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    OSI UMENYIORA THINKS IT'S POSSIBLE GIANTS WILL TRADE HIM, DE SAYS HE'S LOOKING FOR A LONG TERM EXTENSION

    "Osi Umenyiora thinks
    there's a "chance" he could finally be an ex-Giant sometime in the next few
    days.



    With absolutely no movement or significant talks on his long-desired contract
    extension, the oft-unhappy defensive end is bracing for at least the possibility
    that he'll be traded sometime in the next few days. There was even a report that
    the Giants, who once wanted a first-round draft pick in return for Umenyiora,
    now are willing to accept only a third-round pick.




    Two NFL sources disputed that report, and indicated there's no reason to
    believe a trade is "imminent." Umenyiora seemed to agree, but in one of several
    radio interviews he did on Wednesday, he said "You really never know what's
    going to happen here in the next couple of days."




    "There's a chance (of a trade)," Umenyiora said on SiriusXM NFL Radio's The
    Opening Drive. "I would've liked to start and finish my career with the same
    team, but it's a business. The Giants have to do what's best for them and
    obviously I have to do what's best for myself at this point.




    "I feel like whatever happens over this weekend happens."




    The only reason a trade is even possible is that Umenyiora is entering the
    final year of his contract and he made it clear he's still looking for a very
    lucrative, long-term extension. In fact, during an interview on WFAN he
    seemingly set the bar at four years and $40 million or so.




    Umenyiora pointedly mentioned two recent contracts for defensive ends: The
    four-year, $36 million contract signed by 31-year-old Colts defensive end Robert
    Mathis
    ("who I feel like I'm just as good as," Umenyiora said) and the
    four-year, $48 million extension signed by the Eagles' Trent Cole.




    Umenyiora had 12-1/2 sacks in 13 games for the Giants last season, including
    the playoffs. Cole had 11 sacks in 14 games. Mathis had 9-1/2 sacks in 16
    games.




    Asked by Craig Carton on WFAN's
    Boomer & Carton show if he'd be willing to sign a short-term extension with
    the Giants — the example he gave was two years, $8 million — Umenyiora pointed
    to what Cole and Mathis got and said "I don't know how I'm supposed to. I don't
    know how I can."




    The most likely resolution to the ongoing Umenyiora saga is that he'll end up
    playing out the final year of the seven-year, $41 million contract extension he
    signed in 2005 (though on WFAN, Umenyiora disputed that number as
    "over-inflated"). He is scheduled to make $3.975 million in salary in 2012 and
    will be a free agent next March."

    Umenyiora tried to force the Giants' hand last summer when he threw a fit and
    staged a one-day holdout, followed by a few days in which he refused to
    practice. He did get the Giants agree to let his agent, Tony Agnone, shop for a
    trade and, according to one source there was at least one team willing to part
    with a second-round pick. But Giants GM Jerry Reese refused
    to part with Umenyiora for anything less than a first-rounder so no deal was
    struck.



    Umenyiora, unwilling to be hit with the maximum $30,000 per day he could be
    fined for holding out while under contract, reported back to work though he soon
    opted to have knee surgery that delayed the start of his year.




    It all worked out in the end, of course, and Umenyiora had a monster season.
    He also feels like he still has a few more good years like that left in his tank
    — maybe a few that are even better.




    "I also like I still have maybe like two years left of just straight being an
    every-down defensive end before I just turn into a strictly pass rusher,"
    Umenyiora told SiriusXM NFL Radio. "I want to see where I'm at if I could just
    play a full season. When I see Jared Allen doing
    whatever he does (he had 22 sacks last season, just a half-sack short of tying
    Michael Strahan's
    single-season record) and all these other guys who play the whole (season)
    putting up these numbers, I want to see what I'm able to do.




    "I want to break Strahan's record," Umenyiora added. "That's what I really
    want to do. I love Strahan, but I want to do that. I want to go for
    that."

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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    Re: OSI UMENYIORA THINKS IT'S POSSIBLE GIANTS WILL TRADE HIM, DE SAYS HE'S LOOKING FOR A LONG TERM EXTENSION



    If we only get a 3rd for Osi, I would be furious. 12.5 sacks in 13 games last year... He is only 30. Strahan retired at 36 and was still on top of his game. Osi is the best strip sacker in the league. If the Pats wont give up one of their firsts, or a team like the Jags give up their early 2nd, no thank you. I want me some Osi to stay!




