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    Giants' Andre Brown can run, but he can't block

    Excerpt: "The Giants planned that running backs Ahmad Bradshaw and Andre Brown would split the snaps, and carries, at about 50/50 last week against the Philadelphia Eagles.

    But Bradshaw played 58 of the 68 offensive snaps. Brown was in on just nine and had five carries for 14 yards.

    On Thursday, offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride gave the simple answer: The Giants don’t trust Brown enough in pass protection, and they had been forced to throw more than they had planned.

    Brown knows that’s the case and is looking to improve as a pass blocker." Read more..


    Kenny Phillips, Rocky Bernard, Ramses Barden ruled out for Browns' game

    Excerpt: "The Giants will be without two starting defensive players -- DT Rocky Bernard (quadricep) and S Kenny Phillips (knee) -- as well as WR Ramses Barden (concussion) for this week's game against the Browns.

    Receiver Hakeem Nicks had already been ruled out with foot and knee injuries. CB Jayron Hosley (hamstring) is also out." Read more...

    Giants waiting to see if Trent Richardson can back up talk

    Excerpt: "The 71-word answer had already circulated through the Giants defense less than 24 hours after Browns rookie running back spewed it Thursday.

    "Oh yeah," was how Richardson began his response when asked if the Browns could find success on the ground around the edge against the Giants defense Sunday on a conference call with reporters.

    Richardson, based on the Giants' performance last week against LeSean McCoy and the Eagles, may have good reason to be confident.

    The Giants are waiting to see if he'll back it up." Read more...

    Like the Giants, the Browns may have to rely on a rookie wide receiver on Sunday

    Excerpt: "The Giants are hampered with injuries and need rookie Rueben Randle to step up Sunday. Well, the Browns are in a similar predicament. With Mohamed Massaquoi and Travis Benjamin likely out against the Giants, Cleveland will lean on rookie Josh Gordon.

    A second-round pick in the supplemental draft out of Baylor, Gordon has just seven catches for 93 yards on the season. But the 21-year-old "had the best practice of his professional career," according to offensive coordinator Brad Childress,
    via Jodie Valade of The Plain Dealer."

    Eagles' loss "10 times more difficult" to move on from at this point in Tom Coughlin's career

    Excerpt: "Tom Coughlin is in his 17th season as an NFL head coach. That doesn't make losses like Sunday's 19-17 defeat to the Eagles any easier.

    In fact, Coughlin said his experience makes such close calls even harder to move on from.

    "It’s 10 times more difficult," the Giants coach said in his weekly interview with the team's official website.

    "Losing, it kills you," he continued. "For whatever reason, whether there’s somewhere in your mind back down the road about having success…you just think, particularly based on our experiences, that when we’re in that position, we’re going to win." Read more...

    Giants get several players back on practice field before Browns' game

    Excerpt: "The Giants got a handful of key players back on the practice field today, two days before facing the Browns at home.

    Notably, RG Chris Snee (hip), S Antrel Rolle (knee) and CB Corey Webster (hand/hamstring) were participating in the portion of practice open to the media after sitting out yesterday. C David Baas (hand) and CB Michael Coe (hamstring) were also working after practicing fully yesterday." Read more...

    Browns' Trent Richardson sees room to run around edge of Giants' defense

    Excerpt: "Last week was not a banner week for the Giants in defending the run. In their loss to the Eagles, they bled away 191 rushing yards. And 132 yards of those yards were recorded as runs around the right or left end.Browns running back Trent Richardson took note of that trend while preparing for this week's game, and the rookie says he sees space to pick up yards on the edge against the Giants.

    "Oh yeah," Richardson said on a conference call with the New York media today. "If we put a hat on a number, just cover them up, I think we can get yards on 'em. But at the same time, I know they're going to throw everything they can at us. I'm pretty sure they're going to game plan on our running game, and so we've got to make sure we open up the passing game so we can get some good runs in." Read more...

    Giants' defensive ends aren't having much fun

    Excerpt: "The Giants are 2-2. The defense has generated just eight sacks through the quarter pole of the season and the defensive end trio of Jason Pierre-Paul (1.5 sacks), Osi Umenyiora (2) and Justin Tuck (0) have combined for just 3.5 of them. It's been a frustrating start.

