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  • NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: SATURDAY, JUNE 9, 2012 - 10:35 A.M.

    HERE NOW THE NEWS

    NEWS
    ARTICLES ABOUT THE NEW YORK FOOTBALL GIANTS ARE POSTED DAILY AND
    UPDATES ARE ADDED THROUGHOUT THE DAY. GENERAL SPORTS NEWS LINKS ARE
    ALSO INCLUDED.





    NEWARK STAR LEDGER

    SUPER BOWL CHAMP GIANTS FEEL COMFORTABLE IN WHITE HOUSE

    "This time, a bunch of the Giants players noted the finer details on their tour
    of the White House.


    Justin Tuck was interested to learn why a former president chose a certain
    picture, statue or china cabinet.




    Eli Manning, who spent a few hours here Friday, was intrigued by how the
    president’s chair is raised slightly higher than all of the others in each room
    and thinks he’ll soon suggest the same for his seat in the team’s meeting
    room.




    Meanwhile, Tom Coughlin felt comfortable enough in the surroundings this time
    to take a jab at the House and Senate during his speech.




    And in the case of David Diehl and Steve Weatherford, who tweeted a picture
    of themselves next to a bust of Lincoln (each with a finger up a nostril), they
    perhaps at times felt a little too at home in President Obama’s residence — a
    place they’re getting to know rather well.




    “I’m starting to figure it out a little bit. I kinda know, ‘Take a right,
    take a left,’?” said Manning, who filmed a public service message about
    preventing domestic violence with Vice President Joe Biden. “It’s just special
    to be here and have an opportunity to come to the White House, explore around,
    meet the people who work here and just hear some of the stories, just little
    things you’d never know unless you were here and someone told you.”




    Manning and his teammates met plenty of Giants fans during their second visit
    here in four years to be honored as Super Bowl champions.




    Certainly, their host isn’t a fan of the Giants but the president graciously
    welcomed the team, congratulated them on their ability to heed Coughlin’s
    “finish” mantra, advised the media who doubted Manning’s belief he was an elite
    quarterback to “be quiet” next time and highlighted Victor Cruz’s Super Bowl
    salsa and Mario Manningham’s sideline catch.

    Obama also accepted a No. 44 Giants jersey, though he wished it was a different
    shade of blue.



    “I just told him he looks good in blue,” said Tuck, who presented the jersey.
    “He was like, ‘You’re right, but I’d rather have that Chicago Bears (jersey) on
    me.’?”




    It was a lighthearted event on the South Lawn, as usual. The team lined the
    steps as a band played “New York, New York” while Coughlin and Obama walked
    toward the podium, laughing and chatting like old friends.




    Apparently, Coughlin felt that familiar during his speech as he was talking
    about the teamwork the Giants’ players showed this past season.




    “Wouldn’t it be nice if Congress operated the same way?” Coughlin quipped,
    eliciting a laugh and nod from Obama.




    Afterward, Coughlin said of the one-liner, “We knew that would be pleasing to
    the president. And to America.”




    Said Tuck of Coughlin, “He was kind of giddy. He knew he had a good speech
    going.”




    In that speech, Coughlin noted the Giants served as an inspiration for all
    Americans, including those “down on their luck.” He then mentioned “the real
    inspiration for our country, the men and women in the military,” including a few
    of the Wounded Warriors with whom the team met beforehand.




    Coughlin’s appreciation of the military recently earned him the Outstanding
    Civil Service Award from the U.S. Army.




    “I really wasn’t prepared for (Obama) to mention that honor when he was on
    the podium, but he did,” said Coughlin. “That was very nice of him.”




    Many of the players were also caught off-guard by Obama’s detailed comments
    to them, such as when he called the muscular Weatherford “the ripped-up kicker”
    and told him he was “shredded.”




    Coughlin enjoyed seeing how much the players “do appreciate the opportunity
    to spend a minute with the president.”




    Again.




    “I hope it (happens) more than twice in a lifetime,” he said."

    http://www.nj.com/giants/

    NY DAILY NEWS

    GIANTS' HOPE WHITE HOUSE VISIT ISN'T THEIR LAST AS BIG BLUE HONORED BY PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR SUPER BOWL XLVI TITLE

    "For Tom Coughlin, the
    Giants’ second trip to the White House in four years was “the highest honor many
    of us will ever achieve.” But there’s something that would be even
    better.


