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    our idiot, uninformed fans are blaming Eli for choosing to throw downfield when everyone else was double covered; but, no one is talking about the horrible decision to run in order to run the clock down. That was a great call from the sideline.

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    Originally posted by giantfan1976 View Post
    our idiot, uninformed fans are blaming Eli for choosing to throw downfield when everyone else was double covered; but, no one is talking about the horrible decision to run in order to run the clock down. That was a great call from the sideline.
    he could have thrown it away... we were already in FG range... then again, can't make up for Barden being terrible...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
      he could have thrown it away... we were already in FG range... then again, can't make up for Barden being terrible...
      He could have. But why not throw it where the tall guy can get it. NA wasn't going to get that ball... he didn't have to interfere with the CB. You can't play assuming the worst thing possible will happen. That's what they did on the last call when they had L Tynes kick a field goal that EVERYONE knew was out of his range. They assumed that any completion would be tackled in the field of play. We saw where that got us.

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      • #4
        15 seconds no timeout, if the run play takes 4 seconds then its very close to rushing to the line to get a spike in

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        • #5
          1976 just realize that Eli likes those jump balls and sometimes it works and he gets the grab or PI call and sometimes it doesnt. i never liked it but that is eli's style as you say giving the rec a chance.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Harooni View Post
            15 seconds no timeout, if the run play takes 4 seconds then its very close to rushing to the line to get a spike in
            The spike isn't in play... unless you get the first down. The only play is to the sidelines. But, when you have one of the best QBs in the game, you've got to let him try to get it. Everyone knew that was out of Tynes' range. We had a better chance statistically with a hail mary.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by giantfan1976 View Post
              He could have. But why not throw it where the tall guy can get it. NA wasn't going to get that ball... he didn't have to interfere with the CB. You can't play assuming the worst thing possible will happen. That's what they did on the last call when they had L Tynes kick a field goal that EVERYONE knew was out of his range. They assumed that any completion would be tackled in the field of play. We saw where that got us.
              If Barden doesn't interfere with NA that's almost definitly a pick. Sometimes you just have to know when to throw it away. Eli made up his mind as soon as he saw single coverage to throw it up to Barden, unfortunately he wasn't open. That's just poor situational football. You have to know that you're already in FG range and that protecting the ball should have been paramount.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by giantfan1976 View Post
                our idiot, uninformed fans are blaming Eli for choosing to throw downfield when everyone else was double covered; but, no one is talking about the horrible decision to run in order to run the clock down. That was a great call from the sideline.
                Dude..are you nuts? Going for a TD for what reason? We only needed the FG to win it! Throwing that ball was just plain idiotic after 2 gift wrapped PI calls on Philthy put us in winning FG range. They needed only to run twice, pick up what they could and set Tynes up in the middle of the field.
                I don't blame Eli for the pass because it wasn't his call....same with the INT in the endzone earlier. Gilbride is a pass happy moron in the red Zone!
                Last edited by bigblue58; 10-01-2012, 12:55 AM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by giantfan1976 View Post
                  The spike isn't in play... unless you get the first down. The only play is to the sidelines. But, when you have one of the best QBs in the game, you've got to let him try to get it. Everyone knew that was out of Tynes' range. We had a better chance statistically with a hail mary.
                  it wasnt 3rd down was it?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                    1976 just realize that Eli likes those jump balls and sometimes it works and he gets the grab or PI call and sometimes it doesnt. i never liked it but that is eli's style as you say giving the rec a chance.
                    Harooni, I realize you're not a fan of Eli... never have been. I give you credit for laying low for the past few years. But when the guy is the only player you have, you've got to give him the ball. He threw for 309 yards with that "tossing it up to the receivers" strategy and Barden beat NA all day. It was the right play and Barden made a stupid mistake. If anyone has a problem with Eli, it should be the INT... but he was still the only reason NY was in the game.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                      it wasnt 3rd down was it?
                      Yeah... Third and 15 or 19... I don't remember. But if you run a short play you won't be able to spike the ball.

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                      • #12
                        If you want to blame the offense for anything, blame them for yet another slow start. Why it takes them about 2 quarters to actually get it going is beyond me. In the first quarter alone we had starting field position near midfield twice and got nothing to show for it.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                          it wasnt 3rd down was it?
                          Barden's PI was on 3rd and 9. Spike was not an option this time. The first and second down plays were awful and the Barden play was super awful. 100% on the coaches for terrible management after the 2nd PI on Philly.
                          Last edited by repeatchamps; 10-01-2012, 01:01 AM.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by giantfan1976 View Post
                            The spike isn't in play... unless you get the first down. The only play is to the sidelines. But, when you have one of the best QBs in the game, you've got to let him try to get it. Everyone knew that was out of Tynes' range. We had a better chance statistically with a hail mary.
                            Out of Tynes range? it was only a 39yd FG before Barden's Offensive PI backed them up 15 yds turning it into a 54 yd attempt!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bigblue58 View Post
                              Dude..are you nuts? Going for a TD for what reason? We only needed the FG to win it! Throwing that ball was just plain idiotic after 2 gift wrapped PI calls on Philthy put us in winning FG range. They needed only to run twice, pick up what they could and set Tynes up in the middle of the field.
                              I don't blame Eli for the pass because it wasn't his call....same with the INT in the endzone earlier. Gilbride is a pass happy moron in the red Zone!
                              bigblue58: If only post count meant something where football sense is concerned... unfortunately, from those on this thread, it shows that it really doesn't. You're all over Gilbride for the calls. You do realize that Eli goes to the line with two pass plays and a running play that he gets to determine based on the defense. And the running play can be switched to go to the other side of the field... so that equals a total of 4 plays that Eli determines. Beyond that, on the passing plays, there are normally at least three routes that the receivers/TE/RB run. Eli has a few options on every play. This isn't sandlot ball where Gilbride tells Eli which man to which the ball should be throw. Eli went with what WORKED ALL DAY. I didn't say going for the TD was the right call. I've been saying that LT is not dependable from beyond 40 yards and because Barden beat NA all day (or was getting flags thrown when he didn't) it was the right decision. So, no, I'm not nuts.

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