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    • #3
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      [quote user="TuckYou"]


      If we only get a 3rd for Osi, I would be furious. 12.5 sacks in 13 games last year... He is only 30. Strahan retired at 36 and was still on top of his game. Osi is the best strip sacker in the league. If the Pats wont give up one of their firsts, or a team like the Jags give up their early 2nd, no thank you. I want me some Osi to stay!







      [/quote]




      You guys don't understand. He is going to make the Giants and allof usfans miserable this coming season. He knows if he plays out his deal, he'll be 31 and won't get a long term deal from anyone.




      Trade him tomorrow and free up cap space.




      Morehead has spoken.







      And Osi is injury prone and the rest of the league knows it. He's no Strahan.

      Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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      • #4
        Re: OSI UMENYIORA THINKS IT'S POSSIBLE GIANTS WILL TRADE HIM, DE SAYS HE'S LOOKING FOR A LONG TERM EXTENSION



        oh some team did offer a 2nd last year ... interesting




        well there's no way any team could turn down a 1st for a 30+ year old player




        we would take the 2nd now?




        it just scares me ... it's easy to say, well we got Tuck and JPP and Kiwi and a couple of other unproven guys and then we can draft a DE somewhere and we'll be fine




        well, that's all well and good assuming everyone stays healthy, which is a huge assumption

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        • #5
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          [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="TuckYou"]


          If we only get a 3rd for Osi, I would be furious. 12.5 sacks in 13 games last year...* He is only 30. Strahan retired at 36 and was still on top of his game. Osi is the best strip sacker in the league. If the Pats wont give up one of their firsts, or a team like the Jags give up their early 2nd, no thank you. I want me some Osi to stay!




          *




          [/quote]




          You guys don't understand.* He is going to make the Giants and all*of us*fans miserable this coming season.* He knows if he plays out his deal, he'll be 31 and won't get a long term deal from anyone.




          Trade him tomorrow and free up cap space.




          Morehead has spoken.




          *




          And Osi is injury prone and the rest of the league knows it.* He's no Strahan.

          [/quote]

          Or just keep him because for what he can do on the field they will have him cheap this year. Let him play his games. He did last year and they won the Super Bowl. If anything he might really turn it on this year to get a new deal.

          Maybe they get a 3rd round comp for him next year anyway?

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          • #6
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            [quote user="buddy33"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="TuckYou"]


            If we only get a 3rd for Osi, I would be furious. 12.5 sacks in 13 games last year... He is only 30. Strahan retired at 36 and was still on top of his game. Osi is the best strip sacker in the league. If the Pats wont give up one of their firsts, or a team like the Jags give up their early 2nd, no thank you. I want me some Osi to stay!







            [/quote]




            You guys don't understand. He is going to make the Giants and allof usfans miserable this coming season. He knows if he plays out his deal, he'll be 31 and won't get a long term deal from anyone.




            Trade him tomorrow and free up cap space.




            Morehead has spoken.







            And Osi is injury prone and the rest of the league knows it. He's no Strahan.




            [/quote] Or just keep him because for what he can do on the field they will have him cheap this year. Let him play his games. He did last year and they won the Super Bowl. If anything he might really turn it on this year to get a new deal. Maybe they get a 3rd round comp for him next year anyway?[/quote]




            I promise you, he's prepared to whine like a schoolgirl all season.

            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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            • #7
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              [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="buddy33"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="TuckYou"]


              If we only get a 3rd for Osi, I would be furious. 12.5 sacks in 13 games last year... He is only 30. Strahan retired at 36 and was still on top of his game. Osi is the best strip sacker in the league. If the Pats wont give up one of their firsts, or a team like the Jags give up their early 2nd, no thank you. I want me some Osi to stay!







              [/quote]




              You guys don't understand. He is going to make the Giants and allof usfans miserable this coming season. He knows if he plays out his deal, he'll be 31 and won't get a long term deal from anyone.




              Trade him tomorrow and free up cap space.




              Morehead has spoken.







              And Osi is injury prone and the rest of the league knows it. He's no Strahan.




              [/quote] Or just keep him because for what he can do on the field they will have him cheap this year. Let him play his games. He did last year and they won the Super Bowl. If anything he might really turn it on this year to get a new deal. Maybe they get a 3rd round comp for him next year anyway?[/quote]




              I promise you, he's prepared to whine like a schoolgirl all season.

              [/quote]

              It's not a secret I believe in honoring contracts. So, what if Reese says we're holding you to your contract this season. So Osi has two options, assuming Reese won't trade him.

