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    " I told them today that not only do they not know what they are doing, but I donít know what they are doing. I donít know what Iím doing. This is a crash course for guys that havenít had the opportunities that we have had in past years where we could meet with these guys. These new guidelines that we are working under really, really do make it difficult for us to transport the knowledge to these guys. And the fact that we are, by design, having to move along very rapidly, it is beginning to all run together for them. We are in our third day today and today was just not very characteristic of Giants football. We have to be much better than that as we move forward. And it is the mass of information that we are giving them Ė it is just beginning to become a mix for them. So it is hard to tell exactly whether they are capable of playing because they are not sure exactly what they are doing. And with just helmets on, you canít get very much technique work done. So it needs to be assignment work, but today our assignments were not very good. So we have many miles before we sleep."


    [link]http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Assistant-Coaches-on-OTA-Practice/498d6a75-7460-420e-bf0b-7bab72fab815[/link]

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    [quote user="NY_Eli"]" I told them today that not only do they not know what they are doing, but I donít know what they are doing. I donít know what Iím doing. This is a crash course for guys that havenít had the opportunities that we have had in past years where we could meet with these guys. These new guidelines that we are working under really, really do make it difficult for us to transport the knowledge to these guys. And the fact that we are, by design, having to move along very rapidly, it is beginning to all run together for them. We are in our third day today and today was just not very characteristic of Giants football. We have to be much better than that as we move forward. And it is the mass of information that we are giving them Ė it is just beginning to become a mix for them. So it is hard to tell exactly whether they are capable of playing because they are not sure exactly what they are doing. And with just helmets on, you canít get very much technique work done. So it needs to be assignment work, but today our assignments were not very good. So we have many miles before we sleep."


    [link]http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Assistant-Coaches-on-OTA-Practice/498d6a75-7460-420e-bf0b-7bab72fab815[/link][/quote]

    I wouldn't be too concerned at this point in time. Think back to last pre-season when Gilbride teed off on Victor Cruz after he botched an assignment. The coaches know they only have so much time to get these guy to understand the playbook. They have to provide that sense or urgency from day one so the players don't shrug their mistakes off.

    Cruz took the criticism and got better quickly. I'm not saying everyone can do that, but that's how it has top be approached.
    ďNever argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.Ē MB Rule # 1

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    • #3
      Re: Discouraging words from Mike Pope

      [quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="NY_Eli"]" I told them today that not only do they not know what they are doing, but I donít know what they are doing. I donít know what Iím doing. This is a crash course for guys that havenít had the opportunities that we have had in past years where we could meet with these guys. These new guidelines that we are working under really, really do make it difficult for us to transport the knowledge to these guys. And the fact that we are, by design, having to move along very rapidly, it is beginning to all run together for them. We are in our third day today and today was just not very characteristic of Giants football. We have to be much better than that as we move forward. And it is the mass of information that we are giving them Ė it is just beginning to become a mix for them. So it is hard to tell exactly whether they are capable of playing because they are not sure exactly what they are doing. And with just helmets on, you canít get very much technique work done. So it needs to be assignment work, but today our assignments were not very good. So we have many miles before we sleep."


      [link]http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Assistant-Coaches-on-OTA-Practice/498d6a75-7460-420e-bf0b-7bab72fab815[/link][/quote]

      I wouldn't be too concerned at this point in time.* Think back to last pre-season when Gilbride teed off on Victor Cruz after he botched an assignment.* The coaches know they only have so much time to get these guy to understand the playbook.* They have to provide that sense or urgency from day one so the players don't shrug their mistakes off.

      Cruz took the criticism and got better quickly.* I'm not saying everyone can do that, but that's how it has top be approached.
      [/quote]

      True, but you have to admit he sounds a little exasperated ("I don't know what I'm doing").

      I think he's feeling the pressure, hopefully Bennett and co. can overcome this tough learning curve.

