was achieved. All In. The tradition that is New York
              Giants football
              remains with Coughlin and trickles down through every coach, assistant coach and
              trainer, eventually reaching every player. It was just a matter of how to convey
              the knowledge and the message of Giants Pride.*




              Tom
              Coughlin
              has Big Blue at a 74-54 regular season Win-Loss record since 2004
              (almost a 58% win percentage) when he was announced head coach after sitting out
              of football in
              2003. His post-season record is 8-3, an astounding 73% win percentage. Oh, then
              there’s those two Lombardi trophies. The man holds better post-season stats (in
              a shorter amount of time) with the Giants than his supposed/projected
              replacements: Bill Cowher, Steve Mariucci and Jon Gruden. The clamor should stop
              at some point after the proof, no? Eh, ask Eli Manning how that goes.




              One last (surprising) non-topic as of late is the contract situation of the
              two-time Super Bowl-winning Head Coach. Coughlin is still only under contract
              through 2012. There’s absolutely no doubt that TC will be an important returning
              part of the Big Blue machine. There’s absolutely no doubt that John Mara and
              Steve Tisch fully support their coach. There’s also absolutely no doubt that
              Tom’s focus is on the New York Football Giants, not himself.

              [/quote]
              Ive wondered what people around the NFL now think of COughlin after his 2nd Super Bowl. He is probably now into the Top 15 All time NFL Coaches

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              • #8
                Re: FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED

                I was thoroughly perplexed while clicking the link as the FOREVER COOLED part was omitted in the title. So it read the "Hot Seat is Now".

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                • #9
                  Re: FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED

                  [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="RoanokeFan"]FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED

                  "The crickets are getting a bit of the spotlight now as the “Fire Tom
                  Coughlin
                  ” chants have subsided and the hot seat talk is a distant memory.
                  It’s quiet on the New York Giants coaching front lately.



                  New York Giants head coach Tom
                  Coughlin
                  holds trophy aloft at Super Bowl XLVI at Lucas Oil Stadium on
                  February 5, 2012 in Indianapolis. New York beat New England 21-17 to win Super Bowl XLVI
                  UPI/Kevin Dietsch




















                  To many, it didn’t make sense—the “clean house” banter. The team wasn’t
                  giving up on their coach and they surely weren’t speaking ill of him to the
                  media during the regular season weeks. The Giants don’t get rid of a head coach
                  after a few proverbial bumps in the road; the organization is more loyal than
                  most and believe in continuity. It was the supposed experts that initiated the
                  weekly topic; some fans just followed suit. It was said not long after super
                  Bowl XLVI that the Head Coach’s “hot seat” was retired. Tom
                  Coughlin
                  may have had quite a bit of attention on him (umm, NYC market), but
                  the continued pressure came more from within the 65-year old coach. He looked in
                  the mirror before he looked elsewhere for possible reasons for any faltering. He
                  was not bigger than his team.*




                  Coughlin pays attention to detail and is disciplined in his coaching manner.
                  Why not better the team by changing the approach to his older coaching style?
                  The Giants are still a young team with many new players, meaning different type
                  of receptiveness from that of his 2007 audience. He used his assistant coaches
                  as the branches of communication that they are. Personal bonds were built and
                  clarity of a common goal was achieved. All In. The tradition that is New York
                  Giants football
                  remains with Coughlin and trickles down through every coach, assistant coach and
                  trainer, eventually reaching every player. It was just a matter of how to convey
                  the knowledge and the message of Giants Pride.*




                  Tom
                  Coughlin
                  has Big Blue at a 74-54 regular season Win-Loss record since 2004
                  (almost a 58% win percentage) when he was announced head coach after sitting out
                  of football in
                  2003. His post-season record is 8-3, an astounding 73% win percentage. Oh, then
                  there’s those two Lombardi trophies. The man holds better post-season stats (in
                  a shorter amount of time) with the Giants than his supposed/projected
                  replacements: Bill Cowher, Steve Mariucci and Jon Gruden. The clamor should stop
                  at some point after the proof, no? Eh, ask Eli Manning how that goes.




