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  • Why no faith in Scott or Ware?

    I thought the FO was very high on Scott and Ware has proven to be an effective 3rd down back, and pass catcher and blocker.

    I thought we'd go guard or tackle. Some good ones were left on the board

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    Re: Why no faith in Scott or Ware?

    Who do they have at RB? They lost Jacobs, Bradshaw has bad feet, Brown will miss some time due to suspension and may be cut, I don't see Ware a s a full time RB, and Scott has tools but is unproven.

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    • #3
      Re: Why no faith in Scott or Ware?

      Nobody thought those guys were any good. Do you remember them doing anything good? They go down from the 1st defender touching them and they don't have much speed.

      Do they have 4.3 speed like David Wilson? No. Wilson looks like beast with speed and power.

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      • #4
        Re: Why no faith in Scott or Ware?

        [quote user="buddy33"]Who do they have at RB? They lost Jacobs, Bradshaw has bad feet, Brown will miss some time due to suspension and may be cut, I don't see Ware a s a full time RB, and Scott has tools but is unproven.[/quote]

        But to spend a 1st round pick on a consensus back up RB doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

        The RB failure last year was blamed primarily on the O-line, and there was a chance to draft improvement at this pick and they didn't do it.

        I'm not saying Wilson isn't good, I just don't understand the pick for the Giants.

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        • #5
          Re: Why no faith in Scott or Ware?

          year after year this FO takes who they think is the best available, and we continue to ask why they do it (including me sometimes).


          i do finally get it.


          they want the best football players on the team. period.


          i have no doubt that they think they got the best football player left on the board.
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          • #6
            Re: Why no faith in Scott or Ware?

            [quote user="VBGiantsFan"]
            But to spend a 1st round pick on a consensus back up RB doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

            The RB failure last year was blamed primarily on the O-line, and there was a chance to draft improvement at this pick and they didn't do it.

            I'm not saying Wilson isn't good, I just don't understand the pick for the Giants.[/quote]

            When you call a guy "a consensus backup" who isnt 1, people stop reading and move on. Like me.


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            • #7
              Re: Why no faith in Scott or Ware?

              i think they might be thinking of Bradshaws replacement of the future, not necessarily Scott.

              I love AB, but his feet are really bad

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              • #8
                Re: Why no faith in Scott or Ware?

                [quote user="bflo23"]Nobody thought those guys were any good. Do you remember them doing anything good? They go down from the 1st defender touching them and they don't have much speed.

                Do they have 4.3 speed like David Wilson? No. Wilson looks like beast with speed and power.
                [/quote]

                Scott does have that type of speed.

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                • #9
                  Re: Why no faith in Scott or Ware?

                  [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="VBGiantsFan"]
                  But to spend a 1st round pick on a consensus back up RB doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

                  The RB failure last year was blamed primarily on the O-line, and there was a chance to draft improvement at this pick and they didn't do it.

                  I'm not saying Wilson isn't good, I just don't understand the pick for the Giants.[/quote]

                  When you call a guy "a consensus backup" who isnt 1, people stop reading and move on. Like me.


                  [/quote]

                  You're right, he was drafted to take over the starter spot from bradshaw this year. My mistake. Feel free to not respond to me in the future.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Why no faith in Scott or Ware?

                    [quote user="buddy33"][quote user="bflo23"]Nobody thought those guys were any good. Do you remember them doing anything good? They go down from the 1st defender touching them and they don't have much speed.

                    Do they have 4.3 speed like David Wilson? No. Wilson looks like beast with speed and power.
                    [/quote]

                    Scott does have that type of speed.[/quote]

                    Scott: 4.34 combine. Wilson: 4.49. Scott's faster.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Why no faith in Scott or Ware?

                      The giants have used a two headed and at times
                      a three headed backfield for years now- so to call him a backup is unfair. AB is a very good running back but no one would argue he has had trouble staying healthy. So not only could he get 10-12 carries and receptions out of backfield if AB is healthy all year (which hasn't happened) he could also grab much more if injuries occur - this is once he picks up playbook and becomes a better pass blocker.

                      Why no trust in Scott? that tends to be the case with a seventh rounder who lost his starting spot in college. AB was a 7th rounder too but he is the exception not the rule. Scott impressed fans with speed the giants have never said they are ready to give him anything- and quite frankly it seems odd for anyone to trist a 7 rounder who saw almost no
                      Action as a rookie-Tim biakabatula was fast too. Wilson just adds to
                      An already potent offense and unlike my man jacobs he can and will have to open up holes for himself

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                      • #12
                        Re: Why no faith in Scott or Ware?

                        [quote user="PIERCEnumber58rules"][quote user="buddy33"][quote user="bflo23"]Nobody thought those guys were any good. Do you remember them doing anything good? They go down from the 1st defender touching them and they don't have much speed.

                        Do they have 4.3 speed like David Wilson? No. Wilson looks like beast with speed and power.
                        [/quote]

                        Scott does have that type of speed.[/quote]

                        Scott: 4.34 combine. Wilson: 4.49. Scott's faster.[/quote]

                        OK now find some film of Scott breaking tackles and making people miss. Good luck with that.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Why no faith in Scott or Ware?

                          [quote user="VBGiantsFan"][quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="VBGiantsFan"]
                          But to spend a 1st round pick on a consensus back up RB doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

                          The RB failure last year was blamed primarily on the O-line, and there was a chance to draft improvement at this pick and they didn't do it.

                          I'm not saying Wilson isn't good, I just don't understand the pick for the Giants.[/quote]

                          When you call a guy "a consensus backup" who isnt 1, people stop reading and move on. Like me.


                          [/quote]

                          You're right, he was drafted to take over the starter spot from bradshaw this year. My mistake. Feel free to not respond to me in the future.[/quote]

                          If you haven't noticed Bradshaw can't make it through a season. I see your another person enamored with the word "starter".

                          Did you think Prince was gonna start last season? And if he only played nickel it would have been a wasted 1st round pick?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Why no faith in Scott or Ware?



                            [quote user="DVision"][quote user="PIERCEnumber58rules"][quote user="buddy33"][quote user="bflo23"]Nobody thought those guys were any good. Do you remember them doing anything good? They go down from the 1st defender touching them and they don't have much speed.

                            Do they have 4.3 speed like David Wilson? No. Wilson looks like beast with speed and power.
                            [/quote] Scott does have that type of speed.[/quote] Scott: 4.34 combine. Wilson: 4.49. Scott's faster.[/quote] OK now find some film of Scott breaking tackles and making people miss. Good luck with that.[/quote]




                            This!




                            I agree 100%.When did Scott in college ever log the numbers in one season that Wilson did last yearin all areas of the game (i.e. kick returns, receiving, rushing) at a school like VA Tech? Answer=never.

                            Over 7000 posts, advanced member, joined March 2002. 1st post (as anonymous) was the day after Super Bowl 35

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                            • #15
                              Re: Why no faith in Scott or Ware?

                              [quote user="PIERCEnumber58rules"][quote user="buddy33"][quote user="bflo23"]Nobody thought those guys were any good. Do you remember them doing anything good? They go down from the 1st defender touching them and they don't have much speed.

                              Do they have 4.3 speed like David Wilson? No. Wilson looks like beast with speed and power.
                              [/quote]

                              Scott does have that type of speed.[/quote]

                              Scott: 4.34 combine. Wilson: 4.49. Scott's faster.[/quote]

                              Scott's faster that one specific day.... Wilson was clocked at as fast as 4.29 in 2009 and 2010.

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