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    Unless Dallas loses to both TB and Philly, we still need another dallas win.




    because of our crappy conference record, we can't afford to go to tiebreaks with dallas.




    i can't see a scenario where we can beat dallas on tiebreaks WITHOUT beating them twice this season.




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    Re: Tiebreakers for the Division

    [quote user="CDN_G-FAN"]


    Unless Dallas loses to both TB and Philly, we still need another dallas win.




    because of our crappy conference record, we can't afford to go to tiebreaks with dallas.




    i can't see a scenario where we can beat dallas on tiebreaks WITHOUT beating them twice this season.







    [/quote]




    it is true. we need to beat dallas twice and Wash once or the jets once...3/4 wins with 2wins coming from dallas.

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    • #3
      Re: Tiebreakers for the Division

      to be honest ....if we cant beat that mediocre Dallas team and the Skins at the Meadowlands ....i dont think we are worthy of the playoffs
      Winter Is Coming .... Go Giants !

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      • #4
        Re: Tiebreakers for the Division



        [quote user="UK-Giantsfan"]to be honest ....if we cant beat that mediocre Dallas team and the Skins at the Meadowlands ....i dont think we are worthy of the playoffs[/quote]




        True. this team needs to stop the scoreboard watching that they have been doing for several weeks now. That win put destiny back in our hands. We win our games we go to the playoffs. dont need to worry about what dallas does, bears, lions or falcons. If we slip up vs skins or jets then like you said we dont deserve to be in playoffs anyway

        Football has been very, very good to us.
        After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
        But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

        # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

        1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
        2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
        3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
        4-New York Giants!!!
        5-NE
        Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

        ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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        • #5
          Re: Tiebreakers for the Division

          [quote user="CDN_G-FAN"]


          Unless Dallas loses to both TB and Philly, we still need another dallas win.




          because of our crappy conference record, we can't afford to go to tiebreaks with dallas.




          i can't see a scenario where we can beat dallas on tiebreaks WITHOUT beating them twice this season.







          [/quote]




          This is absurd. So you are sold 100% that Dallas will win their next two with ease? I think they will lose both games actually. It really is simple Giants win the next two, Dallas loses to Philly, the Giants clinch making the final game irrelevant. The tie breaker that would work in the Giants favor is Common Opponents not conference record. For the divsion tiebreaker it goes:




          Head to Head




          Division Record




          Common Opponents




          Conference record

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          • #6
            Re: Tiebreakers for the Division

            [quote user="repeatchamps"][quote user="CDN_G-FAN"]


            Unless Dallas loses to both TB and Philly, we still need another dallas win.




            because of our crappy conference record, we can't afford to go to tiebreaks with dallas.




            i can't see a scenario where we can beat dallas on tiebreaks WITHOUT beating them twice this season.







            [/quote]




            This is absurd. So you are sold 100% that Dallas will win their next two with ease. I think they will lose both games. It really is simple Giants win the next two, Dallas loses to Philly, the Giants clinch making the final game irrelevant. The tie breaker that would work in the Giants favor is Common Opponents not conference record. For the divsion tiebreaker it goes:




            Head to Head




            Division Record




            Common Opponents




            Conference record




            [/quote]




            the first line of the thread is "unless dallas loses to both philly and TB". i'm not convinced they win two.




            If dallas losesto philly, we win our two, then we're a game up on them going into the final game.




            if dallas wins the final game of the year, we have the same record.




            we split head to head.




            we have identical divisional records.




            we tie common opponents.




            we lose conference record.




            totally absurd.

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            • #7
              Re: Tiebreakers for the Division

              [quote user="CDN_G-FAN"][quote user="repeatchamps"][quote user="CDN_G-FAN"]


              Unless Dallas loses to both TB and Philly, we still need another dallas win.




              because of our crappy conference record, we can't afford to go to tiebreaks with dallas.




              i can't see a scenario where we can beat dallas on tiebreaks WITHOUT beating them twice this season.







              [/quote]




              This is absurd. So you are sold 100% that Dallas will win their next two with ease. I think they will lose both games. It really is simple Giants win the next two, Dallas loses to Philly, the Giants clinch making the final game irrelevant. The tie breaker that would work in the Giants favor is Common Opponents not conference record. For the divsion tiebreaker it goes:




              Head to Head




              Division Record




              Common Opponents




              Conference record




              [/quote]




              the first line of the thread is "unless dallas loses to both philly and TB". i'm not convinced they win two.




              If dallas losesto philly, we win our two, then we're a game up on them going into the final game.




              if dallas wins the final game of the year, we have the same record.




              we split head to head.




              we have identical divisional records.




              we tie common opponents.




              we lose conference record.




              totally absurd.




