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    Its not enough to like our QB. Its not enough to be happy he's our leader and appreciate everything he's done for our franchise. No sir.....You must love in unconditionally and forsake all others.




    Here's the way the thought police work.........




    If you say......... "I think Ben has great escape ability and makes a lot of plays with his feet"




    The Thought Police Interpretation. is....... Since Eli and Ben were drafted the same year, any compliments paid to Ben must mean you think he's better than Eli.




    Conclusion: You're an Eli Hater.







    If you say:......... "I think JPP is one of the best defensive players in the NFL"




    The Thought Police Interpretaion is:....... Since you like JPP, there is a chance that you think he is a better player than Eli.




    Conclusion..... You're an Eli Hater.







    If you say........"The Giants play great as a team"




    The thought Police Interpretation is.........Since you think we play as a team, you don't understand that Eli carries this team and we would be nothing without him.




    Conclusion....You're an Eli Hater.







    If you say........ "I think Eli improved tremendously this season"




    The thought Police Interpretation is......."Since you think he improved so much this season, you must believe that he wasn't always great. When I say always....I mean from that glorious day in April of 1980 when Archie looked at Olivia with a twinkle in his eye and Eli was immaculately concieved.




    Conclusion.....You're an Eli Hater.







    Sometimes you can't win around here.

    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

  • #2
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    Eli Hater.
    Do not feed the trolls.

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    • #3
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      [quote user="Morehead State"]


      Its not enough to like our QB. Its not enough to be happy he's our leader and appreciate everything he's done for our franchise. No sir.....You must love in unconditionally and forsake all others.




      Here's the way the thought police work.........




      If you say......... "I think Ben has great escape ability and makes a lot of plays with his feet"




      The Thought Police Interpretation. is....... Since Eli and Ben were drafted the same year, any compliments paid to Ben must mean you think he's better than Eli.




      Conclusion: You're an Eli Hater.







      If you say:......... "I think JPP is one of the best defensive players in the NFL"




      The Thought Police Interpretaion is:....... Since you like JPP, there is a chance that you think he is a better player than Eli.




      Conclusion..... You're an Eli Hater.







      If you say........"The Giants play great as a team"




      The thought Police Interpretation is.........Since you think we play as a team, you don't understand that Eli carries this team and we would be nothing without him.




      Conclusion....You're an Eli Hater.







      If you say........ "I think Eli improved tremendously this season"




      The thought Police Interpretation is......."Since you think he improved so much this season, you must believe that he wasn't always great. When I say always....I mean from that glorious day in April of 1980 when Archie looked at Olivia with a twinkle in his eye and Eli was immaculately concieved.




      Conclusion.....You're an Eli Hater.







      Sometimes you can't win around here.




      [/quote] yeahits ****ing crazy.....Like I said in another thread they like Eli so much they are justblinded by it they must watch every gamejust to see him make every singleplay...




      fight power Mh !

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      • #4
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        You really are turning into a joke.

        There can't be a thread talking about something that Eli has done well in without you or someone else attempting to minimize or marginalize it. Like in the Eli Career Stats thread. It was an innocuous offseason thread until you and Gumby decided to turn it into something else.

        If you think a thread on Eli is stupid or meaningless, then the best option is to JUST DON'T POST IN IT.

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        • #5
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          [quote user="Morehead State"]

          Its not enough to like our QB.* Its not enough to be happy he's our leader and appreciate everything he's done for our franchise.* No sir.....You must love in unconditionally and forsake all others.




          Here's the way the thought police work.........




          If you say.........** "I think Ben has great escape ability and makes a lot of plays with his feet"




          The Thought Police Interpretation. is....... Since Eli and Ben were drafted the same year, any compliments paid to Ben must mean you think he's better than Eli.*




          Conclusion:** You're an Eli Hater.




          *




          If you say:.........* "I think JPP is one of the best defensive players in the NFL"




          The Thought Police Interpretaion is:....... Since you like JPP, there is a chance that you think he is a better player than Eli.****




          *Conclusion..... You're an Eli Hater.




          *




          If you say........"The Giants play great as a team"




          The thought Police Interpretation is.........Since you think we play as a team, you don't understand that Eli carries this team and we would be nothing without him.**




          Conclusion....You're an Eli Hater.




          *




          If you say........ "I think Eli improved tremendously this season"




          The thought Police Interpretation is......."Since you think he improved so much this season, you must believe that he wasn't always great.* When I say always....I mean from that glorious day in April of 1980 when Archie looked at Olivia with a twinkle in his eye and Eli was immaculately concieved.




          Conclusion.....You're an Eli Hater.




          *




          Sometimes you can't win around here.

          [/quote]

          I'm notorious for not buying into the Eli is the G.O.A.T. bull.

          Eli had a great season and he shows a trend of improvement from his rookie year. This year he was great. He has not been great for his career.

          This is the first year he put the team on his back.

          Eli is one of the best QB's in the game now. He is not the best. He is not an all-time great NFL QB yet.

          Rings alone is not an indicator of greatness. Ross has two rings is he the best CB ever?

          Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

          http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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            I wouldn't call you an Eli hater for saying something like rodgers or brees are better. But I'd still take Eli over either of those guys. Rodgers and Brady would have disintegrated in that position with the o-line we had. The 49ers had beaten Brees the week before.

            I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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            • #7
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              [quote user="Toadofsteel"]I wouldn't call you an Eli hater for saying something like rodgers or brees are better. But I'd still take Eli over either of those guys. Rodgers and Brady would have disintegrated in that position with the o-line we had. The 49ers had beaten Brees the week before.[/quote]

              49ers beat the Saints. Brees doesn't play defense.
              Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

              http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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              • #8
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                [quote user="Drez"]You really are turning into a joke.

