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    Killdrive is notorious for both assessing talent and creativity. If it wasn't for injuries Cruz would be on the practice squad. This guys isn't cut for the job...not once was jernigan in the game to set up a potential short yardage pass attack that would have completely changed the structure of the linebacking CB corp. It would have assisted in the run game. Killdrive is not an elite OC, the talent he has backing him up has gotten him thus far.


    AND ... is it me or did OSI just commit highway robbery and rob the giants .. this dude is not the same, he's slow, a coward to say the least in never ever attempting a bull rush...he is a major liability on the field...why not play some of the younger guys like tracy and Ojomo - clearly both are far superior to OSI.

    Can't believe Resse fell for this guys gimmicks!!

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    Osi is dead to me. Im being dead serious. The guy belongs on the Jets, or worse, the Raiders or Cowboys.

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    • #3
      I don't know. I use to be a KG hater but as time pass, some other posters got to me. If you look at the other OCs, there are some of the best who had troubles once in a while and some of those even lost jobs cause of lack performance by their players. Yet KG's offense has been in the top ten for years and still has been with the team. Now he could maybe do better but then again, you have to work with the basics. If the basics don't work, then it can be dangerous to be creative. Another reason why it can be hard is cause we still keep gettint these injuries. A lot of times it does take time to learn things.


      Yet I still make my case that we should throw screens here and there and so on more but our offense is still productive.

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      • #4
        Gilbride sucks against the Eagles. I don't know the reason why he insists on tailoring his gameplan to go after the strength of the Philly defense. But he does. And then the Giants lose.

        But against other teams, he's okay.
        "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

        "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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        • #5
          I think this offense is exciting and to me that means it is fine....I love the big plays, the only thing that needs to happen is Bradshaw has to step up and start running effectively again...
          sigpicShould the Giants fire Gilbride....

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONL7L...yer_detailpage

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          • #6
            I never fall for Osi's gimicks cause I know what type of player he is. He is more of a finess player and that does not work well with DE's cause he uses moves that can take himself out of players like he did against the Egals. Yet we also have to look at the simple fact that we hardly get any blitzes. Spags don't have the talent where he is at now and our team suites his style of plays. When he went away, the blitzes were not that good.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by joemorrisforprez View Post
              Gilbride sucks against the Eagles. I don't know the reason why he insists on tailoring his gameplan to go after the strength of the Philly defense. But he does. And then the Giants lose.

              But against other teams, he's okay.
              Maybe he takes the approach of "let's do what we do and make the defense adjust to us (and not the other way around)"?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bigblue999 View Post
                Killdrive is notorious for both assessing talent and creativity. If it wasn't for injuries Cruz would be on the practice squad. This guys isn't cut for the job...not once was jernigan in the game to set up a potential short yardage pass attack that would have completely changed the structure of the linebacking CB corp. It would have assisted in the run game. Killdrive is not an elite OC, the talent he has backing him up has gotten him thus far.


                AND ... is it me or did OSI just commit highway robbery and rob the giants .. this dude is not the same, he's slow, a coward to say the least in never ever attempting a bull rush...he is a major liability on the field...why not play some of the younger guys like tracy and Ojomo - clearly both are far superior to OSI.

                Can't believe Resse fell for this guys gimmicks!!

                When was Cruz on the practice squad?
                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Eliscruzzz View Post
                  I think this offense is exciting and to me that means it is fine....I love the big plays, the only thing that needs to happen is Bradshaw has to step up and start running effectively again...
                  +1 I thought that 4 & 1 pass to Cruz was genious gone to seed. I thought Cruz was faster than he showed on that play. It had TD written all over it but he got caught from behind on the 10 & then the next play INTERCEPTION... GAME OVER.

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                  • #10
                    Was it really that bad? We put up 17 points on a tough defense, it could have easily been 20 or 24 points had we not made the costly turnover in the redzone. Against better teams you can't make critical mistakes like that and not expect it to haunt you later in the game.

                    Running well is all about toughness and attitude up front.


                    “Basically just stay with your man,” cornerback Janoris Jenkins said. “Follow him everywhere you go. Even if he goes to the bathroom, follow him.”

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                      When was Cruz on the practice squad?
                      Never.


                      “Basically just stay with your man,” cornerback Janoris Jenkins said. “Follow him everywhere you go. Even if he goes to the bathroom, follow him.”

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bigblue999 View Post
                        If it wasn't for injuries Cruz would be on the practice squad.
                        That's not true at all. He would have never cleared waivers, someone would have picked him up. Back in 2010 the decision was made by the staff to not waive him, so clearly they had a good feeling about him.


                        “Basically just stay with your man,” cornerback Janoris Jenkins said. “Follow him everywhere you go. Even if he goes to the bathroom, follow him.”

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CowboysSuck View Post
                          Osi is dead to me. Im being dead serious. The guy belongs on the Jets, or worse, the Raiders or Cowboys.
                          Osi is getting a lot of unfair flack from many people. All our DE aren't playing up their potential. I think it is due to our non-existent Defensive Tackles. I do agree that when Osi gets sack happy, he can make a ton of mental mistakes. Osi is really fast for DE. I just think we he is drunk off of sacks he puts himself in bad position to make plays on running backs. Screen passes and delayed hand offs confuse the guy. CDN_G-MEN said it best. The guy runs around like a 4 yr old chasing soccer ball. I agree with it. When McCoy was running past him with the ball while trying to sack Vick, you could see that look on his face like "Uh ohh, I did it again". The guy needs a mental coach.
                          Reese, gone. Check! Bench McAdoo Doo, gone. Check! Let's Giants 2018.

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                          • #14
                            I think the offense is creative. Gilbride isn't as conservative as he was 5 yrs ago. The Giants offense is more open now than it probably has been in its history. I haven't seen a Giants offense that is pass oriented as it is now in all my years of watching football. It is exciting.
                            Reese, gone. Check! Bench McAdoo Doo, gone. Check! Let's Giants 2018.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by yoeddy View Post
                              Maybe he takes the approach of "let's do what we do and make the defense adjust to us (and not the other way around)"?
                              I'd much prefer that he analyze and attack a team's weakness. The best approach would have been to run the ball up the gut using Hynoski and Brown.

                              Another approach would have been to go uptempo, negating Philly's ability to rotate in fresh linemen.

                              There were times in the game that the Giants did run up the middle, and it worked.....unfortunately, they didn't stick with it.

                              I love the fact that the Giants have big play offense that can score points fast if needed. But in the case of the Eagles, the Giants had the advantage of size..... but instead of a ground game to exploit that size advantage, they decided to go with a passing game, which played to Philly's strength. The results were what I expected.


                              Against other teams, Gilbride is good....sometimes he's great. But against the Eagles, he just ****s the bed...... the most notable time being the 2008 playoffs, when on paper, the Eagles had no business being in the game, much less beating the Giants.

                              I knew the Giants would lose if Bradshaw got the start and the workload.....so I wasn't surprised at all.

                              I've come to accept it. I'll take playoff wins over Eagles wins, if I have to choose.

                              But watch the Steelers game next week.....I guarantee you the Steeler are going to pound the ball inside against the Wide Nine, and then that will open them up for some big play-action passes.

                              Steelers are going to beat the Eagles with the gameplan the Giants didn't use.
                              Last edited by joemorrisforprez; 10-02-2012, 04:41 PM.
                              "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

                              "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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