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    GIANTS SEE VERSATILITY IN FORMER RUTGERS' STANDOUT JOE MARTINEK

    "After going undrafted, former Rutgers fullback Joe Martinek said he was in
    contact with Buccaneers – and former Rutgers – head coach Greg Schiano, but
    chose the Giants because it "was the better fit for me."


    Martinek, a Hopatcong naitive, said he didn't grow up a fan of any particular
    NFL team, but his friends and family are big fans of the Giants and he views
    being close to home as an advantage.




    Now that he's got his chance, he's looking to make the most of it.




    "I think my first impression was good," the converted fullback said. "I got
    to get into the playbook -- the different terminologies are frustrating at times
    but you got to get into the playbook, got to remember and just follow the
    schedule and do whatever you're asked to do."




    Martinek is one of eight undrafted free agent signings at rookie minicamp
    this weekend and Gilbride said he projects the former tailback as a fullback,
    though he maintained Martinek brings versatility to the table.




    "That fullback position is so versatile depending on who it is that's
    playing," Gilbride said. "But if he ever became the fullback, I think you would
    probably expand the movement in terms of taking him out of the backfield and
    putting him into that detached position that sometimes the tight ends will go to
    and see if he can catch the ball and do some things."

    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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    Re: GIANTS SEE VERSATILITY IN FORMER RUTGERS' STANDOUT JOE MARTINEK

    I know if he makes the team someone has to go but I'm really pulling for him. I mean his nickname is Jesey Joe. He would be an instant fan favorite.

    I'm an RU fan and I know he is a hard worker, good character guy, very good blocker, can catch very well out of the backfield, and he can move better than some on the team.

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    • #3
      Re: GIANTS SEE VERSATILITY IN FORMER RUTGERS' STANDOUT JOE MARTINEK

      [quote user="buddy33"]I know if he makes the team someone has to go but I'm really pulling for him. I mean his nickname is Jesey Joe. He would be an instant fan favorite.

      I'm an RU fan and I know he is a hard worker, good character guy, very good blocker, can catch very well out of the backfield, and he can move better than some on the team.[/quote]

      Do you think he can block better than Hynoski?

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      • #4
        Re: GIANTS SEE VERSATILITY IN FORMER RUTGERS' STANDOUT JOE MARTINEK

        [quote user="Pakman"]
        Do you think he can block better than Hynoski?[/quote]

        Hes 40 pounds smaller... No. Not even in the same ballpark.

        For comparison, hes the exact same size as DJ Ware.

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        • #5
          Re: GIANTS SEE VERSATILITY IN FORMER RUTGERS' STANDOUT JOE MARTINEK

          That doesn't mean he is not a good blocker.

          I would say Maryinek is better catching the ball out of the backfield and much faster.

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          • #6
            Re: GIANTS SEE VERSATILITY IN FORMER RUTGERS' STANDOUT JOE MARTINEK

            [quote user="buddy33"]That doesn't mean he is not a good blocker. [/quote]

            It means he is never going to be capable of moving a 250 pound LB out of the hole like Hynoski can.

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            • #7
              Re: GIANTS SEE VERSATILITY IN FORMER RUTGERS' STANDOUT JOE MARTINEK

              Maybe, but I watched him play and he he plays bigger than he really is. Also, if needed, he could always add 10-15 pounds. He used o be a RB and I'm sure he wasn't trying to be bigger.

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              • #8
                Re: GIANTS SEE VERSATILITY IN FORMER RUTGERS' STANDOUT JOE MARTINEK

                [quote user="buddy33"]Also, if needed, he could always add 10-15 pounds.[/quote]

                And that would still put him at least 20 pounds smaller than Hynoski.

                And likely harm his catching and speed.

                Martinek is going to have a very different role than Hynoski, they arent going to be asked to do the same things. They arent in direct competition.

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                • #9
                  Re: GIANTS SEE VERSATILITY IN FORMER RUTGERS' STANDOUT JOE MARTINEK

                  Honestly I didn't even mean to say he would take his job, but there are other guys that might be in trouble if he shines in camp.

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                  • #10
                    Re: GIANTS SEE VERSATILITY IN FORMER RUTGERS' STANDOUT JOE MARTINEK

                    [quote user="buddy33"]Honestly I didn't even mean to say he would take his job, but there are other guys that might be in trouble if he shines in camp.[/quote]

                    Possibly. I just think we should classify "FB" as a single position where they all do the same thing. Just like WR or TE, different types of players can bring different skill sets. And can compliment each other.