              1. He can hold out and pay a daily fine which was $30,000.00 a day before the new CBA
              2. He can play:
              a) his heart out and earn a contract here or somewhere else
              b) not so much and turn any potential suitors off

              Am I missing anything?

              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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              • #8
                Re: OSI UMENYIORA THINKS IT'S POSSIBLE GIANTS WILL TRADE HIM, DE SAYS HE'S LOOKING FOR A LONG TERM EXTENSION

                [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="buddy33"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="TuckYou"]


                If we only get a 3rd for Osi, I would be furious. 12.5 sacks in 13 games last year... He is only 30. Strahan retired at 36 and was still on top of his game. Osi is the best strip sacker in the league. If the Pats wont give up one of their firsts, or a team like the Jags give up their early 2nd, no thank you. I want me some Osi to stay!







                [/quote]




                You guys don't understand. He is going to make the Giants and allof usfans miserable this coming season. He knows if he plays out his deal, he'll be 31 and won't get a long term deal from anyone.




                Trade him tomorrow and free up cap space.




                Morehead has spoken.







                And Osi is injury prone and the rest of the league knows it. He's no Strahan.




                [/quote] Or just keep him because for what he can do on the field they will have him cheap this year. Let him play his games. He did last year and they won the Super Bowl. If anything he might really turn it on this year to get a new deal. Maybe they get a 3rd round comp for him next year anyway?[/quote]




                I promise you, he's prepared to whine like a schoolgirl all season.

                [/quote]

                Not exactly a crystal ball statement [] I had hoped he'd learned form last year.
                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                • #9
                  Re: OSI UMENYIORA THINKS IT'S POSSIBLE GIANTS WILL TRADE HIM, DE SAYS HE'S LOOKING FOR A LONG TERM EXTENSION

                  [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="TuckYou"]


                  If we only get a 3rd for Osi, I would be furious. 12.5 sacks in 13 games last year...* He is only 30. Strahan retired at 36 and was still on top of his game. Osi is the best strip sacker in the league. If the Pats wont give up one of their firsts, or a team like the Jags give up their early 2nd, no thank you. I want me some Osi to stay!




                  *




                  [/quote]




                  You guys don't understand.* He is going to make the Giants and all*of us*fans miserable this coming season.* He knows if he plays out his deal, he'll be 31 and won't get a long term deal from anyone.




                  Trade him tomorrow and free up cap space.




                  Morehead has spoken.




                  *




                  And Osi is injury prone and the rest of the league knows it.* He's no Strahan.

                  [/quote]

                  I agree with you. If they can get a 3rd for him its as good as you can expect given the circumstances. His knees are not going to get better over the last few years of his career and he has made his living based on his speed. Like the old adage says get rid of him 1 season too early rather than1 season too late.

                  The "evil" YA has spoken.

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                  • #10
                    Re: OSI UMENYIORA THINKS IT'S POSSIBLE GIANTS WILL TRADE HIM, DE SAYS HE'S LOOKING FOR A LONG TERM EXTENSION

                    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="buddy33"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="TuckYou"]


                    If we only get a 3rd for Osi, I would be furious. 12.5 sacks in 13 games last year... He is only 30. Strahan retired at 36 and was still on top of his game. Osi is the best strip sacker in the league. If the Pats wont give up one of their firsts, or a team like the Jags give up their early 2nd, no thank you. I want me some Osi to stay!







                    [/quote]




                    You guys don't understand. He is going to make the Giants and allof usfans miserable this coming season. He knows if he plays out his deal, he'll be 31 and won't get a long term deal from anyone.




                    Trade him tomorrow and free up cap space.




                    Morehead has spoken.







                    And Osi is injury prone and the rest of the league knows it. He's no Strahan.




                    [/quote] Or just keep him because for what he can do on the field they will have him cheap this year. Let him play his games. He did last year and they won the Super Bowl. If anything he might really turn it on this year to get a new deal. Maybe they get a 3rd round comp for him next year anyway?[/quote]




                    I promise you, he's prepared to whine like a schoolgirl all season.




                    [/quote]




                    Just like last year? Cool, Ill take it then. And after this season his cntract is up. If he wants a big contract he better show up this season. If not, he hurts himself. We arent just going to give him away for a 3rd. He has 1st round talent. Yeah he is 30, not 36! He is a game changing pass rusher, just ask Aaron Rodgers.




                    If we cant get a 1st rounder, or early 2nd, then no way. We need to get a pass rushing DE with the pick that we get for him to replace him. If not, keep him for the final year and make him suffer if thats what he wants. Same year, same story. Turned out great last year.