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        Re: Discouraging words from Mike Pope

        [quote user="NY_Eli"][quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="NY_Eli"]" I told them today that not only do they not know what they are doing, but I donít know what they are doing. I donít know what Iím doing. This is a crash course for guys that havenít had the opportunities that we have had in past years where we could meet with these guys. These new guidelines that we are working under really, really do make it difficult for us to transport the knowledge to these guys. And the fact that we are, by design, having to move along very rapidly, it is beginning to all run together for them. We are in our third day today and today was just not very characteristic of Giants football. We have to be much better than that as we move forward. And it is the mass of information that we are giving them Ė it is just beginning to become a mix for them. So it is hard to tell exactly whether they are capable of playing because they are not sure exactly what they are doing. And with just helmets on, you canít get very much technique work done. So it needs to be assignment work, but today our assignments were not very good. So we have many miles before we sleep."


        [link]http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Assistant-Coaches-on-OTA-Practice/498d6a75-7460-420e-bf0b-7bab72fab815[/link][/quote]

        I wouldn't be too concerned at this point in time. Think back to last pre-season when Gilbride teed off on Victor Cruz after he botched an assignment. The coaches know they only have so much time to get these guy to understand the playbook. They have to provide that sense or urgency from day one so the players don't shrug their mistakes off.

        Cruz took the criticism and got better quickly. I'm not saying everyone can do that, but that's how it has top be approached.
        [/quote]

        True, but you have to admit he sounds a little exasperated ("I don't know what I'm doing").

        I think he's feeling the pressure, hopefully Bennett and co. can overcome this tough learning curve.[/quote]

        It might just be his style, but I used the "sausage making" analogy last year. We all enjoy eating sausage but if we had to see it made we'd never touch it again. Pope and the rest of the coaches are making the sausage. []

        The GIANTS have one of the top coaching staffs in the NFL, they know what they're doing.
        ďNever argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.Ē MB Rule # 1

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        • #5
          Re: Discouraging words from Mike Pope

          We are totally screwed.

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          • #6
            Re: Discouraging words from Mike Pope

            [quote user="JMFP2"]We are totally screwed.[/quote]

            Why is that?

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            • #7
              Re: Discouraging words from Mike Pope

              Keep in mind hes working with some udfa and ps guys right now...doubt its gonna be looking great this early. Im just hopeful bennet and robinson are willing to put in the work

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              • #8
                Re: Discouraging words from Mike Pope

                [quote user="Mod_C"][quote user="JMFP2"]We are totally screwed.[/quote]

                Why is that?
                [/quote]

                Just kidding.

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                • #9
                  Re: Discouraging words from Mike Pope

                  I would not poo poo this so quickly. Oline is a mess an absolute shower imo.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Discouraging words from Mike Pope

                    [quote user="Harooni"]I would not poo poo this so quickly. Oline is a mess an absolute shower imo.
                    [/quote]

                    A little early to tell but clearly the new rules are making life more difficult
                    ďNever argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.Ē MB Rule # 1

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                    • #11
                      Re: Discouraging words from Mike Pope

                      [quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="Harooni"]I would not poo poo this so quickly. Oline is a mess an absolute shower imo.
                      [/quote]

                      A little early to tell but clearly the new rules are making life more difficult
                      [/quote]

                      im sorry but you dont get probowl tackles in the 6th 7th round. lets look at the nfc champ game again. if we dont have backfoot eli we were toast.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Discouraging words from Mike Pope

                        Yeah, I'm hoping we can get a top five draft pick next year...

                        It's too bad too. When Bill Parcells was here, you'd always hear him lavishing praise on players, particularly rookies and free agents and especially at the beginning of a camp. You therefore knew you'd be heading into a successful season.

                        Needless to say, we're screwed.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Discouraging words from Mike Pope

                          I would be much more worried if he said " we are all set to go."


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                          • #14
                            Re: Discouraging words from Mike Pope

                            This is just OTA and you have rookies in there for the first time....do you really expect the coaches to say "these guys are getting it down we have this in hand" letting the players relax

                            This is just to start, you have to say how "difficult" it will be how hard it will be, etc, etc keep them down, keep the team motivated towards improving throughout the offseason and then build the team up as you approach the first regular season game.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Discouraging words from Mike Pope

                              I think it is an example of using words like a rancher uses a cattle prod. If Pope were really disheartened, he wouldn't announce it publicly. Just another tool to use IMHO.

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