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    ELI MANNING SEES ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN GIANTS, NOT SO SUPED UP ABOUT 9 - 7 RECORD LAST REGULAR SEASON

    "Eli Manning has not let one magical playoff month camouflage what the Giants
    really were over four months of the regular season last year. They were a team
    that barely finished over .500 and took advantage of the weakest year in the
    history of the NFC East.


    The Giants have spent the offseason being toasted by New York. The Super Bowl
    champs will hear once again how great they are when they visit the White House
    on June 8 and meet President Obama.




    But Manning sets the agenda, and with training camp two months away, he’s not
    talking about repeating or dynasties. His message sounds an awful lot like the
    old Bill Parcells saying: You are what you record says you are.




    “We got to have the mind-set that we were a 9-7 team last year, not a Super
    Bowl-winning team,” he told the Daily News on Wednesday.




    Will that be a hard position to sell in the locker room?




    “It’s not hard to sell it to me,” he said. “You look at the film, you kind of
    take the big picture out of it and you look at the small picture, you look at
    individual plays, concepts of plays watching on film — we got to get
    better.”




    So, even before the Cowboys and Eagles can say they finished just one game
    behind the Giants, and the Redskins can say they beat the Giants twice, and even
    the Jets can rationalize it might have been them making that Super Bowl run if
    they had beaten the Giants in that nasty showdown in the next-to-last game of
    the season, Manning issued a preemptive strike. The Giants were not a great team
    last season, they just played great at the right time.




    The Giants were 6-2, lost four in a row to the 49ers, Eagles, Saints and
    Packers, then beat the Cowboys twice in the last four games of the season to
    become the first team to win the NFC East at 9-7. They then beat the Falcons,
    Packers and 49ers in the playoffs and the Patriots in Super Bowl XLVI to become
    the first team to win the Super Bowl at 9-7.




    Manning is focusing on the 9-7 record, not the Super Bowl title. “It’s a good
    way of looking at it,” Justin Tuck said.




    Does he look at it the same way?




    “Not exactly,” Tuck said. “I do understand we left a lot of football games
    out on the table that we should have won. Even though we won the Super Bowl, I
    feel as though we may have room to be a better football team this year.”




    The Giants have a shaky history in the season after their first three Super
    Bowl titles, the first two times not making the playoffs and the third time
    losing their only playoff game despite being the No. 1 seed. They had excuses:
    The 1987 strike, Parcells quitting in 1991, but waiting 3½ months after the
    Super Bowl to do it and Plaxico Burress shooting himself in the leg the night
    after Thanksgiving in 2008 when the Giants were the best team in the league.




    Now they have the broken foot suffered last week by Hakeem Nicks in a
    non-contract practice. Is that a bad omen, a prediction for more post-Super Bowl
    misery?




    “I don’t believe in omens or history,” Tuck said.




    Nicks is the Giants’ most dangerous offensive player. If he’s not ready for
    the start of the season, or if he is not the same explosive player, then that
    could prevent the Giants from making a run at repeating.


    Training camp starts in two months. It’s almost time to put the rings away.
    The way Manning sees it, the Giants are a 9-7 team that needs to get
    better."
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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    Re: ELI MANNING SEES ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN GIANTS, NOT SO SUPED UP ABOUT 9 - 7 RECORD LAST REGULAR SEASON

    If Eli can get the rest of the team to take this approach, there is no reason we can't repeat.
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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    • #3
      Re: ELI MANNING SEES ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN GIANTS, NOT SO SUPED UP ABOUT 9 - 7 RECORD LAST REGULAR SEASON

      There's no reason the Giants can't repeat, regardless of what way they approach the season. That's one of the best things about the NFL - it's completely unpredictable.

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        Re: ELI MANNING SEES ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN GIANTS, NOT SO SUPED UP ABOUT 9 - 7 RECORD LAST REGULAR SEASON

        [quote user="Flip Empty"]There's no reason the Giants can't repeat, regardless of what way they approach the season. That's one of the best things about the NFL - it's completely unpredictable.[/quote]

        You may not believe it, but it matters how they approach it. If they simply think it's theirs to lose, they will.
        “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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          Re: ELI MANNING SEES ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN GIANTS, NOT SO SUPED UP ABOUT 9 - 7 RECORD LAST REGULAR SEASON

          thats just what we need. A team to go into the season with a chip on its shoulder trying to prove something. Trying to show that the 9-7 record was what needs to be improved upon and not focusing on the SB Title. That will go a long way towards getting us back in the playoff hunt and maybe to another SB.
          Football has been very, very good to us.
          After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
          But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

          # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

          1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
          2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
          3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
          4-New York Giants!!!
          5-NE
          Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

          ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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            Re: ELI MANNING SEES ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN GIANTS, NOT SO SUPED UP ABOUT 9 - 7 RECORD LAST REGULAR SEASON

            [quote user="miked1958"]thats just what we need. A team to go into the season with a chip on its shoulder trying to prove something. Trying to show that the 9-7 record was what needs to be improved upon and not focusing on the SB Title. That will go a long way towards getting us back in the playoff hunt and maybe to another SB.[/quote]

            Recognizing they were 9 - 7 is simply acknowledging reality. Every team can improve. If we were 8 - 8 we likely miss the playoffs.
            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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              Re: ELI MANNING SEES ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN GIANTS, NOT SO SUPED UP ABOUT 9 - 7 RECORD LAST REGULAR SEASON

              You have to love Eli's attitude.