    There have been a variety of reasons. A lack of discipline up front. A reluctance to blitz due to a decimated secondary. Offenses' focus on throwing the ball quickly.

    And the defensive ends, quite simply, aren't having much fun." Read more...



    Practice Notes: Barden still MIA

    Excerpt: "
    Ramses Barden hasn't practiced all week, thanks to the late-game concussion he sustained in Philadelphia. And that didn't change on Friday.

    The big wide receiver was nowhere to be found at practice, and it's starting to seem likely that he won't play on Sunday." Read more...

    Giants' wary of Browns' rookies

    Excerpt: "
    There are no such things as breathers in the NFL, particularly if you’re the defending Super Bowl champions like the Giants.

    The natural inclination would be to look at a young team such as Cleveland, winless in its first four games, starting a rookie at quarterback and a rookie at running back, and think that you can slip one past the Browns. And after facing two mobile, strong-armed quarterbacks with the ability to beat you with their arms and legs (Cam Newton and Michael Vick), you could think about relaxing against the Browns at MetLife Stadium on Sunday afternoon. That would be foolish for the Giants.

    There is an opportunity here for the Giants — a chance to solidify their defense, which hasn’t had the consistent pop you’d expect from a unit that was rock-solid in last season’s playoff run.

    The deficiencies have been especially noticeable in stopping the run and in the pass rush.
    If there is a game on the schedule for the Giants defense to bare its fangs, this is it — even if the defense is a little banged up. The Giants haven’t been as aggressive up front as they would like because they’re missing valuable pieces in the secondary such as safety Kenny Phillips.

    “There are certain things you can’t do against Vick and Cam Newton that you can do with other quarterbacks without a trailer like Kenny Phillips back there,” said Giants defensive end Justin Tuck. “We’ll see on Sunday.”

    Giants' lack of sacks no fun for JPP, Giants

    Excerpt: "
    When Jason Pierre-Paul was at his best, he felt like a big kid on the football field. Everything came easily. Everything seemed fun.

    He isn’t having fun anymore.

    That, as much as anything, explains why the once dominant Giants defensive end has just 1½ sacks through the first quarter of the season, and why the once-powerful Giants pass rush has been so ineffective this season. Pierre-Paul said he has struggled under the weight of incredibly high expectations, which has helped take some of the joy out of his game.

    “I’m not having that fun I’m used to,” the 23-year-old said on Thursday. “I’ve just got to go out there and run around like a little kid — just be happy that you’re out there and make plays. Have that energy that I had last year.

    “And that’ll go for the other guys, too. You could see it in their eyes that they’re not having fun with the game. They’ve got to find themselves and I’ve got to find myself.” Read more...



    Giants; Coughlin: At this age, losing kills you

    Excerpt: "The older he gets, the more the losses hurt and stay with him.

    “It’s 10 times more difficult,’’ at this stage of his career, Tom Coughlin admitted in an interview with
    Coughlin, 66, and the Giants are coming off a 19-17 loss to the Eagles and Coughlin has reviewed the last minute of that game in his mind countless times, figuring what he could have done differently. “It’s not healthy,’’ Coughlin says but yet it’s what he does.

    “Losing, it kills you,’’ Coughlin said. “We had a minute and something left. We’re going to win the game. Now, to be honest with you, we always have our timeouts preserved and if we had one timeout in our pocket, I believe we’re going to win the game.’ Read more...


    Giants' defense set for Funday

    Excerpt: "Jason Pierre-Paul took a good, hard look in the mirror this week and didn’t like what he saw staring back at him.

    He didn’t see the happy-go-lucky face of the Monster of the Meadowlands, the giant among Giants who was destined to strike fear into the hearts of quarterbacks around the league and arrive in Canton on roller skates. He saw a young man in the prime of his NFL life who was no longer having the fun he so often did his first two seasons in the league.

    Someone who has learned the same cruel lessons of NFL life they all learn, unless your name is Lawrence Taylor: You don’t just show up in Superman’s cape and wait for the enemy to swoon at your feet." Read more...

    Giants' secondary having trouble staying on the field

    Excerpt: "There are times, many of them, when Justin Tuck doesn’t know who is on the field with him. Doesn’t know exactly who is in and who is out in the secondary.

