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    and you know... they actually have a point when i thought about it considering how the Elite teams, Pats, GB, Saints all have no D.




    So.....My Nephews. Joey a Cowboys fan and Kage a Pats fan both said in texts to me last night (and they were not even together) that if the Giants just had a AVERAGE DEFENSE they would be SERIOUS CONTENDERS for another SB Title. And they both hate the Gmen.




    Thoughts..................

    Football has been very, very good to us.
    After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
    But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

    # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

    1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
    2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
    3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
    4-New York Giants!!!
    5-NE
    Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

    ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

  • #2
    Re: Here is what my NON-GMEN Fans Nephews said......



    They're right.




    That is all.

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    • #3
      Re: Here is what my NON-GMEN Fans Nephews said......

      [quote user="miked1958"]

      and you know... they actually have a point when i thought about it considering how the Elite teams, Pats, GB, Saints all have no D.




      So.....My Nephews. Joey a Cowboys fan and Kage a Pats fan both said in texts to me last night (and they were not even together) that if the Giants just had a AVERAGE DEFENSE they would be SERIOUS CONTENDERS for another SB Title. And they both hate the Gmen.




      Thoughts..................

      [/quote]
      We can score with the best of them. But the combination of our lack of quality LBs and terrible soft zone defenses DEMAND that we score 30+ on a weekly basis.

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      • #4
        Re: Here is what my NON-GMEN Fans Nephews said......

        Absolutely correct. No excuse for our bunch of guys - even with injuries.. not to be at least average. Even 20th is fine. But dead last? Unacceptable. Our collective individual talent is up there with the best defense in the league.

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        • #5
          Re: Here is what my NON-GMEN Fans Nephews said......

          Was that some sort of "news" for you?

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          • #6
            Re: Here is what my NON-GMEN Fans Nephews said......

            [quote user="gumby742"]Absolutely correct.* No excuse for our bunch of guys - even with injuries.. not to be at least average.* Even 20th is fine.* But dead last?* Unacceptable.* Our collective individual talent is up there with the best defense in the league.[/quote]

            So injuries are no excuse? Then you say their collective talent is up there? See that's the problem, injuries have taken a lot of talent off the field and they are not dead last. Actually the Patriots are dead last with Green Bay being #31.

            I've said a few times now that while the offense is playing great they need to take better advantage of what the defense does give them. I know they didn't play great last night, but on the fumble that put the Giants in the red zone they only got a field goal. After they forced a punt late in the game after a JPP sack they didn't move the ball much and punted.

            The offense on the Patriots, Saints, and Green Bay take better advantage of when their defenses do make plays. The Giants offense is playing great. Just need to take advantage better of when the defense does make a stop or TO.

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            • #7
              Re: Here is what my NON-GMEN Fans Nephews said......



              [quote user="buddy33"][quote user="gumby742"]Absolutely correct. No excuse for our bunch of guys - even with injuries.. not to be at least average. Even 20th is fine. But dead last? Unacceptable. Our collective individual talent is up there with the best defense in the league.[/quote] So injuries are no excuse? Then you say their collective talent is up there? See that's the problem, injuries have taken a lot of talent off the field and they are not dead last. Actually the Patriots are dead last with Green Bay being #31. I've said a few times now that while the offense is playing great they need to take better advantage of what the defense does give them. I know they didn't play great last night, but on the fumble that put the Giants in the red zone they only got a field goal. After they forced a punt late in the game after a JPP sack they didn't move the ball much and punted. The offense on the Patriots, Saints, and Green Bay take better advantage of when their defenses do make plays. The Giants offense is playing great. Just need to take advantage better of when the defense does make a stop or TO.[/quote]




              Strange and numbers 31 and 32 on the list could play for the Super Bowl.. lol

              Football has been very, very good to us.
              After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
              But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

              # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

              1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
              2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
              3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
              4-New York Giants!!!
              5-NE
              Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

              ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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              • #8
                Re: Here is what my NON-GMEN Fans Nephews said......

                [quote user="BlueReign"][quote user="miked1958"]

                and you know... they actually have a point when i thought about it considering how the Elite teams, Pats, GB, Saints all have no D.




                So.....My Nephews. Joey a Cowboys fan and Kage a Pats fan both said in texts to me last night (and they were not even together) that if the Giants just had a AVERAGE DEFENSE they would be SERIOUS CONTENDERS for another SB Title. And they both hate the Gmen.




                Thoughts..................

                [/quote]
                We can score with the best of them. But the combination of our lack of quality LBs and terrible soft zone defenses DEMAND that we score 30+ on a weekly basis.
                [/quote]The Giants were getting torched in Man coverage as well its not just zone.

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                • #9
                  Re: Here is what my NON-GMEN Fans Nephews said......



                  [quote user="nygfanmaybe"]Was that some sort of "news" for you?[/quote]




                  No...its just sad that it seems something always stops us in years where there is a good chance to win it all.. Like the year plax shot himself. we had it... that changed everything.




                  This year if we just had a bit better luck and didnt have so many guys go down with season ending Injuries, i really think we go all the way. It would have been the perfect amount of Offense and D if we had some of those guys still playing.

                  Football has been very, very good to us.
                  After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                  But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                  # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                  1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                  2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                  3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                  4-New York Giants!!!
                  5-NE
                  Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                  ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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                  • #10
                    Re: Here is what my NON-GMEN Fans Nephews said......

