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  • What Tom Coughlin left unsaid: Manning made a costly blunder

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/02/sp...=football&_r=0

    Excerpt: "Here was Tom Coughlin as the dedicated father figure to the quarterback who doubles as his football son, covering for Eli Manning, who has taken him to the peak of twoSuper Bowl mountains and provided him with legitimate Hall of Fame coaching credentials.

    Coughlin is not an easy man to be around, much less live with, after any loss and especially after one as exasperating as the 19-17 defeat by the Eagles on Sunday night at Lincoln Financial Field. His son-in-law, Chris Snee, may anchor his offensive line, but Manning is the Giant whom Coughlin will forever be tethered to and the one he eternally trusts.

    Manning has been there for him since the beginning in 2004, and for the last 134 games as the starter, and more recently as perhaps the N.F.L.’s premier closer." Read more...
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

  • #2
    Coughlin made a bigger one by not running Brown and spiking the ball in the middle of the field around the 25. That was a blunder of epic proportion.

    As a matter of fact not running Brown all night.......someone sited Browns low per carry average for his 5 appearances but failed to point out the opponents knew eveytime he came in he was getting the ball

    WE DID NOT NEED A TD TO WIN...........what was he thinking?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BParcells777 View Post
      Coughlin made a bigger one by not running Brown and spiking the ball in the middle of the field around the 25. That was a blunder of epic proportion.

      As a matter of fact not running Brown all night.......someone sited Browns low per carry average for his 5 appearances but failed to point out the opponents knew eveytime he came in he was getting the ball

      WE DID NOT NEED A TD TO WIN...........what was he thinking?
      They could only spike the b all of they made a first down. Given how poorly we were running ,would you really have called a run there? Seriously? The pass to Barden was not the only option. That was the option Eli felt more comfortable and it didn't work out. We move on.
      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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      • #4
        I think he was talking about the 2nd down throw, not the 3rd down one... you can run on 2nd down and spike on 3rd...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
          I think he was talking about the 2nd down throw, not the 3rd down one... you can run on 2nd down and spike on 3rd...
          Thanks, I get confused a lot. Still, Barden's penalty took us out of realistic range. I'm not faulting him because it would have likely been an interception. We played hard but came up short. The team lost the game. It's done, we move on to the Browns.
          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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          • #6
            Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
            They could only spike the b all of they made a first down. Given how poorly we were running ,would you really have called a run there? Seriously? The pass to Barden was not the only option. That was the option Eli felt more comfortable and it didn't work out. We move on.
            I agree with that
            We will likely be tied again atop the NFC East week..........we never do anything easy
            We always have to do it the hard way............how about that kid Wilson?.......big time bright spot

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            • #7
              Or maybe the offense shouldn't have wasted a timeout earlier in the half.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BParcells777 View Post
                I agree with that
                We will likely be tied again atop the NFC East week..........we never do anything easy
                We always have to do it the hard way............how about that kid Wilson?.......big time bright spot
                Wilson's returns could very well be the reason we win games. We haven't had a kick returner like him in forever
                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                  Thanks, I get confused a lot. Still, Barden's penalty took us out of realistic range. I'm not faulting him because it would have likely been an interception. We played hard but came up short. The team lost the game. It's done, we move on to the Browns.
                  That was a good game (not perfect) from both teams. Yes. Barden did prevent an INT so it's not really his fault. The running play was a waste and the RB didn't even center the ball for the kicker. Giants are lucky to be even be in a spot to win that game. The INT in the endzone was a killer. Hixon broke up another likely INT in the endzone earlier as well. David Wilson muffed a shovel pass and that was it for his RB role for the rest of the game. He did great on kick-offs, but that usually means the Eagles scored right before. Gotta take it out on the Browns, but that should be a game where the team should try to get a big lead and put in the backups. Of course, it'll be more likely that game maybe close.

                  And come on now, who that were watching on TV prematurely celebrated that Tynes FG before it went short cause that looked good just didn't have the distance.
                  Last edited by BigBlueAllDay; 10-01-2012, 08:57 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BParcells777 View Post
                    Coughlin made a bigger one by not running Brown and spiking the ball in the middle of the field around the 25. That was a blunder of epic proportion.

                    As a matter of fact not running Brown all night.......someone sited Browns low per carry average for his 5 appearances but failed to point out the opponents knew eveytime he came in he was getting the ball

                    WE DID NOT NEED A TD TO WIN...........what was he thinking?
                    What are you basing this on - that the D knew Brown was getting the ball? That he was stopped?

                    Its already starting... if Brown doesnt do what he did against Carolina... the excuses start.... if he doesnt do it again, they will feed on him and ask to start Wilson.

                    CAROLINA HAS AN AWFUL RUN D LETTING UP 135 YDS A GAME!

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                    • #11
                      I'm pretty sure it was Barden that manhandled the DB drawing a OPI and bumping what would of been an easy FG back 10 yards

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ELI_Iz_God View Post
                        I'm pretty sure it was Barden that manhandled the DB drawing a OPI and bumping what would of been an easy FG back 10 yards
                        True... however had he not done that, it was very likely an int, game over
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BigBlueAllDay View Post
                          That was a good game (not perfect) from both teams. Yes. Barden did prevent an INT so it's not really his fault. The running play was a waste and the RB didn't even center the ball for the kicker. Giants are lucky to be even be in a spot to win that game. The INT in the endzone was a killer. Hixon broke up another likely INT in the endzone earlier as well. David Wilson muffed a shovel pass and that was it for his RB role for the rest of the game. He did great on kick-offs, but that usually means the Eagles scored right before. Gotta take it out on the Browns, but that should be a game where the team should try to get a big lead and put in the backups. Of course, it'll be more likely that game maybe close.
                          I think we played well enough to win even with all of the mistakes. I'm still confused about the DE production falling off but hopefully we get that on track soon.

                          If we learn from games we lose we can adapt and play better next game.
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                          • #14
                            If Coughlin was so worried about an interception, then why did Eli still throw another one to Hixon? That's what made it 3rd down.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ELI_Iz_God View Post
                              I'm pretty sure it was Barden that manhandled the DB drawing a OPI and bumping what would of been an easy FG back 10 yards
                              Yes, but the only likely option was an interception. He did what he ad to do.
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