    “Do I always know who’s back there? No, I don’t,’’ Tuck said yesterday. “There were some times [against the Eagles] I looked up and saw Will Hill back there. I didn’t know Will Hill started until halfway through the game. So, no, I don’t.’’

    Tuck can be pardoned for scratching his head and wondering what the heck is going on along the back end. It’s been a turnstile leading to the defensive backfield, with players coming, going, in, out, up and down. The same starting group hasn’t been together for a single game and this week is no exception. There were five defensive starters sitting out yesterday’s practice and three of them — cornerback Corey Webster and safeties Antrel Rolle and Kenny Phillips — reside in the defensive backfield. Another player who has started this season, rookie cornerback Jayron Hosley, also sat out." Read more...

    Giants' JPP: "I'm not having that fun I used to"

    Excerpt: "The much-hyped Giants defensive line is falling far short of expectations and as a result, the enjoyment this season isn’t nearly what it’s supposed to be.

    “I won’t say it’s not fun, I’ll just say I’m not having that fun I used to,’’ Jason Pierre-Paul said on Thursday. “I just got to go out there and run around like a little kid, just be happy you’re out there and have to make plays and stuff.’’

    All that reckless abandon Pierre-Paul displayed en route to his breakout 2011 season hasn’t been seen in full-effect this season. He has only 1 1/2 sacks and the other pass-rushing defensive ends haven’t fared much better. Osi Umenyiora has two sacks and Justin Tuck is still looking for his first one.

    “That goes for the other guys too … you can see it in their eyes they’re not having fun with the game,’’ Pierre-Paul said. “They got to find themselves and I got to find myself. I’m doing something to find myself.’’ Read more...

    Eli an equal opportunity teacher, teammate for Giants

    Excerpt: "Before he was Eli Manning, two-time Super Bowl MVP quarterback, before he was one-time Super Bowl MVP, back when he was a famous player but not nearly a great one, back when there was every reason to wonder what legacy he would leave behind, Manning shared.

    It is one of his most underrated assets. As he mastered his position, he quickly realized it would do him no good if those around him, even the roster bottom-feeders, did not know what he knew.

    “I came from Denver, my first day of practice, know none of the plays,’’ receiver Domenik Hixon said yesterday, recalling a day in October of 2007. “I ran a route and Eli came, pulled me to the side and said ‘This is what I’m expecting.’ I kind of was like ‘Wow.’ I’m the last guy on the depth chart at receiver but just in case I ought to know what to do." Read more...



    Vinny DiTrani's NFL picks

    Excerpt: "After two subpar weeks we try a technique Bill Parcells used to get out of a funk: take a ride down the shore. There’s something about waves loudly crashing onto the beach and the pungent aroma of dead sea matter that can clear the brain. With greetings from the Jersey Shore, here are this weekend’s selections. Hopefully they will turn the tide.

    Browns over *Giants, getting 9 — The Giants usually manage to keep this type of game closer than it should be.

    And this one is sandwiched between Philly and Frisco.
    "







    The Coughlin Corner: Set for Browns

    Excerpt: "The Coughlin Corner,’s exclusive weekly interview with head coach Tom Coughlin

    Q: When you’ve been an NFL coach for 17 years, you’re inevitably going to have disappointing games like the 19-17 loss last week in Philadelphia, but you have the next game. At this stage of your career, is it harder or easier to move on from those games?

    Coughlin: “It’s 10 times more difficult.”

    Q: Is it really?
    Coughlin: “Losing, it kills you. For whatever reason, whether there’s somewhere in your mind back down the road about having success…you just think, particularly based on our experiences, that when we’re in that position, we’re going to win. We had a minute and something left. We’re going to win the game. Now, to be honest with you, we always have our timeouts preserved and if we had one timeout in our pocket, I believe we’re going to win the game.

    “Everybody wants to know about (the last) 15 seconds. Well, let me just tell you about the 15 seconds. With no timeouts, the ball cannot go inside. You’re not going to get another play off. We practice what we call 'cobra' all the time and 'cobra' means the guy who catches the ball gives himself up and declares himself down. You run up on the ball, but when we do it on the practice field, there’s no umpire. There’s nobody that has to put the ball down. There’s nobody waiting for the signal. Eighteen seconds – maybe you can do it. Maybe 15 seconds. I don’t care if it’s a five-yard gain, that’s the last play of the game.

