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  • Can someone explain to me how David Wilson is a reach??

    When Trent Richardson is chosen #3 in the first round and the Giants pick Wilson with pick #32? Considering the following:

    1. Richardson has a higher grade than Wilson but is it THAT much higher??
    2. Most NFL teams have a two back system??

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    • David Wilson/RB/NY Giants/Pick No. 32 -- Wilson is an explosive ballcarrier who picks up big chunks of yardage from the line of scrimmage. He's not a physical ball carrier and has an undeveloped game. The Giants selected him at least a half round earlier than his talents warranted.

  • #2
    Re: Can someone explain to me how David Wilson is a reach??

    He is a reach because his name is not Martin, Fleener, or Hill.

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    • #3
      Re: Can someone explain to me how David Wilson is a reach??

      There were a lot of mocks I read previously before the draft mocking David Wilson to the Giants...Even WalterFootball had him going to the Giants a couple of weeks ago.

      The only reason people are saying it was a reach was because of some of the names that dropped to 32...like Glenn, Upshaw, Martin, Hill, Fleener etc... Wilson was and is a 1st round talent and not a reach at all imo. So many people just didn't see the Giants taking a RB and it threw them through a loop.
      "You killed my family, and I don't like that kind of thing."

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      • #4
        Re: Can someone explain to me how David Wilson is a reach??

        It's just one person's opinion. You should never take anyone's mock as gospel.

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        • #5
          Re: Can someone explain to me how David Wilson is a reach??



          I'm not saying Wilson won't perform well for us, but I feel like there were other players that have a way higher upside that we passed up on. AKA Courtney Upshaw. He will be a star in this league.




          Could of got a player like Turbin in the 3rd or Polk LATE. Bradshaw is still our starter. Ware most likely is our backup incase AB gets injured again because Coughlin trusts him right now, unlike Wilson who has a fumbling issue. Until that is resolved, he wont see more then Scott did last year.

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          • #6
            Re: Can someone explain to me how David Wilson is a reach??

            You want to know the answer? Well, anyone on this board who says they know for sure is talking out of their butt.

            The only way we would know for a fact if the Giants reached for Wilson would be if all 32 NFL teams released their "big board" for the public to see.

            If every other team had Wilson ranked around #40 to #60, that would mean the Giants reached. If he was ranked lower than #32, it would be considered a value pick.

            Since teams don't release their big boards for obvious reasons, we are only left to what public knowledge we can gather.

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            • #7
              Re: Can someone explain to me how David Wilson is a reach??

              Reach = they picked someone I didn't.

              Means nothing.
              I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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              • #8
                Re: Can someone explain to me how David Wilson is a reach??

                These analyst are ****ing idiots. Reese states they didn't want Martin yet these idiots say "the giants panicked" when Martin was taken. Were these analyst in the war room? If these guys were so good they'd be working for a nfl team.

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                • #9
                  Re: Can someone explain to me how David Wilson is a reach??



                  It was only a reach if Reese didn't have him highest on his board. He said he did. He said he had him slightly in front of Martin, which you can agree or disagree. If this kid truely was Reese's top player left, and he filled our need, it should be a great pick. If he only took him because Martin got snagged and we NEED a RB, then it was a reach.




                  We probably will never know for sure.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Can someone explain to me how David Wilson is a reach??

                    [quote user="Snappinnecks"]When Trent Richardson is chosen #3 in the first round and the Giants pick Wilson with pick #32? Considering the following:

                    1. Richardson has a higher grade than Wilson but is it THAT much higher??
                    2. Most NFL teams have a two back system??

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                    • David Wilson/RB/NY Giants/Pick No. 32 -- Wilson is an explosive ballcarrier who picks up big chunks of yardage from the line of scrimmage. He's not a physical ball carrier and has an undeveloped game. The Giants selected him at least a half round earlier than his talents warranted.
                    [/quote]

                    You're the editor for a web magazine/blog. Your business model revolves around advertising. Advertising dollars revolve around page views. Page views revolve around content that is buzz worthy.

                    It's Monday morning and the draft is long over. You can have someone write up another story about how the Giants made a good selection in Wilson, or you can be one of the first to go against the grain, giving readers a different opinion than everyone else. Obviously you'll get traffic from angry fans who will take your words so seriously.


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                    • #11
                      Re: Can someone explain to me how David Wilson is a reach??

                      [quote user="Kruunch"]Reach = they picked someone I didn't.

                      Means nothing.[/quote]

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                      • #12
                        Re: Can someone explain to me how David Wilson is a reach??