              [/quote]




              Lol, you are wrong about common opponents. The Giants have the edge. Maybe you need to do your homework.




              Giants would have gone 4-0 against the AFC East. Dallas only 2-2.




              Giants would be 2-2 against the NFC West. Dallas wouldbe 3-1. 6-2 beats 5-3 buddy.

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              • #8
                Re: Tiebreakers for the Division

                [quote user="repeatchamps"][quote user="CDN_G-FAN"][quote user="repeatchamps"][quote user="CDN_G-FAN"]


                Unless Dallas loses to both TB and Philly, we still need another dallas win.




                because of our crappy conference record, we can't afford to go to tiebreaks with dallas.




                i can't see a scenario where we can beat dallas on tiebreaks WITHOUT beating them twice this season.




                *




                [/quote]




                This is absurd. So you are sold 100% that Dallas will win their next two with ease. I think they will lose both games. It really is simple Giants win the next two, Dallas loses to Philly, the Giants clinch making the final game irrelevant. The tie breaker that would work in the Giants favor is Common Opponents not conference record. For the divsion tiebreaker it goes:




                Head to Head




                Division Record




                Common Opponents




                Conference record




                [/quote]




                the first line of the thread is "unless dallas loses to both philly and TB". i'm not convinced they win two.




                If dallas loses**to philly, we win our two, then we're a game up on them going into the final game.




                if dallas wins the final game of the year, we have the same record.




                we split head to head.




                we have identical divisional records.




                we tie common opponents.




                we lose conference record.




                totally absurd.




                [/quote]




                Lol, you are wrong about common opponents. The Giants have the edge. Maybe you need to do your homework.




                Giants would have gone 4-0 against the AFC East. Dallas only 2-2.




                Giants would be 2-2 against the NFC West. Dallas would*be 3-1. 6-2 beats 5-3 buddy.

                [/quote]

                Yeah this is correct. We play identical schedules other than we play NO and GB while Dallas plays TB and DET (and we play each other twice which obviously doesn't matter). Since we're 0-2 in our non-common opponents, and Dallas would be 1-1, if we have the same record we must have a better common opponents record.

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                • #9
                  Re: Tiebreakers for the Division

                  [quote user="jhamburg"][quote user="repeatchamps"][quote user="CDN_G-FAN"][quote user="repeatchamps"][quote user="CDN_G-FAN"]


                  Unless Dallas loses to both TB and Philly, we still need another dallas win.




                  because of our crappy conference record, we can't afford to go to tiebreaks with dallas.




                  i can't see a scenario where we can beat dallas on tiebreaks WITHOUT beating them twice this season.







                  [/quote]




                  This is absurd. So you are sold 100% that Dallas will win their next two with ease. I think they will lose both games. It really is simple Giants win the next two, Dallas loses to Philly, the Giants clinch making the final game irrelevant. The tie breaker that would work in the Giants favor is Common Opponents not conference record. For the divsion tiebreaker it goes:




                  Head to Head




                  Division Record




                  Common Opponents




                  Conference record




                  [/quote]




                  the first line of the thread is "unless dallas loses to both philly and TB". i'm not convinced they win two.




                  If dallas losesto philly, we win our two, then we're a game up on them going into the final game.




                  if dallas wins the final game of the year, we have the same record.




                  we split head to head.




                  we have identical divisional records.




                  we tie common opponents.




                  we lose conference record.




                  totally absurd.




                  [/quote]




                  Lol, you are wrong about common opponents. The Giants have the edge. Maybe you need to do your homework.




                  Giants would have gone 4-0 against the AFC East. Dallas only 2-2.




                  Giants would be 2-2 against the NFC West. Dallas wouldbe 3-1. 6-2 beats 5-3 buddy.




                  [/quote] Yeah this is correct. We play identical schedules other than we play NO and GB while Dallas plays TB and DET (and we play each other twice which obviously doesn't matter). Since we're 0-2 in our non-common opponents, and Dallas would be 1-1, if we have the same record we must have a better common opponents record.[/quote]




                  Yup proof:




                  http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffs...40&16=00400000

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                  • #10
                    Re: Tiebreakers for the Division

                    [quote user="repeatchamps"][quote user="CDN_G-FAN"][quote user="repeatchamps"][quote user="CDN_G-FAN"]


                    Unless Dallas loses to both TB and Philly, we still need another dallas win.




                    because of our crappy conference record, we can't afford to go to tiebreaks with dallas.




                    i can't see a scenario where we can beat dallas on tiebreaks WITHOUT beating them twice this season.