    Another trip to the White House in 2013.

    “A few short
    years ago I said I hope this experience was not a once-in-a-lifetime
    experience,” Coughlin said on Friday afternoon during a ceremony to honor the
    Super Bowl XLVI champions on the South Lawn. “Now I hope it’s not a
    twice-in-a-lifetime experience.”

    Then, turning to President Obama,
    Coughlin added: “We both have the goal to get back here next year.”

    For
    one day, though, it was more than enough for the Giants to be standing on the
    steps of the back door of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue for the second time since
    2008. They were honored again with the traditional ceremony and a private tour
    of the White House. They also met with a group of wounded war veterans before
    heading out to the lawn.

    And just as in 2008, the players seemed as
    excited as they were when they rode up the Canyon of Heroes — especially the
    ones who hadn’t been there before.

    “It was crazy, man,” said receiver
    Victor Cruz. “Just to be at the White House and meeting the President, it was
    just one of those experiences that I will never let go. It is just an amazing
    feeling to just tour this place and be in the same building as
    him.”

    After the President walked from the Oval Office to the ceremony
    with Coughlin at his side, he began his praise of the Super Bowl XLVI champs by
    saying, “You guys have been through this drill before.”

    Obama praised the
    Giants’ toughness, their teamwork and their resiliency. The Chicago Bears
    fan-in-chief also tweaked Justin Tuck for his choice of pre-game music – Phil
    Collins’ “In the Air Tonight”. And he took a big shot at the critics of
    quarterback Eli Manning, the two-time Super Bowl MVP.

    “I would just
    advise the sportswriters out there the next time Eli says he thinks he is an
    elite quarterback, you may just want to be quiet,” Obama said.

    Coughlin
    hit many of the same themes in his speech, which praised the U.S. military as
    the Giants’ true inspiration. He also praised the teamwork and togetherness of
    his players and added, “Wouldn’t it be nice if Congress operated the same
    way?”

    Tuck described Coughlin as “giddy” throughout the event. Several of
    his teammates seemed to be giddy as well. That included Manning, who arrived two
    hours early to film a public service announcement against domestic violence with
    Vice President Biden and got his own private tour of the West Wing. He’s been to
    the White House several times, including twice as a Super Bowl
    champion.

    He sounded like the experience never gets old.

    “It’s a
    great tradition of teams that have won a championship to come to the White House
    and tool around a little bit, get to meet the President,” Manning said, “and to
    have one last celebration of last year.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giant


    NY POST

    BIG BLUE HAS SUPER VISIT WITH PRESIDENT

    "With President Barack Obama standing alongside him and listening intently,
    Giants coach Tom Coughlin stood behind a podium on a sun-splashed afternoon on
    the South Lawn of the White House and offered a reminder and a wish for the
    future.



    “A few short years ago, I said I hoped this experience was not a once-in-a
    lifetime experience,’’ Coughlin said yesterday during the Super Bowl champion
    Giants visit to meet the President. “Now I’m saying I hope, Mr. President, it’s
    not a twice-in-a-lifetime experience. We both have a goal to get back here next
    year.’’

    With that, Obama smiled, clearly approving Coughlin’s message.



    For the second time in four years, the Giants made this trip, the last time
    meeting President George W. Bush and this time getting to hear Obama laud them
    for their improbable 2011 season.




    “Last year’s Giants were obviously a special one,’’ Obama said. “Not just
    because of where they ended up, but because of how they got there.’’




    The President mentioned Coughlin’s toughness, recalling last season’s game
    against the Jets when he was run over on the sideline, suffered a knee injury
    but didn’t leave the field.




    “That is a tough guy and you can see that toughness reflected on everybody
    else on this team,’’ Obama said. “The Giants took a whole bunch of hits this
    season but they never went down. They followed a simple motto: Finish.’’




    Obama busted on Justin Tuck choosing as his good luck song “In The Air
    Tonight’’ and that song being used in the highlight film the Giants watched the
    night before Super Bowl XLVI.