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                    • #11
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                      [quote user="TuckYou"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="buddy33"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="TuckYou"]


                      If we only get a 3rd for Osi, I would be furious. 12.5 sacks in 13 games last year... He is only 30. Strahan retired at 36 and was still on top of his game. Osi is the best strip sacker in the league. If the Pats wont give up one of their firsts, or a team like the Jags give up their early 2nd, no thank you. I want me some Osi to stay!







                      [/quote]




                      You guys don't understand. He is going to make the Giants and allof usfans miserable this coming season. He knows if he plays out his deal, he'll be 31 and won't get a long term deal from anyone.




                      Trade him tomorrow and free up cap space.




                      Morehead has spoken.







                      And Osi is injury prone and the rest of the league knows it. He's no Strahan.




                      [/quote] Or just keep him because for what he can do on the field they will have him cheap this year. Let him play his games. He did last year and they won the Super Bowl. If anything he might really turn it on this year to get a new deal. Maybe they get a 3rd round comp for him next year anyway?[/quote]




                      I promise you, he's prepared to whine like a schoolgirl all season.




                      [/quote]




                      Just like last year? Cool, Ill take it then. And after this season his cntract is up. If he wants a big contract he better show up this season. If not, he hurts himself. We arent just going to give him away for a 3rd. He has 1st round talent. Yeah he is 30, not 36! He is a game changing pass rusher, just ask Aaron Rodgers.




                      If we cant get a 1st rounder, or early 2nd, then no way. We need to get a pass rushing DE with the pick that we get for him to replace him. If not, keep him for the final year and make him suffer if thats what he wants. Same year, same story. Turned out great last year.

                      [/quote]

                      That's very optimistic of you. He wasn't a first round talent last year when he was allowed to test those waters. He's a year older and a malcontent. Those things all factor into a player's worth.
                      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                      • #12
                        Re: OSI UMENYIORA THINKS IT'S POSSIBLE GIANTS WILL TRADE HIM, DE SAYS HE'S LOOKING FOR A LONG TERM EXTENSION

                        [quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="TuckYou"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="buddy33"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="TuckYou"]


                        If we only get a 3rd for Osi, I would be furious. 12.5 sacks in 13 games last year... He is only 30. Strahan retired at 36 and was still on top of his game. Osi is the best strip sacker in the league. If the Pats wont give up one of their firsts, or a team like the Jags give up their early 2nd, no thank you. I want me some Osi to stay!







                        [/quote]




                        You guys don't understand. He is going to make the Giants and allof usfans miserable this coming season. He knows if he plays out his deal, he'll be 31 and won't get a long term deal from anyone.




                        Trade him tomorrow and free up cap space.




                        Morehead has spoken.







                        And Osi is injury prone and the rest of the league knows it. He's no Strahan.




                        [/quote] Or just keep him because for what he can do on the field they will have him cheap this year. Let him play his games. He did last year and they won the Super Bowl. If anything he might really turn it on this year to get a new deal. Maybe they get a 3rd round comp for him next year anyway?[/quote]




                        I promise you, he's prepared to whine like a schoolgirl all season.




                        [/quote]




                        Just like last year? Cool, Ill take it then. And after this season his cntract is up. If he wants a big contract he better show up this season. If not, he hurts himself. We arent just going to give him away for a 3rd. He has 1st round talent. Yeah he is 30, not 36! He is a game changing pass rusher, just ask Aaron Rodgers.




                        If we cant get a 1st rounder, or early 2nd, then no way. We need to get a pass rushing DE with the pick that we get for him to replace him. If not, keep him for the final year and make him suffer if thats what he wants. Same year, same story. Turned out great last year.

                        [/quote]

                        That's very optimistic of you. He wasn't a first round talent last year when he was allowed to test those waters. He's a year older and a malcontent. Those things all factor into a player's worth.
                        [/quote]

                        I think TuckYou meant in terms of Osi's actual on-field talent, not his trade value. He's still a very good player and is a bargain at just under $4 Million. The idea of Osi whining all season worries me, but doesn't it seem more likely he will just whine during the off-season/preseason then work his tail off on the field to get a new contract elsewhere? Once the season starts he has nothing to gain by doing anything other than getting to the QB.

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                        • #13
                          Re: OSI UMENYIORA THINKS IT'S POSSIBLE GIANTS WILL TRADE HIM, DE SAYS HE'S LOOKING FOR A LONG TERM EXTENSION

                          Sitting only hurts his pocket both this year and in the future. What team is going to pay him big bucks for sitting on his team?