    “Over all the years of experience that I’ve had in this league, if you get to one play - I tell this to our defensive coordinator - you get to one play and the team has no timeouts, you’re going to have people stacked along the sideline. Now does that mean you don’t try it? No, of course it doesn’t mean you don’t try it, but what it means is the chances…there are two or three things that can go wrong. One is a pick if you’re forcing it. Two is if you don’t get out of bounds and three – you’re taking a chance. We’re right on the cusp of what his (kicker
    Lawrence Tynes
    ) distance was. You’re taking a chance on anything happening. Of course, if you’re sacked, the game is over. If it’s a tip-ball interception, the game is over. Whatever it is. They know where the ball is going. You have to go to the sideline. So there’s risk involved in that, too.

    “The third variable that people don’t think about is you’re on the road. If there’s anything in terms of management or anything like that type of a thing, it just doesn’t factor in the way you want to operate. My number one thing was we were going to kick a field goal to win the game. I was not going to put our team in a situation where we walk off the field, saying, ‘Well, we never really had a chance to kick it.’ Were we able to react well after the ( offensive pass interference) penalty? No. Obviously, we didn’t. That would have been the time for, and we almost did get it out of bounds when he scrambled and threw it up and it was right off (Domenik) Hixon’s fingertips, but those are the kinds of things that happen in a game like this.

    “When we’re in that position, we believe we’re going to win. The other factor you have to understand is that if you normally send somebody out to kick a field goal on third down, the other guy is a little hesitant about what you’re up to. Which means there is a chance you may not get the rush they normally would have. Now, that’s not what happened. They came with everything they had, but there are people that will play that in a more conservative role because it’s third down.

    “To your original question, which I didn’t spend any time answering, the losses are much more difficult to get over the further you are in your career. They’re killers. You don’t sleep. I went on that couch right there at 3 o’clock in the morning and I could not get to sleep because, to be honest with you, I kept going over, over and over saying, ‘How could I have helped our team when it was 15 seconds left?’ Of course, I’ve got all the scenarios the next morning. Sure, it’s easy. But who’s telling you a 44-yarder is an easy field goal? We had made two yards on a run and they know we’re throwing the ball.” Read more..

    Giants Injury Report 10/5/2012

    Excerpt: "Here is the latest Giants Injury Report


    WR Ramses Barden (Concussion - DNP)
    DT Rocky Bernard (Quadricep - DNP)
    CB Jayron Hosley (Hamstring - DNP)
    WR Hakeem Nicks (Foot/Knee - DNP)
    S Kenny Phillips (Knee - DNP)

    T David Diehl (Knee - LP)
    LB Keith Rivers (Hamstring - LP)

    LB Michael Boley (Hip - LP)
    S Antrel Rolle (Knee - LP)
    G Chris Snee (Hip - LP)
    CB Corey Webster (Hand/Hamstring - LP)

    C David Baas (Hand - FP)
    CB Michael Coe (Hamstring - FP)

    Limited Participation (LP) = less than 100% of a player’s normal repetitions
    Full Participation (FP) = 100% of a player’s normal repetitions
    Did Not Participate in Practice (DNP)
    Out = definitely will not play
    Doubtful = at least 75% chance will not play
    Questionable = 50-50 chance will not play
    Probable = virtual certainty will be available for normal duty

    GIANTS 101

    Mitch Petrus would likely start for Giants if Chris Snee is unable to play

    Excerpt: "Only a month ago, offensive lineman Mitch Petrus was without a job. TheNew York Giants had waived their 2010 fifth-round pick in favor of D.J. Jones, who was awarded to the team off of waivers from the Philadelphia Eagles, but Petrus was immediately brought back after Jones failed his physical. Now, as Big Blue enters a crucial week five game with the Cleveland Browns, Petrus not only has his job, but may actually start for the defending Super Bowl champions.

    "Next guy. Probably be Mitch Petrus," offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride said when asked who would start for Chris Snee if he was unable to play on Sunday." Read more...

    Giants' Justin Tuck says he sucks while Jason Pierre-Paul "not having fun"

    Excerpt: "The New York Giants are 2-2 going into week five of the NFL regular season, but given the fan reaction, media coverage and player statements you'd think they were about to be contracted. That negativity continued on Thursday as another eight players missed practice, while the defensive line was uncharacteristically open about their current predicament.