    “I don’t know about a little Phil Collins before a big game,’’ Obama cracked.
    “I may try that before a big meeting with Congress. But apparently it worked.
    The next night Eli Manning led the way and earned his second Super Bowl
    MVP.’’




    Manning, Tuck and Zak DeOssie as the tri-captains presented Obama with a blue
    No. 44 (signifying the 44th President of the United States) Giants jersey.




    “I just told him he looks good in blue,’’ Tuck said. “He was like, ‘You’re
    right, but I’d rather have that Chicago Bears [jersey] on me.’ He’s being true
    to it and he’s not being a politician when it comes to that. That’s something
    you have to have a lot of respect for him.’’




    Obama chided sportswriters, advising them, “The next time Eli says he thinks
    he is an elite quarterback, you may just want to be quiet.’’




    Obama also saluted Tuck’s ability to get to the opposing quarterback and
    mentioned Victor Cruz, who “scored and salsa-ed.’’ The President also saluted
    Mario Manningham, now with the 49ers and not in attendance, for “the biggest
    catch of his life’’ in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl comeback.




    Before the brief ceremony, the Giants visited with a group of Wounded
    Warriors at the White House.




    Manning did not travel with his team by train from New Jersey, as he flew in
    earlier in the day from Tennessee and arrived early enough to get a private
    two-hour tour of the White House, seeing the West Wing and Oval Office.




    “It’s great just to see and think about all the important meetings, all the
    leaders of this country, the decision makers, all in certain rooms where things
    were decided,’’ Manning said. “It really is special to think about whose
    company, who has been in those rooms you are standing in.’’




    Manning had a one-on-one meeting with Vice President Biden, shook hands with
    many Giants fans working inside the White House and even noticed that in all
    meeting rooms the seat reserved for the president was higher than all others.




    “I’m going to start doing that ... it’s a good idea,’’ Manning said of the
    elevating the quarterback seat in team meetings. He also took a picture of
    himself behind a presidential podium and sent it to his friends with the words
    “A glimpse of the future.’’




    Eli Manning for President?




    “I was joking,’’ he said. “That would be scary, a nightmare.’’




    With the White House ceremony behind them, this officially ends five months
    of Super Bowl celebratory events.




    “It’s come to a close now,’’ Antrel Rolle said. “This is the final hour of
    2011 and that Super Bowl run. We’re looking to bigger and better things. They
    say when you give a shark a little bit of blood he’s going to keep hunting.
    That’s the way I look at it.’’

    http://www.nypost.com/sports/giants

    THE BERGEN RECORD

    VICTOR CRUZ, GIANTS RELISH THEIR TRIP TO THE WHITE HOUSE

    "Victor Cruz will never forget the moment.



    President Obama did not break out the “Silk City Salsa” on the South Lawn
    outside the White House, although he did mention Cruz’s iconic touchdown dance
    during the ceremony Friday afternoon honoring the Giants’ Super Bowl XLVI
    championship.




    Yet as the president made his entrance with coach Tom Coughlin at his side,
    the longtime Chicago Bears fan scoured the crowd of assembled Giants players,
    coaches and officials before he found Cruz and pointed to him, greeting the Paterson native with a smile.




    That, to a record-setting wide receiver from North Jersey, was another sign —
    the most memorable yet — of just how far he and this team had come.




    So was the sight of numerous blue No. 80 jerseys spotted in an audience of
    luminaries.




    “This whole day makes me think about that, how much I’ve grown not only as an
    athlete but as a person,” said Cruz, who sported a maroon tie as a tribute to
    the school colors of Paterson Catholic and
    Massachusetts, his high school and college. “To be here and to shake hands with
    the president, to be here with a [Super Bowl] ring on at the White House, it
    ranks up there in my moments, the best I’ve ever had.




    “These are moments in my life that I get to cherish and take with me
    forever.”




    Cruz and the Giants approached their well-earned visit to the White House and
    their time in the presence of the president with the same mind-set that produced
    success last season.




    Following Coughlin’s lead, once again providing plenty of meaning to the two
    phrases that defined their Super Bowl quest, the Giants went all-in and
    ultimately finished with a grand finale to a remarkable season to remember.