                    [/quote]




                    This is absurd. So you are sold 100% that Dallas will win their next two with ease. I think they will lose both games. It really is simple Giants win the next two, Dallas loses to Philly, the Giants clinch making the final game irrelevant. The tie breaker that would work in the Giants favor is Common Opponents not conference record. For the divsion tiebreaker it goes:




                    Head to Head




                    Division Record




                    Common Opponents




                    Conference record




                    [/quote]




                    the first line of the thread is "unless dallas loses to both philly and TB". i'm not convinced they win two.




                    If dallas losesto philly, we win our two, then we're a game up on them going into the final game.




                    if dallas wins the final game of the year, we have the same record.




                    we split head to head.




                    we have identical divisional records.




                    we tie common opponents.




                    we lose conference record.




                    totally absurd.




                    [/quote]




                    Lol, you are wrong about common opponents. The Giants have the edge. Maybe you need to do your homework.




                    Giants would have gone 4-0 against the AFC East. Dallas only 2-2.




                    Giants would be 2-2 against the NFC West. Dallas wouldbe 3-1. 6-2 beats 5-3 buddy.




                    [/quote]




                    you're totally right.




                    my bad.




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                    • #11
                      Re: Tiebreakers for the Division

                      [quote user="CDN_G-FAN"][quote user="repeatchamps"][quote user="CDN_G-FAN"][quote user="repeatchamps"][quote user="CDN_G-FAN"]


                      Unless Dallas loses to both TB and Philly, we still need another dallas win.




                      because of our crappy conference record, we can't afford to go to tiebreaks with dallas.




                      i can't see a scenario where we can beat dallas on tiebreaks WITHOUT beating them twice this season.







                      [/quote]




                      This is absurd. So you are sold 100% that Dallas will win their next two with ease. I think they will lose both games. It really is simple Giants win the next two, Dallas loses to Philly, the Giants clinch making the final game irrelevant. The tie breaker that would work in the Giants favor is Common Opponents not conference record. For the divsion tiebreaker it goes:




                      Head to Head




                      Division Record




                      Common Opponents




                      Conference record




                      [/quote]




                      the first line of the thread is "unless dallas loses to both philly and TB". i'm not convinced they win two.




                      If dallas losesto philly, we win our two, then we're a game up on them going into the final game.




                      if dallas wins the final game of the year, we have the same record.




                      we split head to head.




                      we have identical divisional records.




                      we tie common opponents.




                      we lose conference record.




                      totally absurd.




                      [/quote]




                      Lol, you are wrong about common opponents. The Giants have the edge. Maybe you need to do your homework.




                      Giants would have gone 4-0 against the AFC East. Dallas only 2-2.




                      Giants would be 2-2 against the NFC West. Dallas wouldbe 3-1. 6-2 beats 5-3 buddy.




                      [/quote]




                      you're totally right.




                      my bad.







                      [/quote]




                      It's all good. Use the playoff scenario thing on yahoo that I linked. It is a helpful tool and kind of fun to play around with.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Tiebreakers for the Division

                        i think if Dallas loses to philly and we beat Wash and Jets, we are in. but if Dallas loses to Bucs and beats philly, we have to win the last game.. that is what the ESPN simulator says anyway. edit, yeah i guess since we lost to wash that would give them better division record

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                        • #13
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                          The possibilities are crazy at this point.

                          There is a decent chance that the last game could determine both division winner and a wild card spot going to the loser.

                          Waaaay many variable as this point.
                          Every single day I log onto this message board thinking i've seen it all, every single day I am wrong...NYGiants2120

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                          • #14
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                            [quote user="Delicreep"]The possibilities are crazy at this point.

                            There is a decent chance that the last game could determine both division winner and a wild card spot going to the loser.

                            Waaaay many variable as this point.[/quote]
                            NFC east sucks this year, and its a shame, because it was the most feared, respected division in the NFL. I think NO wild card comes out of NFC east. Either you win the division, or play golf.
                            I miss Red Hook

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                            • #15
                              Re: Tiebreakers for the Division

                              [quote user="CDN_G-FAN"]

                              Unless Dallas loses to both TB and Philly, we still need another dallas win.




                              because of our crappy conference record, we can't afford to go to tiebreaks with dallas.




                              i can't see a scenario where we can beat dallas on tiebreaks WITHOUT beating them twice this season.




                              *

                              [/quote]

                              Yes, it's looking like NFC East or bust.....wildcards are also stacked against us. Have to win in the Meadowlands.

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