    "I'm not having that fun I'm used to," Jason Pierre-Paul said. "I don't have that energy like I had last year. And that goes for the other guys, too. You can see it in their eyes that they're not having fun with the game. They got to find [themselves] and I got to find myself so I'm just looking to find myself."

    Defensive captain and fellow defensive end Justin Tuck echoed his teammate's statements about not having fun, but took it a step further. As he did a year ago, Tuck criticized his own play … bluntly. And for the second time in as many seasons, the veteran says he "sucks." Read more...



    Tom Coughlin's Thursday press conference notes

    Excerpt: "
    Here are some of the highlights from the Thursday afternoon meeting with reporters held by New York Giants' coach Tom Coughlin.

    Injury stuff

    -- Antrel Rolle did not practice due to swelling in his left knee, but Coughlin said he is "hoping and feeling" Rolle will play Sunday vs. the Cleveland Browns.

    -- Coughlin said he is confident cornerback Michael Coe will play, but did not say the same for Jayron Hosley." Read more...

    Perry Fewell knows Giants' defensive ends are frustrated

    NExcerpt: " York Giants' defensive coordinator Perry Fewell said Thursday he knows that teams are game-planning to combat the Giants' plethora of pass-rushing defensive ends.

    "Oh yeah, people are doing some different things to try and protect against us, they're getting the ball out quick, but you know, no matter what, you have to play the game," Fewell said. "When teams counter and do something to take you out of your game, you're going to be a little frustrated, but it's a long season. The thing we have to make sure is that we play within the framework of our defense, we play within the framework of the team. We're not selfish, we go out and play how we're supposed to play."

    Here is a little more from Fewell's Thursday press conference." Read more...

    Giants' special teams are special - really!

    Excerpt: "
    For most of the past few years, adequate special teams play has seemingly been good enough for the New York Giants. as long as the special teams groups did not hurt the Giants -- which they sometimes did -- that seemed to be acceptable.

    This season, though, the Giants' special teams have truly been special." Read more...

    Giants vs. Browns: Five questions with "Dawgs By Nature

    Excerpt: "
    There are a lot of terrific football writers on the SB Nation Network who I rarely get the opportunity to interact with. Chris Pokorny of SB Nation'sCleveland Browns web site, 'Dawgs By Nature,' is one of those. With theGiants hosting the Browns this week I swapped some questions with Chris about Sunday's game.

    Below, 'Five questions with Dawgs By Nature.'

    Big Blue View: Your impressions of Brandon Weeden thus far? Despite being 0-4 and averaging just 18 points per game are you seeing signs that he could be the long-term answer at quarterback?" Read more...

    NFL Week 5 predictions: Mikey's crustal ball

    Excerpt: "Wow. Mikey's Crystal Ball was looking great at 10-3 before Lawrence Tynesdropped a near impossible boot 2 yards short and became Tony Romo again. But 10-5 is better than 4-12 any day. With that, let's have a look at Week 5.....

    Cleveland at NY Giants-If you are not nervous, you are not paying attention. I want Tom Coughlin to convince the Giants that this is the Super Bowl, because otherwise they will start looking ahead to San Francisco, and I want them to remember that beat down suffered in Cleveland four years ago on Monday night, that I think was also in Week 5. There was Week 5's home loss to the Seahawks last year. Then there is the obvious-you absolutely cannot lose to an 0-4 team. Giants 27, Browns 13" Read more...


















    Giants' Osi Umenyiora challenges Brown's RB Trent Richardson

    Excerpt: "
    New York Giants veteran defensive end Osi Umenyiora issued a challenge to confident Cleveland Browns rookie running back Trent Richardson.
    "If (Trent) looks on tape and he thinks he sees some candy, come try and get it," Umenyiora said Friday.
    Umenyiora's challenge came in response to comments Richardson made earlier in the week."I think that if we cover the edges and run hard, no doing all this juking and that, one move and go, I think we can have success in the running game," Richardson said.The Giants rank 22nd in the NFL in rushing defense, allowing 118.3 yards per game.Last Sunday night, Philadelphia's LeSean McCoy rushed for 123 yards against them on 23 carries, an average of 5.3 yards per attempt. As a team, the Eagles ran for 191 yards on 36 carries." Read more...
    Richardson, 21, Cleveland's first-rounder out of Alabama, has rushed for 222 yards and three touchdowns on 64 carries.