    The president praised two-time Super Bowl MVP Eli Manning for proving he was
    an elite quarterback and joked sports writers should never doubt him again. He
    spoke of Justin Tuck’s resiliency and Big Blue’s ability to get after opposing
    quarterbacks, gave Cruz a shout-out for his emergence as a star and lauded Mario
    Manningham for getting both of his feet down in-bounds on the big game’s biggest
    catch.




    “The Giants took a whole bunch of hits this season, but they never went
    down,” the president said. “From Day One they followed a simple motto: Finish.
    Finish the play. Finish the game. Finish the season.”




    Coughlin later referenced the president’s hope to finish in November and win
    re-election.




    “I hope this is not a twice in a lifetime experience,” the coach said. “We
    both have a goal to get back here next year.”




    The president applauded Coughlin when, in talking about the Giants’ teamwork,
    the coach joked: “Wouldn’t it be nice if Congress operated the same way?”




    In his second trip to the White House, Manning is getting familiar with the
    place and its history. He arrived two hours earlier than his teammates and met
    with Vice President Biden; the two filmed a public service announcement against
    domestic violence.




    Manning also got a more complete tour, including a stop in the Oval
    Office.




    “I’m starting to figure it out a little bit. I kinda know, ‘Take a right,
    take a left,’ ” Manning said. “It’s just special to be here … Just to hear all
    the stories about paintings, and desks, and chairs. You hear all the president’s
    chairs are a little elevated in all the meeting rooms, little things like that
    you’d never know unless you were here and someone told you.”




    As for having the quarterback’s chair elevated in the Giants’ meeting room,
    Manning joked: “I’m going to start doing that. It’s a good idea.”




    Manning even let the Giants snap a photo of him behind the lectern inside the
    James S. Brady press briefing room – the one the president speaks behind so
    often.




    The quarterback insisted it was not taken to foreshadow his future in
    politics.




    “I sent [the photo] to my buddies and said, ‘A glimpse of the future. FYI,’ ”
    Manning said with a laugh. “But I was joking. That would be scary, a
    nightmare.”




    On the heels of a dream season, the Giants turned the page with a promise to
    return to the White House as champions as quickly as they can.




    “I definitely want to be able to come back to this place and have us talk
    about another Super Bowl that we won,” Cruz said. “Hopefully that can happen
    more sooner than later.”


    http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_sports/football/


    HISTORICAL GIANTS' CLIPS: 1958 VS. DETROIT LIONS

    "Historical New York
    Giants
    clips is a weekly Giants 101 feature that takes a look back at
    vintage video of Big Blue, both in color and black and white, over the course of
    their illustrious history. Whether it's a win or a loss, the purpose of this
    feature is to help educate newer generations of Giants fans and to bring older
    generations of Giants fans back in time. Enjoy.



    When thinking about the New York Football Giants in 1958, many immediately turn their
    attention to "The Greatest Game Ever Played" – the 1958 NFL Championship
    between Big Blue and the Baltimore Colts. However, if not for a series of wins
    leading up to said championship, "The Greatest Game Ever Played" wouldn't have
    been played. And in week 11 against the Detroit Lions, the 7-3 Giants were facing elimination as
    they trailed 17-12 in the 4th quarter.










    In a sign that the Detroit franchise hasn't changed much over the years, it
    was a failed fake punt by Yale Lary on 4th-and-22 that led to a Frank
    Gifford
    one-yard touchdown to put the Giants up 19-17 and then a blocked
    field goal courtesy Harland Svare with 1:13 left on the clock to seal the
    victory.




    The Giants would go on to defeat the Cleveland
    Browns twice in two weeks, 13-10 in week 12 and 10-0 in the divisional round of
    the playoffs, before falling to the Colts 23-17 in the NFL Championship
    game."




    GIANTS' RUNNING BACKS: QUESTION MARKS HEADING INTO TRAINING CAMP






    The New York
    Giants
    are the only team in NFL history to finish the regular season last in
    the league in rushing and still win the Super Bowl. For Big Blue to increase
    their chances of a repeat in 2012, it would be prudent to improve their rushing
    attack.




