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    Let's assume that R2 will be our #3 receiver. Let's debate who will fill the 4 hole. I think we are forgetting that we got bennett. This guy might be a steal for us. Anyway, I would love to see a tall package, where we have our height guys out there in 4-5 receiver sets. Nicks-barden- Cruz- Randall- Robinson. That would be something. Eli would have a field day.

  • #2
    Re: 4 WR

    its all about matchups.

    we have an excellent mix of different types of wr's that offer up diff. dynamics.

    nicks and randle i'd say are all around type wr's.

    cruz, JJ are guys who can kill out of the slot, and cruz will also kill out on the perimeter.

    Bardens the wild card who is approaching critical mass. he has to show where he can fit in and do it fast....unlike most, i still believe he makes the roster and is activated most of the games. JR approached the whole ST aspect through the plethora of DB's he's added.

    Oh and about Bennett, I am extremely excited to see him play, but I dunno how smart it'd be to line him up out wide or off the line, part of his skill set is the ability to block at a high level, to take him off the line just eleminates the possibility or the ability to show that he may block...

    i still also think we will add a WR and TE after teams start making roster cuts

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    • #3
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      [quote user="Pa1jintfan"]Let's assume that R2 will be our #3 receiver. Let's debate who will fill the 4 hole. I think we are forgetting that we got bennett. This guy might be a steal for us. Anyway, I would love to see a tall package, where we have our height guys out there in 4-5 receiver sets. Nicks-barden- Cruz- Randall- Robinson. That would be something. Eli would have a field day.[/quote]
      I'm excited about our depth and expect either JJ or Barden to step up. And Hixon provides veteran experience there, too.

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      • #4
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        Barden #4. If you ask me Barden is still going to be #3. It's going to be a great camp with the battle at WR and at RB.
        Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

        http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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        • #5
          Re: 4 WR

          [quote user="Pa1jintfan"]Let's assume that R2 will be our #3 receiver. Let's debate who will fill the 4 hole. I think we are forgetting that we got bennett. This guy might be a steal for us. Anyway, I would love to see a tall package, where we have our height guys out there in 4-5 receiver sets. Nicks-barden- Cruz- Randall- Robinson. That would be something. Eli would have a field day.[/quote]

          Remember, Bennett is a lineman first in this organization. I'd also be careful crowning Randle before he takes a snap in the NFL or assuming Barden will do something he's not been able to do in three years.
          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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          • #6
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            Actually, I don't think Randal is going to make a very big impact on the team in his first year.

            Look at the history of our WR over the past 6 or 7 seasons and it shows that guys need at least a year to really learn this system before they're able to play naturally.

            Smith, MM, Cruz made little impacts in their first year. Well, smith did come on in the playoffs. Even Nicks had some ups and downs his rookie season.

            JRs' always building towards the future, so the Randal pick isn't necessarily about this year.
            All Hail The New York Giants!!

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            • #7
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              [quote user="B&RWarrior"]Barden #4. If you ask me Barden is still going to be #3. It's going to be a great camp with the battle at WR and at RB.[/quote] didn't supposedly jernigan have the upper hand on Barden even as a rookie?;;

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              • #8
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                [quote user="myles2424"][quote user="B&RWarrior"]Barden #4. If you ask me Barden is still going to be #3. It's going to be a great camp with the battle at WR and at RB.[/quote] didn't supposedly jernigan have the upper hand on Barden even as a rookie?;;[/quote]

                Poppy****, Barden #3.
                Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

                http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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                • #9
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                  [quote user="B&RWarrior"][quote user="myles2424"][quote user="B&RWarrior"]Barden #4. If you ask me Barden is still going to be #3. It's going to be a great camp with the battle at WR and at RB.[/quote] didn't supposedly jernigan have the upper hand on Barden even as a rookie?;;[/quote]

                  Poppy****, Barden #3.[/quote]

                  Based on what in his first three years in the NFL? Perhaps we should wait for the actual competition and pre-season. He hasn't been lighting the field up so far.