                    [quote user="buddy33"][quote user="gumby742"]Absolutely correct.* No excuse for our bunch of guys - even with injuries.. not to be at least average.* Even 20th is fine.* But dead last?* Unacceptable.* Our collective individual talent is up there with the best defense in the league.[/quote]

                    So injuries are no excuse? Then you say their collective talent is up there? See that's the problem, injuries have taken a lot of talent off the field and they are not dead last. Actually the Patriots are dead last with Green Bay being #31.

                    I've said a few times now that while the offense is playing great they need to take better advantage of what the defense does give them. I know they didn't play great last night, but on the fumble that put the Giants in the red zone they only got a field goal. After they forced a punt late in the game after a JPP sack they didn't move the ball much and punted.

                    The offense on the Patriots, Saints, and Green Bay take better advantage of when their defenses do make plays. The Giants offense is playing great. Just need to take advantage better of when the defense does make a stop or TO.[/quote]Just stop. The defense sucks. 4 plays 80 yards? 2 plays 50 yards?

                    LMAO only 2 solid defenders on the Giants right now. JPP and Boley. The rest are pathetic.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Here is what my NON-GMEN Fans Nephews said......

                      [quote user="buddy33"][quote user="gumby742"]Absolutely correct.* No excuse for our bunch of guys - even with injuries.. not to be at least average.* Even 20th is fine.* But dead last?* Unacceptable.* Our collective individual talent is up there with the best defense in the league.[/quote]

                      So injuries are no excuse? Then you say their collective talent is up there? See that's the problem, injuries have taken a lot of talent off the field and they are not dead last. Actually the Patriots are dead last with Green Bay being #31.

                      I've said a few times now that while the offense is playing great they need to take better advantage of what the defense does give them. I know they didn't play great last night, but on the fumble that put the Giants in the red zone they only got a field goal. After they forced a punt late in the game after a JPP sack they didn't move the ball much and punted.

                      The offense on the Patriots, Saints, and Green Bay take better advantage of when their defenses do make plays. The Giants offense is playing great. Just need to take advantage better of when the defense does make a stop or TO.[/quote]Just stop. The defense sucks. 4 plays 80 yards? 2 plays 50 yards?

                      LMAO only 2 solid defenders on the Giants right now. JPP and Boley. The rest are pathetic.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Here is what my NON-GMEN Fans Nephews said......



                        [quote user="buddy33"][quote user="gumby742"]Absolutely correct. No excuse for our bunch of guys - even with injuries.. not to be at least average. Even 20th is fine. But dead last? Unacceptable. Our collective individual talent is up there with the best defense in the league.[/quote] So injuries are no excuse? Then you say their collective talent is up there? See that's the problem, injuries have taken a lot of talent off the field and they are not dead last. Actually the Patriots are dead last with Green Bay being #31. I've said a few times now that while the offense is playing great they need to take better advantage of what the defense does give them. I know they didn't play great last night, but on the fumble that put the Giants in the red zone they only got a field goal. After they forced a punt late in the game after a JPP sack they didn't move the ball much and punted. The offense on the Patriots, Saints, and Green Bay take better advantage of when their defenses do make plays. The Giants offense is playing great. Just need to take advantage better of when the defense does make a stop or TO.[/quote]




                        the O put up 37 points!!! I hear what you are saying but the big picture is the D sucks. Aside from JPP and 2 or 3 other players they cant tackle and they couldn't cover reciever with a broken leg who tripped during his route. I understand injuries but to be dead last and to have the breakdowns they have is just a joke. The big plays are coming on blown assigmnets and blown communication. It happens to all defenses but with the Giants its a few a game. Is that a lack of talent??? Or is it these guys dont trust each other to do their job and are often out of position because they think they have to compensate....




                        "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                        You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                        • #13
                          Re: Here is what my NON-GMEN Fans Nephews said......

                          [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="BlueReign"][quote user="miked1958"]

                          and you know... they actually have a point when i thought about it considering how the Elite teams, Pats, GB, Saints all have no D.




                          So.....My Nephews. Joey a Cowboys fan and Kage a Pats fan both said in texts to me last night (and they were not even together) that if the Giants just had a AVERAGE DEFENSE they would be SERIOUS CONTENDERS for another SB Title. And they both hate the Gmen.




                          Thoughts..................

                          [/quote]
                          We can score with the best of them. But the combination of our lack of quality LBs and terrible soft zone defenses DEMAND that we score 30+ on a weekly basis.
                          [/quote]The Giants were getting torched in Man coverage as well its not just zone.[/quote]
                          Ross was, and prince only got beat once in man. The big play on Prince was in quarters D

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                          • #14
                            Re: Here is what my NON-GMEN Fans Nephews said......

                            i still think the defence can get it together ... i think games like last nite are just so typical ... there is very little talent difference between all the teams

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                            • #15
                              Re: Here is what my NON-GMEN Fans Nephews said......

                              Yes, the Patriots are last in YPG allowed and Green Bay is next to last. GMen are 30th. HOWEVER, the Patriots and Packers are in the middle of the pack in points allowed, giving up 71 and 75 fewer points than our Giants. Add it all up and we truly are one of the 3 or 4 worst defenses in the league. It's an absolute miracle that we won last night. Give the Cowboys 25 seconds more and they'd probably be standing in the end zone.

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