    Although poor run blocking by the offensive line was a major contributing
    factor to the Giants lack of production on the ground, the often inconsistent
    play from the running back position was also an important aspect of why the
    running game failed to become a factor in several games last season. Ahmad
    Bradshaw
    's inconsistent health, along with Brandon
    Jacobs
    failing to utilize his 6'4/ 264lb frame caused Big Blue to average a
    mere 89.5 rushing yards per game last year.




    With Jacobs' departure via free agency, the team will have to rely on several
    unproven players to backup Bradshaw. Below, we will look at who the team will
    depend upon for increased production throughout the 2012 season.




    Ahmad
    Bradshaw
    -At least for the beginning of this
    season, Ahmad
    Bradshaw
    will be relied upon as a true number one running back. Until the
    team has a better idea of how good the players behind him on the depth chart
    are, Offensive Coordinator Kevin
    Gilbride
    will have no choice but to increase Bradshaw's workload. In all his
    previous years, Bradshaw had Brandon
    Jacobs
    to take a relatively significant amount of pressure off the 5'10/
    214lbplayer out of Marshall, particularly in pass blocking and short yardage
    situations. However, Brandon
    Jacobs
    is gone and there is no proven player that can be immediately
    depended upon to take hold of the number two running pack position. Furthermore,
    Bradshaw's increased responsibilities could not come at a worse time for
    him.




    Last season, he only played in 12 games and had his worst statistical year
    ever. He averaged 3.9 yards per carry, as opposed to 4.5 ypc in 2010. This
    season, with a more experienced offensive line, we should see an increase in
    those numbers; however, the real question is whether Bradshaw can stay healthy.
    Since 2009, he has had lingering right foot and ankle issues which have limited
    his effectiveness. This offseason, Bradshaw had a small procedure done to help
    his foot injury from last year heal faster; which means he still hasn't fully
    recovered from his injuries from 2011. In short, although Ahmad
    Bradshaw
    is a great player, he can not be fully relied upon to stay healthy
    for an entire season, especially at a position that takes a physical beating
    each game. It is more than likely that for the Giants to have an effective
    rushing attack this season, at least one of the younger running backs will have
    to step up and produce in a big way.




    David
    Wilson
    The 5'10/ 205lb rookie first round
    pick out of Virginia Tech has impressed his coaches with his speed, quickness, and stamina
    in OTA's; however, there is a big difference between looking good with no pads
    on and producing in NFL games. That being said, Wilson does have elite speed
    (4.4 second forty-yard dash) and has also proven to be a versatile player. At
    Virginia Tech, Wilson gained 2662 yards rushing and also returned kicks for 1324
    yards (2 touchdowns) over three seasons. He was named ACC player of the year
    last year. While Wilson's physical traits and college statistics suggest he
    should be a good NFL player for years to come, the question is whether he can
    adjust to the speed of an NFL game in time to be productive this season.
    Obviously, there is a significant learning curve when one jumps from college to
    the NFL. Unless Wilson has an unbelievable preseason, look for Tom Coughlin to
    ease him into the running back rotation, slowly increasing his workload each
    week.




    D.J.
    Ware
    - The 6th year player out of Georgia has
    never been better than a number three option out of the backfield. While Ware
    can be relatively effective when used sparingly, he will have much more value
    for the team as a pass blocker. The Giants often used Ware in passing situations
    last year because of his pass blocking capabilities. Furthermore, he did have
    some nice runs on draw plays out of the shotgun. If Ahmad
    Bradshaw
    were to get injured, the Giants would have to rely upon D.J. Ware,
    David
    Wilson
    and Da'rel Scott to pass protect for Eli
    Manning
    . Both Wilson and Scott are inexperienced in that aspect of the game.
    So although D.J. Ware is
    not a great threat out of the backfield, he would become extremely valuable to
    the Giants' pass heavy offense if Ahmad
    Bradshaw
    were to get injured.