                        [quote user="Snappinnecks"]When Trent Richardson is chosen #3 in the first round and the Giants pick Wilson with pick #32? Considering the following:

                        1. Richardson has a higher grade than Wilson but is it THAT much higher??
                        2. Most NFL teams have a two back system??

                        Link

                        • David Wilson/RB/NY Giants/Pick No. 32 -- Wilson is an explosive ballcarrier who picks up big chunks of yardage from the line of scrimmage. He's not a physical ball carrier and has an undeveloped game. The Giants selected him at least a half round earlier than his talents warranted.
                        [/quote]Who's opinion on talent is more important to you, some media guy who is one rung above Wallmart greeter or Jerry Reese's? Not sure why people care a lick about any of these opinions.
                        No one remembers who came in second.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Can someone explain to me how David Wilson is a reach??

                          [quote user="Snappinnecks"]When Trent Richardson is chosen #3 in the first round and the Giants pick Wilson with pick #32? Considering the following:

                          1. Richardson has a higher grade than Wilson but is it THAT much higher??
                          2. Most NFL teams have a two back system??

                          Link

                          • David Wilson/RB/NY Giants/Pick No. 32 -- Wilson is an explosive ballcarrier who picks up big chunks of yardage from the line of scrimmage. He's not a physical ball carrier and has an undeveloped game. The Giants selected him at least a half round earlier than his talents warranted.
                          [/quote]

                          IMO its not so much picking Wilson is a reach, but rather picking any RB that is not an absolute game-changer in the first round is a reach. Considering:

                          1) RB is probably the position that has the highest injury risk

                          2) RB has the shortest average career

                          3) OLs make RBs 90% of the time unless you have a generational talent like Barry Sanders or AP

                          4) Drafting OL gives you double duty- protect QB better AND paves way for RB.

                          5) RB is devalued in today's game- the Colts, Saints, Pack, and Giants of recent superbowl memory did not have dominant runners. Passing is simply the more efficient way of gaining yardage. They simply set up the run with dominant air games.

                          6) We are moving towards the late 2000s Colts way of playing football (i.e. get a lead early with explosive plays, and then murder opposing QBs with edge rushers when they try to throw) instead of the current 49er formula that requires power running to kill clock. We don't need a strong running game, just one that forces opponents to be honest and not drop everyone into coverage. This can be done with a good O-line and a 4th round RB.

                          I don't think anyone here will argue that Wilson is not an impressive running back, or that he won't make an impact. Yet, why use our top pick to select a position that not only has a high chance of injury, but also is just systematically less useful in modern football and our team? High risk, moderate reward.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Can someone explain to me how David Wilson is a reach??

                            [quote user="TuckYou"]

                            I'm not saying Wilson won't perform well for us, but I feel like there were other players that have a way higher upside that we passed up on. AKA Courtney Upshaw. He will be a star in this league.




                            Could of got a player like Turbin in the 3rd or Polk LATE. Bradshaw is still our starter. Ware most likely is our backup incase AB gets injured again because Coughlin trusts him right now, unlike Wilson who has a fumbling issue. Until that is resolved, he wont see more then Scott did last year.

                            [/quote]

                            you also complained about JPP....aand every one of our other 1st round picks as well. David Wilson is going to be a top 10 rb in the NFL 2 years from now. The kid is special.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Can someone explain to me how David Wilson is a reach??

                              [quote user="WMBG"]IMO its not so much picking Wilson is a reach, but rather picking any RB that is not an absolute game-changer in the first round is a reach. Considering:

                              1) RB is probably the position that has the highest injury risk

                              2) RB has the shortest average career

                              3) OLs make RBs 90% of the time unless you have a generational talent like Barry Sanders or AP

                              4) Drafting OL gives you double duty- protect QB better AND paves way for RB.

                              5) RB is devalued in today's game- the Colts, Saints, Pack, and Giants of recent superbowl memory did not have dominant runners. Passing is simply the more efficient way of gaining yardage. They simply set up the run with dominant air games.

                              6) We are moving towards the late 2000s Colts way of playing football (i.e. get a lead early with explosive plays, and then murder opposing QBs with edge rushers when they try to throw) instead of the current 49er formula that requires power running to kill clock. We don't need a strong running game, just one that forces opponents to be honest and not drop everyone into coverage.

                              I don't think anyone here will argue that Wilson is not an impressive running back, or that he won't make an impact. Yet, why use our top pick to select a position that not only has a high chance of injury, but also is just systematically less useful in modern football and our team? High risk, moderate reward.[/quote]

                              imagine our passing attack mixed with a dominant running game. this team will be unstoppable on offense.

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