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    Osi is garbage...Tuck no where to found today either....How can anyone think these guys are so great?..Tuck is physically just shot...Osi was never all that anyway. Stalemated every time today...Made a name off of Winston ....Give the rookie a chance ...couldnt be worse..

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    Invisible for two weeks, both of them!
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    • #3
      yeah I am a tad concerned about our pass rush so far. That has been our strength the passed several years. With our secondary banged up and thin, we need that front line to improve over the coming weeks.

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      • #4
        How can anyone think these guys are great??!??!!?! let there season records talk for themselves. I understand the frustration though. They need to re evaluate there game. They've been ghosts for two weeks now. I don't know if it's age or what.. I don't know if tuck is really into it anymore.
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        • #5
          The DE position is a lot more than getting sacks. Tuck has been in there to stuff the run quite a bit. Osi, not so much, but sacks are only a part of playing DE. Besides, JPP is doing enough on his own to cover all 3 of them
          The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd - Bertrand Russell

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ALLnygIN View Post
            How can anyone think these guys are great??!??!!?! let there season records talk for themselves. I understand the frustration though. They need to re evaluate there game. They've been ghosts for two weeks now. I don't know if it's age or what.. I don't know if tuck is really into it anymore.
            Tuck had a few good years but physically I think he is shot...maybe mentally too...Osi has made a name by beating up on mediocre lineman...Never found in a big game or crunch time...Not saying never, but very very rare...Always struggles with decent tackles..Just tired of hearing how great he is,but he really isnt.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by nhpgiantsfan View Post
              Invisible for two weeks, both of them!
              Give them some time
              Football has been very, very good to us.
              After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
              But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

              # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

              1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
              2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
              3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
              4-New York Giants!!!
              5-NE
              Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

              ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Die-Hard View Post
                The DE position is a lot more than getting sacks. Tuck has been in there to stuff the run quite a bit. Osi, not so much, but sacks are only a part of playing DE. Besides, JPP is doing enough on his own to cover all 3 of them
                Oh I know that..But Osi could never play the run...Tuck was a beast at one time,but I really think he is physically and mentally shot....

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                • #9
                  there's another game coming up on Thursday, they're leaders with a lot of pelts on the wall, I think they'll show up

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by I Hate T.O. View Post
                    Oh I know that..But Osi could never play the run...Tuck was a beast at one time,but I really think he is physically and mentally shot....
                    Nah, I think he's just having a slow start. He'll come around. The guy has been double teamed for most of his career, and he's bound to wear down a little bit. Osi never was good against the run. No argument there.
                    The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd - Bertrand Russell

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                    • #11
                      Anybody ever think it may be the schemes rather than the players? Tampa D is a lot better this year. Sheridan?????? It'll be interesting to see what D shows up next week. Hopefully the two aforementioned guys (Tuck,Osi) play a little better! And, I agree with an earlier post, "Why not put the rookie in for a few plays"?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by I Hate T.O. View Post
                        Osi is garbage...Tuck no where to found today either....How can anyone think these guys are so great?..Tuck is physically just shot...Osi was never all that anyway. Stalemated every time today...Made a name off of Winston ....Give the rookie a chance ...couldnt be worse..
                        Unfortunately, you are absolutely correct with your take. These two have done nothing in their first two games. Tuck's name was called once today and that was for an offsides call. Osi was too busy spinning totally out of plays. I expect more from both of these guys, especially Osi, who is playing for his next and last huge payday.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Die-Hard View Post
                          The DE position is a lot more than getting sacks. Tuck has been in there to stuff the run quite a bit. Osi, not so much, but sacks are only a part of playing DE. Besides, JPP is doing enough on his own to cover all 3 of them
                          Sacks are indeed an overrated stat, but these two guys aren't even getting tackles or that many QB pressures. What's up with that?

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                          • #14
                            Bucs had a lot of max protection, so I give them a pass this game

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                            • #15
                              MAYBE A TRADE CAN BE MADE 2 FOR 1 OR SOMETHING?

                              Originally posted by I Hate T.O. View Post
                              Osi is garbage...Tuck no where to found today either....How can anyone think these guys are so great?..Tuck is physically just shot...Osi was never all that anyway. Stalemated every time today...Made a name off of Winston ....Give the rookie a chance ...couldnt be worse..
                              IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THEY NEED RB HELP WHY NOT TRADE OSI & TUCK FOR A TRUE #1 RB OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SINCE THEY'VE PASSED THEIR PRIME.

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