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    Year Rnd Player\ College Impact
    1981 1 Lawrence Taylor North Carolina 10
    1984 1 Carl Banks Michigan State 9.5
    1993 8 Jessie Armstead Miami (FL) 9
    1986 2 Pepper Johnson Ohio State 8
    1984 4 Gary Reasons Northwest Louisiana 7
    1983 8 Andy Headen Clemson 6
    2011 6 Jacquian Williams South Florida 5
    1981 9 Byron Hunt Southern Methodist 5
    2000 4 Brandon Short Penn State 4
    1992 7 Corey Widmer Montana State 4
    1997 3 Ryan Phillips Idaho 3
    1993 3 Marcus Buckley Texas A&M 3
    2004 4 Reggie Torbor Auburn 3
    2008 5 Jonathan Goff Vanderbilt 3
    2002 5 Nick Greisen Wisconsin 3
    2010 6 Adrian Tracy William & Mary 3
    2000 6 Dhani Jones Michigan 3
    1992 6 Corey Miller South Carolina 3
    2006 3 Gerris Wilkinson Georgia Tech 2
    2008 4 Bryan Kehl BYU 2
    2011 6 Greg Jones Michigan State 2
    2009 2 Clint Sintim Virginia 1
    1992 2 Kanavis McGhee Colorado 1
    2010 4 Phillip Dillard Nebraska 1
    2007 4 Zak DeOssie Brown 1
    1997 4 Pete Monty Wisconsin 1
    1995 4 Ben Talley Tennessee 1
    1998 4 Ricky Shaw Oklahoma State 1
    1992 5 Anthony Moss Florida State 1
    2002 6 Wesley Mallard Oregon 1
    1996 6 Scott Galyon Tennessee 1
    2002 7 Quincy Monk North Carolina 1
    1999 7 O.J. Childress Clemson 1


    Coach Year Playoff SAM MIKE INSIDE/WILL BLIND RUSH
    PARCELLS 1984 Yes BANKS CARSON REASONS TAYLOR
    PARCELLS 1985 Yes BANKS CARSON REASONS TAYLOR
    PARCELLS 1986 Yes BANKS CARSON REASONS TAYLOR
    PARCELLS 1987 No BANKS CARSON REASONS TAYLOR
    PARCELLS 1988 No BANKS CARSON REASONS TAYLOR
    PARCELLS 1989 Yes BANKS PEPPER REASONS TAYLOR
    PARCELLS 1990 Yes BANKS PEPPER DEOSSIE TAYLOR
    HANDLEY 1991 No BANKS PEPPER REASONS TAYLOR
    HANDLEY 1992 No BANKS PEPPER REASONS TAYLOR
    REEVES 1993 Yes MILLER BROOKS BAILEY TAYLOR
    REEVES 1994 No MILLER BROOKS BAILEY FOX
    REEVES 1995 No MILLER BROOKS CROEL HARRIS
    REEVES 1996 No MILLER WIDMER ARMSTEAD BRATZKE
    FASSELL 1997 Yes MILLER WIDMER ARMSTEAD BRATZKE
    FASSELL 1998 No BUCKLEY WIDMER ARMSTEAD BRATZKE
    FASSELL 1999 No PHILLIPS WIDMER ARMSTEAD JONES
    FASSELL 2000 Yes PHILLIPS BARROW ARMSTEAD JONES
    FASSELL 2001 No SHORT BARROW ARMSTEAD HOLMES
    FASSELL 2002 Yes SHORT BARROW JONES HOLMES
    FASSELL 2003 No SHORT BARROW JONES HOLMES
    COUGHLIN 2004 No EMMONS LEWIS GREEN OSI
    COUGHLIN 2005 Yes EMMONS PEIRCE GREISEN OSI
    COUGHLIN 2006 Yes EMMONS PEIRCE LAVAR OSI
    COUGHLIN 2007 Yes KIWI PEIRCE MITCHELL OSI
    COUGHLIN 2008 Yes BLACKBURN PEIRCE CLARK KIWI
    COUGHLIN 2009 No CLARK PEIRCE BOLEY OSI
    COUGHLIN 2010 No BULLOCK GOFF BOLEY OSI
    COUGHLIN 2011 Yes KIWI GOFF BOLEY OSI


    Apart from LT, Banks, Armstead and Pepper over the last 30 years and there has been a terrible waste of picks by all GMs especially in 2nd and 4th rounds and awful free agents apart from Brooks and Boley.


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    Re: Giants linebackers 30 year review...lets discuss

    I disagree. I feel like Michael Barrow and Antonio Pierce were some of the best free agent acquisitions we've made.
    Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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    • #3
      Re: Giants linebackers 30 year review...lets discuss

      [quote user="B&RWarrior"]I disagree. I feel like Michael Barrow and Antonio Pierce were some of the best free agent acquisitions we've made.[/quote]
      +1
      "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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      • #4
        Re: Giants linebackers 30 year review...lets discuss

        Just wait....between Greg Jones Jacquain Williams Spencer Paysinger and Mark Herzlich we may have 1 or more great linebackers

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        • #5
          Re: Giants linebackers 30 year review...lets discuss



          The Coughlin years have been very lean at LB by Giants standards.




          When fans on this site get all lathered up over guys like Sintim and Goff, you know it's been a loooooooong time since we've had a truly great one.

          No one remembers who came in second.