    Giants' Hakeem Nicks to miss 3rd straight game

    Excerpt: "
    New York Giants wide receiver Hakeem Nicks will miss his third straight game Sunday against the Cleveland Browns, coach Tom Coughlin announced Thursday.
    Nicks is still bothered by his surgically repaired foot, which he had operated on back in May. He also is suffering from pain in his knee.

    "It's a combination," Coughlin said.
    Coughlin said the plan right now is just to rest Nicks until he is able to get back on the field. Nicks' status beyond this week is undetermined.A four-year veteran, Nicks had 14 catches for 237 yards and a touchdown in the Giants' first two games of the year. He has had more than 1,000 yards receiving in each of the past two seasons." Read more...



    Giants' depth will be on display against Browns on Sunday

    Excerpt: "Michael Boley believes that one of the main reasons the New York Giants won the Super Bowl last season - and remain a solid contender this year in their eyes - is their depth straight across the board.Look no further than on the defensive line.

    ''You have guys who are willing to step up and fill in,'' said Boley, a linebacker who remains on the Giants' injury report with a hip problem. ''We have a lot of athletes on this team that can step up and play at any time. It shows the team's character. It shows that guys are always prepared.
    ''We have guys who know that this week could be their turn.''Marvin Austin and Markus Kuhn are two players who realize that Sunday might be their chance to shine along the defensive line. And playing a young and winless team - Cleveland (0-4) - might be a good starting off point." Read more...












    PFF Pick 'EM: Week 5

    Excerpt: "Week 4 was one of those weeks where a blindfolded dart-tosser could have collected. So many picks that made sense and so many of them coming through. The entire staff (well, sorry Steve, almost the entire staff) posted great cards and, yes, my 12-2 led the way. Included in my pair of misses was a particularly stinging one where the faith I had in Oakland to actually show up in Denver was not repaid. I will not be picking the Raiders this week.

    We are now a combined 21-4 when agreeing across the board and you’ll find another six such selections from the team this week. Our lone wolf record took a hit thanks to that Raider loss and now stands at 10-2 on the year. The Colts, Redskins, Chiefs, and Chargers are each backed by a solitary PFF-er this time.
    How’s your card look?"




    Last edited by RoanokeFan; 10-05-2012, 07:54 PM.
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

  • #2
    Thanks RF!



    • #3
      Originally posted by GiantVibes View Post
      Thanks RF!
      You're welcome
      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1


      • #4
        Thanks bro.

        “Basically just stay with your man,” cornerback Janoris Jenkins said. “Follow him everywhere you go. Even if he goes to the bathroom, follow him.”


        • #5
          Thanks RF !
          " Success is never final, but failure can be " B.P.


          • #6
            Originally posted by BeatYale View Post
            Thanks bro.
            You're welcome
            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1


            • #7
              Originally posted by G-Men Surg. View Post
              Thanks RF !
              Can't wait until Sunday gets here
              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1


              • #8
                I feel a lot like Coughlin. Eagles loss was a tough one to swallow and bounce back from. Thanks RF.


                • #9
                  Thanks for the news!
                  This game should be interesting, new guys having to step up.
                  Clevland's TR looks forward to it. Hope the Giants feed off of that.


                  • #10
                    Sunday is on its way...
                    we could all use a win....
                    "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                    You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ashleymarie View Post
                      I feel a lot like Coughlin. Eagles loss was a tough one to swallow and bounce back from. Thanks RF.
                      A win will make things right
                      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Old Giant View Post
                        Thanks for the news!
                        This game should be interesting, new guys having to step up.
                        Clevland's TR looks forward to it. Hope the Giants feed off of that.
                        The ship will be righted on Sunday.
                        “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                          Can't wait until Sunday gets here
                          It's going to be fun, exciting and nerve-wracking at the same time watching Big Blue playing the Brownies with lots of guys playing baged-up and some out. As you said, CAN'T WAIT !!!!!!
                          " Success is never final, but failure can be " B.P.


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by G-Men Surg. View Post
                            It's going to be fun, exciting and nerve-wracking at the same time watching Big Blue playing the Brownies with lots of guys playing baged-up and some out. As you said, CAN'T WAIT !!!!!!
                            Every game is an adventure
                            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1