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  • Coughlin's terrible clock management cost us this game!

    He took both timeouts when the Eagles had the ball on the OTHER SIDE of the two minute warning instead of taking them both before the two minute warning.

    Cost us an additional 15-20 seconds which we could have used to run 1 more play, get a little bit closer and make a closer field goal.

    Anyone with even half a brain who has played Madden once or twice in their lives knows you use the timeouts BEFORE the two minute warning in a goal line situation and not AFTER the two minute warning.

    Terrible clock management cost us this game more than the passing interference.

    Put the blame where it belongs folks!

  • #2
    I can blame a lot and clock management sure isn't on the first page.

    Wait - you're using Madden rationale?


    Leaving room

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    • #3
      Not Madden rationale.......I'm stating that anyone who has even a basic understanding of football, even if it just comes from having played Madden a couple times, understands you take your timeouts BEFORE the two minute warning.

      You entirely missed the point. Please don't "enter the room" again because you aren't bringing much into it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by shockeyisjesus View Post
        He took both timeouts when the Eagles had the ball on the OTHER SIDE of the two minute warning instead of taking them both before the two minute warning.

        Cost us an additional 15-20 seconds which we could have used to run 1 more play, get a little bit closer and make a closer field goal.

        Anyone with even half a brain who has played Madden once or twice in their lives knows you use the timeouts BEFORE the two minute warning in a goal line situation and not AFTER the two minute warning.

        Terrible clock management cost us this game more than the passing interference.

        Put the blame where it belongs folks!
        Einstein, he had time for one more play, chose not to take it, just a bad call on the PI to Barden, after hearing Eli after the game that was all on him, he liked the match up and put the ball in a bad spot, still no excuse for not trying a quick out wth 15 to go to get another 5 yards,
        Last edited by Joe Morrison; 10-01-2012, 01:52 AM. Reason: typo
        Forget the Past, Live for the Future!

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        • #5
          Not Einstein, nothing you said has anything at all to do with my point which is that if he had used our timeouts properly, by calling them BEFORE the two minute warning, we would have had 15 or so extra seconds to run 1 more play on third down and 19.....

          Now there is no guarantee we would have completed a pass if we had of, but we at least could have taken a shot and then lined up to kick a field goal before time expired which we couldn't guarantee doing wit 15 seconds left on the clock.

          It was terrible clock management. Some of our fans lack of football knowledge is rather frightening.

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          • #6
            So you would have rather they didn't call TO's and ran the clock down to well under a minute?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by shockeyisjesus View Post
              Not Einstein, nothing you said has anything at all to do with my point which is that if he had used our timeouts properly, by calling them BEFORE the two minute warning, we would have had 15 or so extra seconds to run 1 more play on third down and 19.....

              Now there is no guarantee we would have completed a pass if we had of, but we at least could have taken a shot and then lined up to kick a field goal before time expired which we couldn't guarantee doing wit 15 seconds left on the clock.

              It was terrible clock management. Some of our fans lack of football knowledge is rather frightening.
              Without going back and looking at the tape I think at the most they only lost 8 seconds by waiting for the 2 minute warning, either way, bad call going deep, wussy call not trying a quick one with 15 seconds to go.
              Forget the Past, Live for the Future!

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              • #8
                I though it was the wrong call too, but in retrospect it was the right call not to call the TO before the two minute. we got the ball back with just under two minutes. Plenty of time. All we needed was the FG. If we burn the TO score too early Philly gets the ball back with two TO. It is on the players not the coaches. Poor execution and tough loss all round. We are all used to winning those

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by shockeyisjesus View Post
                  Not Einstein, nothing you said has anything at all to do with my point which is that if he had used our timeouts properly, by calling them BEFORE the two minute warning, we would have had 15 or so extra seconds to run 1 more play on third down and 19.....

                  Now there is no guarantee we would have completed a pass if we had of, but we at least could have taken a shot and then lined up to kick a field goal before time expired which we couldn't guarantee doing wit 15 seconds left on the clock.