    Da'Rel Scott - Although Da'Rel Scott
    showed promise during the preseason last year, he did relatively little during
    regular season play. The 2nd year player out of Maryland does have great speed,
    so look for him to contribute on kick returns. However, at 5'11/ 210lb, he is
    the same prototypical type of running back as Ahmad
    Bradshaw
    and David
    Wilson
    , so his skill-set does not really bring anything unique to the table.
    He may very well be capable of becoming a productive NFL player, but with
    Bradshaw, Wilson, and maybe even D.J. Ware ahead of him on the depth chart, Scott is going
    to struggle to get carries. That being said, if injuries allow Scott to see
    increased carries, he could be this years Victor Cruz. He possesses break away
    speed and with a year of experience under his belt, do not be surprised if he
    becomes a contributor at some point this season.




    Although the Giants have a very pass heavy offense, they played their best football
    towards the end of last season when the rushing game started to produce more
    significantly. With Brandon
    Jacobs
    in San
    Francisco
    and Ahmad
    Bradshaw
    's chronic foot issues, it is more than likely that one of the
    unproven running backs will have to be effective. David
    Wilson
    is the most likely candidate; however, he is still a rookie. The
    positional battle at backup running back will be interesting to watch for the
    duration of training camp."

    http://www.giants101.com/

    BIG BLUE VIEW

    NY GIANTS' NEWS AND NOTES: WHITE HOUSE EDITION

    "Here are some news and notes for you on this Saturday morning, New
    York Giants
    fans.



    Giants
    hope White House visit isn't their last | New York Daily News

    "A few
    short years ago I said I hope this experience was not a once-in-a-lifetime
    experience," Coughlin said on Friday afternoon during a ceremony on the South
    Lawn of the White House. "Now I hope it’s not a twice-in-a-lifetime experience."


    And turning to President Barack Obama, Coughlin added: "We both have the
    goal to get back here next year."





    Steve
    Silverman: Giants Head Coach Tom Coughlin Climbing Up The Charts " CBS New
    York

    It seemed like the obvious move for the Giants as soon as they won
    Super Bowl XLVI over the Patriots and
    completed yet another memorable postseason run. They had little choice but to
    lock up Tom Coughlin for a contract extension.




    Tuck
    not worried about the Jets - Giants Blog - ESPN New York

    "We don't worry
    about the Jets," Tuck said. "We
    really don't. I know that's become a heated rivalry and a topic of conversation,
    but the Jets are going to do their thing and we're going to do our thing. I'm
    not in their locker room and they're not in ours."

    "I really don't care
    what they say and what they do," he added. "I wish them all the luck in the
    world. I hope they make it to the Super Bowl every year and lose to us. I don't
    wish anything bad on the Jets but I don't get concerned with what comes out of
    Jets camp."




    Daily
    Blitz - June 7: NFC East most popular

    Today in the Blitz, ESPN released a
    fan poll it conducted and found out the NFC East is the most popular division
    around the country. 1. NFC East 22.2 2. NFC North 15.9 3. AFC East 11.6 4. AFC
    North 10.6 5. None 10.3 6. AFC West 9.3 7. NFC South 7.5 8. NFC West 7.1 9. AFC
    South 5.6.




    NFP:
    Five mistakes most NFL rookies will make

    An agent's perspective on the
    professional potholes that can trip up first-year players on the pro
    level."

    http://www.bigblueview.com/section/news



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    http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/teams/new_york_giants/56

    SPORTING NEWS

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stories

    NYG REPORTER



    http://nygreporter.com/



    NFL.COM


    http://www.nfl.com/teams/newyorkgiants/profile?team=NYG




    YAHOOSPORTS

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl


    FOX SPORTS


    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/new-york-giants/67056


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    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/3032875/ns/sports-nfl



    CBSSPORTS


    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/p...ew-york-giants



    SI.COM




    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ts/?eref=sinav





    ESPN.COM

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyg/new-york-giants



    FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS




    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/


    PRO FOOTBALL WEEKLY

    http://stats.profootballweekly.com/team/giants/


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    http://www.profootballfocus.com/

    MISCELLANEOUS

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    Thanks Roanoke!!!

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      Thanks RF!

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        Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: SATURDAY, JUNE 9, 2012 - 10:35 A.M.

        [quote user="NY_Eli"]Thanks RF![/quote]

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          Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: SATURDAY, JUNE 9, 2012 - 10:35 A.M.

          [quote user="Captain Chaos"]Thanks Roanoke!!![/quote]

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