                There can't be a thread talking about something that Eli has done well in without you or someone else attempting to minimize or marginalize it. Like in the Eli Career Stats thread. It was an innocuous offseason thread until you and Gumby decided to turn it into something else.

                If you think a thread on Eli is stupid or meaningless, then the best option is to JUST DON'T POST IN IT.
                [/quote]

                If you're suggesting people only post in threads they agree in then obviously you shouldn't have posted here.

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                • #9
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                  [quote user="Roosevelt"][quote user="Drez"]You really are turning into a joke.

                  There can't be a thread talking about something that Eli has done well in without you or someone else attempting to minimize or marginalize it. Like in the Eli Career Stats thread. It was an innocuous offseason thread until you and Gumby decided to turn it into something else.

                  If you think a thread on Eli is stupid or meaningless, then the best option is to JUST DON'T POST IN IT.
                  [/quote]

                  If you're suggesting people only post in threads they agree in then obviously you shouldn't have posted here.
                  [/quote]
                  Well played, sir. Well played. lol.

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                  • #10
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                    [quote user="B&RWarrior"][quote user="Toadofsteel"]I wouldn't call you an Eli hater for saying something like rodgers or brees are better. But I'd still take Eli over either of those guys. Rodgers and Brady would have disintegrated in that position with the o-line we had. The 49ers had beaten Brees the week before.[/quote]

                    49ers beat the Saints. Brees doesn't play defense.[/quote]

                    I'm talking specifically about the 49ers defense though. Ignore Alex smith for a second. The 49ers had one of the best defenses in the league last year. Like us, they base their defense on the pass rush and putting the QB under siege for most of the game. Look at how the pass rush completely dismantled Brady in 2007, and even with Brady heavily preparing for it still wore him down in 2011. What I'm saying is that even though Eli might not have the numbers of Brady, Brees, or Rodgers, he has the toughness to endure that and not miss a beat. You could tell with the way the Giants defense played against Rodgers and Brady this postseason that they were thrown off their game. Look at all the dropped passes between those two games... I fully believe that was because of timing disruptions that the pass rush brings to the QB. And because Eli can play through that, I'd rather have him as my QB even if he's not as talented as several others.

                    I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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                    • #11
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                      [quote user="Drez"]You really are turning into a joke.

                      There can't be a thread talking about something that Eli has done well in without you or someone else attempting to minimize or marginalize it. Like in the Eli Career Stats thread. It was an innocuous offseason thread until you and Gumby decided to turn it into something else.

                      If you think a thread on Eli is stupid or meaningless, then the best option is to JUST DON'T POST IN IT.
                      [/quote]




                      Nonsense. I objected to the "Eli carried this team on his back" comment, which is an insult to every other player on our team.




                      As far as the stats thread, my point was that play on the field is what determines how great a QB is, not the amount of stats he accumulates over a long career. I think its Eli's play on the filed that makes him an outstanding QB.




                      Your twisted interpretations here are exactly what I'm talking about. I question the use of stats to determine how good a player is, and you immediately interpret that as an attack on Eli. Early in Eli's career, when his stats weren't that good but he was super clutch at the end of games, I was making the exact same claim, all in support of Eli. its called consistency. You might want to try it.




                      It was an attack on the use of stats. How could a reasonable person believe anything else.




                      Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                      • #12
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                        Sports fans in general get butthurt over stupid stuff anyway.

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                        • #13
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                          [quote user="Morehead State"]

                          Nonsense. I objected to the "Eli carried this team on his back" comment, which is an insult to every other player on our team.[/quote]



                          Then you are about the only person that doesn't believe that Eli carried the team on his back this past season. Even his TEAMMATES have said as much.




                          [quote user="Morehead State"]As far as the stats thread, my point was that play on the field is what determines how great a QB is, not the amount of stats he accumulates over a long career. I think its Eli's play on the filed that makes him an outstanding QB.[/quote]



                          Again, the basis of the thread was not measure Eli's greatness or not as a QB, but rather to speculate what his stats would be at the end of his career and where they would rank on the all time lists. It needed not to progress beyond that. But, of course, you didn't see it that way and needed to turn the thread into something else completely.




                          [quote user="Morehead State"]Your twisted interpretations here are exactly what I'm talking about. I question the use of stats to determine how good a player is, and you immediately interpret that as an attack on Eli. Early in Eli's career, when his stats weren't that good but he was super clutch at the end of games, I was making the exact same claim, all in support of Eli. its called consistency. You might want to try it.




                          It was an attack on the use of stats. How could a reasonable person believe anything else.[/quote]




                          In the career stats thread no one was using stats to say how great a QB was until you and Gumby changed the nature of the thread. And really, you aren't the one to be talking about consistency on the subject either. For instance in the Stats thread you said stats are meaningless... When someone said all Eli had to do to get a HoF nod was to have good statistical seasons, not great, you said that he would need better stats to get in? So which is it? Are stats meaningless or not?



                          The issue is just about whenever there's a thread saying something positive about Eli, several posters such as yourself attempt to deflect any of the praise being given.

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                          • #14
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                            As with any public debate, both sides have their extremists.

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                            • #15
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                              lol.......this board has changed you man..so bitter. []




                              ftr......At several moments during the season, when the running game was nonexistent and the defense like Swiss cheese....Eli and his recievers DID carry the team.....just sayin.

                              I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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