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                Re: ELI MANNING SEES ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN GIANTS, NOT SO SUPED UP ABOUT 9 - 7 RECORD LAST REGULAR SEASON

                [quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="miked1958"]thats just what we need. A team to go into the season with a chip on its shoulder trying to prove something. Trying to show that the 9-7 record was what needs to be improved upon and not focusing on the SB Title. That will go a long way towards getting us back in the playoff hunt and maybe to another SB.[/quote]

                Recognizing they were 9 - 7 is simply acknowledging reality.* Every team can improve.* If we were 8 - 8 we likely miss the playoffs.
                [/quote]

                They better improve or they could go from 1st to worst all the other NFC east teams have improved.

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                  Re: ELI MANNING SEES ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN GIANTS, NOT SO SUPED UP ABOUT 9 - 7 RECORD LAST REGULAR SEASON

                  [quote user="nygsb42champs"]You have to love Eli's attitude.[/quote]

                  It really speaks to the "what have you done for me now" mentality that is the NFL.
                  “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                    Re: ELI MANNING SEES ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN GIANTS, NOT SO SUPED UP ABOUT 9 - 7 RECORD LAST REGULAR SEASON

                    [quote user="jakegibbs"][quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="miked1958"]thats just what we need. A team to go into the season with a chip on its shoulder trying to prove something. Trying to show that the 9-7 record was what needs to be improved upon and not focusing on the SB Title. That will go a long way towards getting us back in the playoff hunt and maybe to another SB.[/quote]

                    Recognizing they were 9 - 7 is simply acknowledging reality. Every team can improve. If we were 8 - 8 we likely miss the playoffs.
                    [/quote]

                    They better improve or they could go from 1st to worst all the other NFC east teams have improved.[/quote]

                    My biggest concern is the OLine. Were that not to improve, it's gong to be a long season.
                    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                      Re: ELI MANNING SEES ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN GIANTS, NOT SO SUPED UP ABOUT 9 - 7 RECORD LAST REGULAR SEASON

                      [quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="Flip Empty"]There's no reason the Giants can't repeat, regardless of what way they approach the season. That's one of the best things about the NFL - it's completely unpredictable.[/quote]

                      You may not believe it, but it matters how they approach it. If they simply think it's theirs to lose, they will.
                      [/quote]
                      No, what I'm saying is that nothing is given in this league.
                      The Giants could approach the season like they're the worst team in the league, and then watch the actual worst team in the league (let's go with the Browns) go and win the whole thing.
                      Each season is different.

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                        Re: ELI MANNING SEES ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN GIANTS, NOT SO SUPED UP ABOUT 9 - 7 RECORD LAST REGULAR SEASON

                        [quote user="Flip Empty"][quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="Flip Empty"]There's no reason the Giants can't repeat, regardless of what way they approach the season. That's one of the best things about the NFL - it's completely unpredictable.[/quote]

                        You may not believe it, but it matters how they approach it. If they simply think it's theirs to lose, they will.
                        [/quote]
                        No, what I'm saying is that nothing is given in this league.
                        The Giants could approach the season like they're the worst team in the league, and then watch the actual worst team in the league (let's go with the Browns) go and win the whole thing.
                        Each season is different.[/quote]

                        Very true, but what Eli is saying is they can't simply walk onto the field and let it happen. It's going to take work.
                        “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                        • #13
                          Re: ELI MANNING SEES ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN GIANTS, NOT SO SUPED UP ABOUT 9 - 7 RECORD LAST REGULAR SEASON

                          Wow, I hope this whole team has this attitude.

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                            Re: ELI MANNING SEES ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN GIANTS, NOT SO SUPED UP ABOUT 9 - 7 RECORD LAST REGULAR SEASON



                            Another way to look at it is it gives the team so much confidence going into 2012. Just like the SB42 run propelled us to 11-1 BPA (Before Plax's Accident). Was the team really that good, or were they still riding the momentum of the previous superbowl, or both?




                            Look at what the Superbowl champs have done in the following year after they won:




                            Team Year After SB Win
                            Colts 2007: 13-3
                            Giants 2008: 12-4
                            Steelers 2009: 9-7
                            Saints 2010: 11-5
                            Packers 2011: 15-1
                            Giants 2012:

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                              Re: ELI MANNING SEES ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN GIANTS, NOT SO SUPED UP ABOUT 9 - 7 RECORD LAST REGULAR SEASON

                              EVERY team in this league has the personnel to win it all, but that's only 80% of what's needed. You need to throw in some good coaching 10%, good organization 5% and good luck 5% to meet your goal.

                              I truly believe it's that final 20% that separates the good teams from the not so good teams. The good teams have 90%, the real good teams have 93% and the elite teams find that additional 7%.

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