                  It was terrible clock management. Some of our fans lack of football knowledge is rather frightening.
                  So what your saying is you want to rush out the field goal unit in 15-20 seconds, set up and kick a 54 yard field goal?!?!? Come on man....

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                  • #10
                    Holy cow some of you have no freaking clue what you are talking about. I just lost 25 iq points reading some of these responses.

                    Try and use and shred of critical thinking skills here BEFORE you post.

                    We DIDN'T use the timeouts before the two minute warning. We did use them BOTH, aftewards.

                    Here is the play by play from ESPN: http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playby...30021&period=4

                    We let the clock run down to the two minute warning. We called our second timeout at 1:57 and third at 1:52. Then they had to kick the FG.

                    If we use both timeouts BEFORE the two minute warning, there is a very good chance we could have gotten the ball back with at the very least a FULL two minutes but possibly even 2:03-2:05.

                    So at the very least, 8 extra seconds. More than likely 10-15 extra seconds

                    AT THE VERY LEAST.

                    Tack that onto the 15 seconds that were already on the clock. That gives us time to run a short play for an extra 4 or 5 yards and have the FG team ready to sprint onto the field and lineup for a 45-47 yarder instead of a 54 yarder.

                    Hypothetical for sure but what's not hypothetical is that he USED THE CLOCK POORLY by not calling the timeouts on the right side of the two minute warning.

                    Man are there some amateur posters on this site.

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                    • #11
                      Not really. I liked how he handled the time outs...hated everything else...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by shockeyisjesus View Post
                        Holy cow some of you have no freaking clue what you are talking about. I just lost 25 iq points reading some of these responses.

                        Try and use and shred of critical thinking skills here BEFORE you post.

                        We DIDN'T use the timeouts before the two minute warning. We did use them BOTH, aftewards.

                        Here is the play by play from ESPN: http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playby...30021&period=4

                        We let the clock run down to the two minute warning. We called our second timeout at 1:57 and third at 1:52. Then they had to kick the FG.

                        If we use both timeouts BEFORE the two minute warning, there is a very good chance we could have gotten the ball back with at the very least a FULL two minutes but possibly even 2:03-2:05.

                        So at the very least, 8 extra seconds. More than likely 10-15 extra seconds

                        AT THE VERY LEAST.

                        Tack that onto the 15 seconds that were already on the clock. That gives us time to run a short play for an extra 4 or 5 yards and have the FG team ready to sprint onto the field and lineup for a 45-47 yarder instead of a 54 yarder.

                        Hypothetical for sure but what's not hypothetical is that he USED THE CLOCK POORLY by not calling the timeouts on the right side of the two minute warning.

                        Man are there some amateur posters on this site.
                        You are assuming that Eli is not going to try that pass, you can't do that, that's why they play the came and we watch the games, just click rewind on your Madden game and try agian, doesn't work that way in the real world.
                        Forget the Past, Live for the Future!

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                        • #13
                          The bottom line is its a decison that shoulden't even go through ur mind, ever.. The fact that its even a possiblity for ur QB to throw a deep one to the endzone when there in prime Winning the game FG range.. And when the CB is Nhamdi and he has solid positoning on the much inexpierenced barden, it makes it even more crazy!


                          That play was flat out stupid.. Eli is awesome, but lets be real.. That was just Stupid, and there is no other way to put it...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Joe Morrison View Post
                            You are assuming that Eli is not going to try that pass, you can't do that, that's why they play the came and we watch the games, just click rewind on your Madden game and try agian, doesn't work that way in the real world.
                            You have no real understanding of football.......Madden logic isn't being used here, it was simply a statement to say that anyone with even a modicum of football intelligence should understand that Coughlin mismanaged the clock. Congrats on not being among that group.

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                            • #15
                              1:54 to get a field goal is plenty of time, TC did the right thing, it was up to the offense to move the ball and get them in range. It simply didn't happen. Unbelievable, Madden.....

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