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                          • #14
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                            [quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="buddy33"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="TuckYou"]


                            If we only get a 3rd for Osi, I would be furious. 12.5 sacks in 13 games last year... He is only 30. Strahan retired at 36 and was still on top of his game. Osi is the best strip sacker in the league. If the Pats wont give up one of their firsts, or a team like the Jags give up their early 2nd, no thank you. I want me some Osi to stay!







                            [/quote]




                            You guys don't understand. He is going to make the Giants and allof usfans miserable this coming season. He knows if he plays out his deal, he'll be 31 and won't get a long term deal from anyone.




                            Trade him tomorrow and free up cap space.




                            Morehead has spoken.







                            And Osi is injury prone and the rest of the league knows it. He's no Strahan.




                            [/quote] Or just keep him because for what he can do on the field they will have him cheap this year. Let him play his games. He did last year and they won the Super Bowl. If anything he might really turn it on this year to get a new deal. Maybe they get a 3rd round comp for him next year anyway?[/quote]




                            I promise you, he's prepared to whine like a schoolgirl all season.




                            [/quote]

                            It's not a secret I believe in honoring contracts. So, what if Reese says we're holding you to your contract this season. So Osi has two options, assuming Reese won't trade him.

                            1. He can hold out and pay a daily fine which was $30,000.00 a day before the new CBA
                            2. He can play:
                            a) his heart out and earn a contract here or somewhere else
                            b) not so much and turn any potential suitors off

                            Am I missing anything?

                            [/quote]




                            I doubt he wants to wait until next year for his extension. He probably thinks his best chance is right now, coming off the SB win and being one year younger than next year. If he plays out this year, he probably figures he could get hurt or he would just be 31 and still injury prone and not get a contract that he thinks he deserves or at least could get this season.




                            Thats why he's probably going to hold his breath and stomp his feet until he gets a new deal or gets traded.

                            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                            • #15
                              Re: OSI UMENYIORA THINKS IT'S POSSIBLE GIANTS WILL TRADE HIM, DE SAYS HE'S LOOKING FOR A LONG TERM EXTENSION

                              [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="buddy33"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="TuckYou"]


                              If we only get a 3rd for Osi, I would be furious. 12.5 sacks in 13 games last year... He is only 30. Strahan retired at 36 and was still on top of his game. Osi is the best strip sacker in the league. If the Pats wont give up one of their firsts, or a team like the Jags give up their early 2nd, no thank you. I want me some Osi to stay!







                              [/quote]




                              You guys don't understand. He is going to make the Giants and allof usfans miserable this coming season. He knows if he plays out his deal, he'll be 31 and won't get a long term deal from anyone.




                              Trade him tomorrow and free up cap space.




                              Morehead has spoken.







                              And Osi is injury prone and the rest of the league knows it. He's no Strahan.




                              [/quote] Or just keep him because for what he can do on the field they will have him cheap this year. Let him play his games. He did last year and they won the Super Bowl. If anything he might really turn it on this year to get a new deal. Maybe they get a 3rd round comp for him next year anyway?[/quote]




                              I promise you, he's prepared to whine like a schoolgirl all season.




                              [/quote]

                              It's not a secret I believe in honoring contracts. So, what if Reese says we're holding you to your contract this season. So Osi has two options, assuming Reese won't trade him.

                              1. He can hold out and pay a daily fine which was $30,000.00 a day before the new CBA
                              2. He can play:
                              a) his heart out and earn a contract here or somewhere else
                              b) not so much and turn any potential suitors off

                              Am I missing anything?

                              [/quote]




                              I doubt he wants to wait until next year for his extension. He probably thinks his best chance is right now, coming off the SB win and being one year younger than next year. If he plays out this year, he probably figures he could get hurt or he would just be 31 and still injury prone and not get a contract that he thinks he deserves or at least could get this season.




                              Thats why he's probably going to hold his breath and stomp his feet until he gets a new deal or gets traded.




                              [/quote] I quess I'm missing something herehe has no leverage other than to hold hisbreath and stomp his feet....holding out would be stupid....on top of the fines he could lose an accrued year for this season...putting off his FA status for next !?....So in my mind he'll show up for work what he doesafter that time will tell he coud fake an injury.... correct me if I'm wrong







                              edit from a artical:




                              There's also the 30-day rule, which prevents players from accruing a year toward free agency if they don't show to camp at least 30 days before the regular season




                              only thestupid wouldn't show up for work

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