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                  • #10
                    Re: 4 WR

                    [quote user="TrueBlue@NYC"]Actually, I don't think Randal is going to make a very big impact on the team in his first year.

                    Look at the history of our WR over the past 6 or 7 seasons and it shows that guys need at least a year to really learn this system before they're able to play naturally.

                    Smith, MM, Cruz made little impacts in their first year. Well, smith did come on in the playoffs. Even Nicks had some ups and downs his rookie season.

                    JRs' always building towards the future, so the Randal pick isn't necessarily about this year.[/quote]

                    One of the things I like about the organization is that they don't "expect" a lot out of their draftees in the year they are drafted, preferring to develop them over time.

                    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                    • #11
                      Re: 4 WR

                      I agree with all the replies. I too think that barden will be the wild card this year. He did have a good showing vs Dallas last year. He has the tools, just needs to stay healthy and study the playbook and defensive schemes. I do agree that bennett is a block first TE. And I think that is a nice upgrade over the last few years. Are options are great. Spread em out 5 wide, or double TE and punch them in the mouth. Are explosive passing game will back safeties off the line a bit. Teams will start changing there defensive philosophies soon and be forced to have a hybrid safety (grant type). The options are endless when you have THE BEST QB IN THE GAME. I honestly 100% believe Eli is the best in the biz right now. I trust everything he does now. Best trade ever in NFL history. Philip who???

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                      • #12
                        Re: 4 WR

                        Jernigan is ahead of Barden on the depth chart already, he was suiting up at the end of the year over Barden.

                        1. Jernigan brings special team value Barden does not

                        2. Barden can't stay healthy

                        3. Barden gets no seperation what so ever

                        and the bottom line is, Barden had one DECENT game against Dallas in 3 YEARS.

                        how I think WR depth chart will look:
                        Nicks, Cruz, Randle or Hixon, Jernigan, Barden, DePalma

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                        • #13
                          Re: 4 WR

                          Here's what I think the depth chart will look like:

                          1. Nicks
                          2. Cruz
                          3. Jernigan or Hixon (I'm leaning toward Hixon in week 1, but Jernigan claiming the 3 spot by about week 10)
                          4. Jernigan or Hixon
                          5. Randle (he'll probably surpass Hixon and maybe even Jernigan in 2013 though)
                          6. Barden (I would love to see Barden step up his game but at this point in his career I don't see it happening)

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                          • #14
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                            [quote user="DownWitJPP"]Jernigan is ahead of Barden on the depth chart already, he was suiting up at the end of the year over Barden. 1. Jernigan brings special team value Barden does not 2. Barden can't stay healthy 3. Barden gets no seperation what so ever and the bottom line is, Barden had one DECENT game against Dallas in 3 YEARS. how I think WR depth chart will look: Nicks, Cruz, Randle or Hixon, Jernigan, Barden, DePalma[/quote] I'm going with a bit of a surprise depth chart(well, to some maybe)..




                            1. Nicks




                            2. Cruz




                            3. Jerrnigan(yr in the NFL, after playing small school comp, has got to be huge for him, you'd think)




                            4. Randle




                            5. Hixon




                            6. Talley- Watch out for this kid in camp, he just may pull a cruz, and be the 2nd UMASS wr to make out squad..




                            As big a barden fan as i was coming outta the draft, i think i'm finally ready to admit i was wrong on that one... I think he gets cut in camp...

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                            • #15
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                              In case anyone was wanting to see our latest UMASS WR.. I found this very nice long highlight video.. I have no friends at UMASS now, so i haven't been to a game in awhile.. Anyhow, still read about em in the paper a couple times, and all though i believe Cruz was the more taletned of the 2, this kids pretty good himself.. UMASS has done well to get really good offensive weapons in here over the past several seasons.. THis kid runs great routes, can get u YAC, and takes a hit and holds on, can work all parts of the field..etc Hes pretty solid.. I think he'll fight for a spot...







                              Julian Talley Highlights - YouTube
                              10 min - Mar 31, 2012
                              Uploaded by showtme155

                              www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxlY-OmLFBo

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