                    As I said in another thread, I think Martinek could find a role in passing downs, as a sort of 3rd down FB.

                    If they go multiple WRs then defenses will go to nickel or dime defenses, where Martinek can be an effective blocker against smaller defenders than trying to take on 250+ pound LBs in a I formation. And his blocking skills can suit him as a pass blocker, and he is an accomplished receiver out of the backfield.

                    That gives both Martinek and Hynoski clear roles, where they compliment the offense and each other.

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                    • #11
                      Re: GIANTS SEE VERSATILITY IN FORMER RUTGERS' STANDOUT JOE MARTINEK

                      As I stated in the other thread, I do not think Hynoski is in danger of losing his job right now. But we absolutely have to have someone on the roster who can be a backup fullback. For the past few seasons it has been Pascoe. But, Pascoe is in a dog fight for his position. If Martinek can take over as a backup FB ,and also provide a little depth at RB the way Ruben Droughns did for us in 2007, then Pascoes stock goes down just a bit more since he isnt needed as a backup FB. Maybe that little bit ends up being the difference in him making the team or not.

                      Furthermore, while I agree that Joe is unlikely to be a starting FB in the NFL at 224 lbs, Him Bulking up to 240+ is certainly possible and that's plenty big enough to be a NFL FB. In fact, you could argue the best FB in the NFL last year was Marcel Reece, and he is 240.
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                      • #12
                        Re: GIANTS SEE VERSATILITY IN FORMER RUTGERS' STANDOUT JOE MARTINEK

                        [quote user="BlueSanta"] In fact, you could argue the best FB in the NFL last year was Marcel Reece, and he is 240.
                        [/quote]

                        Also one of the worst blocking FBs in the league.

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                        • #13
                          Re: GIANTS SEE VERSATILITY IN FORMER RUTGERS' STANDOUT JOE MARTINEK

                          [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="buddy33"]Honestly I didn't even mean to say he would take his job, but there are other guys that might be in trouble if he shines in camp.[/quote]

                          Possibly. I just think we should classify "FB" as a single position where they all do the same thing. Just like WR or TE, different types of players can bring different skill sets. And can compliment each other.

                          As I said in another thread, I think Martinek could find a role in passing downs, as a sort of 3rd down FB.

                          If they go multiple WRs then defenses will go to nickel or dime defenses, where Martinek can be an effective blocker against smaller defenders than trying to take on 250+ pound LBs in a I formation. And his blocking skills can suit him as a pass blocker, and he is an accomplished receiver out of the backfield.

                          That gives both Martinek and Hynoski clear roles, where they compliment the offense and each other.[/quote]

                          I agree slip. In fact I believe Gilbride mentioned the options Martinek would give them as a 3rd down single back. He can run, pass protect, and he even mentioned motioning him out the backfield and creating mismatches.

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                          • #14
                            Re: GIANTS SEE VERSATILITY IN FORMER RUTGERS' STANDOUT JOE MARTINEK

                            [quote user="slipknottin"][quote user="BlueSanta"] In fact, you could argue the best FB in the NFL last year was Marcel Reece, and he is 240.
                            [/quote]

                            Also one of the worst blocking FBs in the league.[/quote]

                            Well, thats your opinion, 1 I do not share. He was a very good lead blocker last year. Here is a quote from waterfootball "Marcel "Matchup Nightmare" Reece is one of the top fullbacks in the NFL. He does everything really well" The Raiders

                            But the point really is that if he gets to 240, which is very realistic, he would have the size play FB in this league. Another example would be Tony Fiammetta, who is listed at 6' 242. Are you going to argue he is also a bad lead blocker too?

                            He already had the versatility to add value, with a little time he could easily add the size too complete the package.
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                            • #15
                              Re: GIANTS SEE VERSATILITY IN FORMER RUTGERS' STANDOUT JOE MARTINEK

                              [quote user="BlueSanta"]with a little time he could easily add the size too complete the package.
                              [/quote]

                              Fiammetta was/is playing at over 250 pounds.

                              The assumption that Martinek can add another 30+ pounds and somehow retain all his other skills is a massive one.

                              I just dont understand why you are so desperate to make him a fullback in the Hynoski role, why not let him do what he does instead of jam him into a completely different role.

                              And really, walterfootball as some sort of football reference is not validating your position.

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