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          • #6
            Re: Giants linebackers 30 year review...lets discuss

            Williams and Herzlich have shown great promise so far. did you kno williams had 78 tackles last season as a 6th round rookie. wow.

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            • #7
              Re: Giants linebackers 30 year review...lets discuss

              The position is just not as important as it used to be. I wouldn't be surprised if we never have a LB group as good as the one we had in the 80's ever again.

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              • #8
                Re: Giants linebackers 30 year review...lets discuss



                My top 5




                Year Rnd Player\ College Impact
                1981 1 Lawrence Taylor North Carolina 10
                1984 1 Carl Banks Michigan State 9.5
                1993 8 Jessie Armstead Miami (FL) 9
                1986 2 Pepper Johnson Ohio State 8
                1984 4 Gary Reasons Northwest Louisiana 7


                LOVE ME SOME OLD SCHOOL LBS SON!




                we didnt draft Harry Carson??? whats up this that!!??




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                • #9
                  Re: Giants linebackers 30 year review...lets discuss

                  [quote user="TheEnigma"]The position is just not as important as it used to be. I wouldn't be surprised if we never have a LB group as good as the one we had in the 80's ever again.[/quote]

                  If we ever go back to a 3-4, we'll need impact players at LB again.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Giants linebackers 30 year review...lets discuss

                    [quote user="bleedinblue27"]

                    My top 5




                    Year Rnd Player\ College Impact
                    1981 1 Lawrence Taylor North Carolina 10
                    1984 1 Carl Banks Michigan State 9.5
                    1993 8 Jessie Armstead Miami (FL) 9
                    1986 2 Pepper Johnson Ohio State 8
                    1984 4 Gary Reasons Northwest Louisiana 7*
                    *

                    LOVE ME SOME OLD SCHOOL LBS SON!




                    we didnt draft Harry Carson??? whats up this that!!??




                    *

                    [/quote]

                    We did draft Carson , round 4 if memory serves correct. The OP stated it was a 30 year review thats why Harry wouldnt be on the list:

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                    • #11
                      Re: Giants linebackers 30 year review...lets discuss

                      [quote user="B&RWarrior"]I disagree. I feel like Michael Barrow and Antonio Pierce were some of the best free agent acquisitions we've made.[/quote]agreed. They just happened to be playing about a year longer then they really should have been. Even Mitchell did a good solid job for us for that 1 year.
                      Peace,
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                      • #12
                        Re: Giants linebackers 30 year review...lets discuss

                        [quote user="Duckdownman"][quote user="bleedinblue27"]

                        My top 5




                        Year Rnd Player\ College Impact
                        1981 1 Lawrence Taylor North Carolina 10
                        1984 1 Carl Banks Michigan State 9.5
                        1993 8 Jessie Armstead Miami (FL) 9
                        1986 2 Pepper Johnson Ohio State 8
                        1984 4 Gary Reasons Northwest Louisiana 7*
                        *

                        LOVE ME SOME OLD SCHOOL LBS SON!




                        we didnt draft Harry Carson??? whats up this that!!??




                        *

                        [/quote]

                        We did draft Carson , round 4 if memory serves correct. The OP stated it was a 30 year review thats why Harry wouldnt be on the list:[/quote]
                        It hurts to see any list of Giant LB's without including Harry, AND Brad Van Pelt, 2nd rnd 1973

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                        • #13
                          Re: Giants linebackers 30 year review...lets discuss

                          [quote user="zimonami"][quote user="Duckdownman"][quote user="bleedinblue27"]


                          My top 5




                          Year Rnd Player\ College Impact
                          1981 1 Lawrence Taylor North Carolina 10
                          1984 1 Carl Banks Michigan State 9.5
                          1993 8 Jessie Armstead Miami (FL) 9
                          1986 2 Pepper Johnson Ohio State 8
                          1984 4 Gary Reasons Northwest Louisiana 7


                          LOVE ME SOME OLD SCHOOL LBS SON!




                          we didnt draft Harry Carson??? whats up this that!!??




                          [/quote] We did draft Carson , round 4 if memory serves correct. The OP stated it was a 30 year review thats why Harry wouldnt be on the list:[/quote] It hurts to see any list of Giant LB's without including Harry, AND Brad Van Pelt, 2nd rnd 1973[/quote]I wore my #53 for the Super Bowl. I think hewent toSouth Carolina. Van Pelt was a safety in college at Michigan State.
                          No one remembers who came in second.

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                            Re: Giants linebackers 30 year review...lets discuss

                            [quote user="TheEnigma"]The position is just not as important as it used to be. I wouldn't be surprised if we never have a LB group as good as the one we had in the 80's ever again.[/quote]

                            It saddens me that we haven't held up the legacy of Giants LBs, but my oh my look at our DEs.
                            8-Time NFL Champions - 1927 1934 1938 1956 1986 1990 2007 2011

                            "You win close games because you're prepared to do it. It doesn't just come down to luck." -- Bill Parcells

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                              Re: Giants linebackers 30 year review...lets discuss

                              [quote user="NYG4lifeNYK"][quote user="B&RWarrior"]I disagree. I feel like Michael Barrow and Antonio Pierce were some of the best free agent acquisitions we've made.[/quote]
                              +1
                              [/quote]
                              +2. Not sexy, but very solid pick-ups. And I believe that Barrow came from the 'skins like Pierce did.

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