                  One last (surprising) non-topic as of late is the contract situation of the
                  two-time Super Bowl-winning Head Coach. Coughlin is still only under contract
                  through 2012. There’s absolutely no doubt that TC will be an important returning
                  part of the Big Blue machine. There’s absolutely no doubt that John Mara and
                  Steve Tisch fully support their coach. There’s also absolutely no doubt that
                  Tom’s focus is on the New York Football Giants, not himself.

                  [/quote]
                  Ive wondered what people around the NFL now think of COughlin after his 2nd Super Bowl. He is probably now into the Top 15 All time NFL Coaches[/quote]

                  He's close to it.

                  Even before the post season this past year, he was tied for 19th all time with his career regular season record. Before his 4 post season wins and the SB.

                  Another couple years pacing as he has as the Giants HC, and he will be in the Top 15 All Time, no doubt.

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                  • #10
                    Re: FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED

                    [quote user="THE_New_York_Giants"]Coughlin will coach the Giants until either
                    A) he retires
                    B) he dies

                    We could see an 80 year old coach Coughlin on the sidelines and I'd be fine with it. He's a great coach and guys like him don't come around often. I would say he's on par with Belicheck as the two best in the league and one of the best in history.[/quote]

                    good post.


                    NFL Championships : 1927 1934 1938 1956 Super Bowl Champions: XXI XXV XLII XLVI

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                    • #11
                      Re: FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED

                      [quote user="Redeyejedi"]
                      Ive wondered what people around the NFL now think of COughlin after his 2nd Super Bowl. He is probably now into the Top 15 All time NFL Coaches[/quote]

                      This is not opinion but fact; I worked it out before and there are 10-12 coaches who've won multiple Super Bowls and all but two or so are hall of famers or locks...

                      Lombardi, Landry, Knoll, Gibbs, Parcells, Tom Flores (Raiders), Walsh, Jimmy Johnson, Siefert, Shanahan, Belichick, Coughlin. I probably missed somebody.

                      Some pretty elite company.
                      8-Time NFL Champions - 1927 1934 1938 1956 1986 1990 2007 2011

                      "You win close games because you're prepared to do it. It doesn't just come down to luck." -- Bill Parcells

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                      • #12
                        Re: FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED

                        [quote user="SweetZombieJesus"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]
                        Ive wondered what people around the NFL now think of COughlin after his 2nd Super Bowl. He is probably now into the Top 15 All time NFL Coaches[/quote]

                        This is not opinion but fact; I worked it out before and there are 10-12 coaches who've won multiple Super Bowls and all but two or so are hall of famers or locks...*

                        Lombardi, Landry, Knoll, Gibbs, Parcells, Tom Flores (Raiders), Walsh, Jimmy Johnson, Siefert, Shanahan, Belichick, Coughlin.* I probably missed somebody.

                        Some pretty elite company.
                        [/quote]

                        Also Don Shula (his Colts and Dolphins teams played in 6 Super Bowls, won 2.

                        Goerge Halas, Paul Brown, at least a couple other pre-Super Bowl era won multiple championships.

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                        • #13
                          Re: FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED

                          Any missteps in our coaching have been made by others, not TC (remember Sheridan?) TC is probably the best coach the Giants ever had.

                          Bill Who?

                          I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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                          • #14
                            Re: FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED

                            Not by me.....but the next time the Giants fall into a rough patch, it will no doubt start again. The media loves to start crap. It will be "he's too old, he's lost it".....fans, here I'm sure, will start calling for his head, saying it's time to move on. No one in a large market is ever really secure; from that I mean. In Reese's, Mara's and Tisch's minds, he probably is, and that means a lot. But I think anyone who thinks that no one will ever say "fire Coughlin", no matter come what may,again is over-optimistic.

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                            • #15
                              Re: FOR NEW YORK GIANTS' HEAD COACH TOM COUGHLIN, THE HOT SEAT IS NOW FOREVER COOLED



                              coaches that never run into rough spots along the way are by far the exception and not the rule.




                              TC had his down times for sure but its what you do overall that really matters. Obviously over the course of his coaching career he has been very good to great at times.




                              He will pack it in after the 2014 season IMO. He allow for the chance to coach a Super Bowl in his own house and then call it a day.




                              He deserves all the accolades he is getting.

                              "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                              You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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