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  • #91
    Im not sure why some people are bashing JPP like hes dogging it. The guy is a monster and gives 110% on every play. Do you guys not see him making plays? Do you watch the games? Sacks aren't the ONLY stat that reflects production.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by FBomb View Post
      yeah...OR...we just want Osi and the rest of the talkers to just shut up and play.
      agreed! All the talkers.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by CowboysSuck View Post
        Im not sure why some people are bashing JPP like hes dogging it. The guy is a monster and gives 110% on every play. Do you guys not see him making plays? Do you watch the games? Sacks aren't the ONLY stat that reflects production.
        Cause he's not producing to the level he was last year, No one is bashing JPP, bashing is such a strong misused word for objective criticism. i saw some plays on regulars replay and all 22 where he couldn't fight off one blocker, I can list them for you and times if you like.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by CowboysSuck View Post
          Im not sure why some people are bashing JPP like hes dogging it. The guy is a monster and gives 110% on every play. Do you guys not see him making plays? Do you watch the games? Sacks aren't the ONLY stat that reflects production.
          although he says he's not having fun, this guy is a playmaker, you ALWAYS hear his called during every game.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
            Cause he's not producing to the level he was last year, No one is bashing JPP, bashing is such a strong misused word for objective criticism. i saw some plays on regulars replay and all 22 where he couldn't fight off one blocker, I can list them for you and times if you like.
            u have to be careful tho and know what ur looking at. a lot of times a DE will use a stack n shed, and it can look as if the DE is being blocked by one guy but in reality the DE is allowing the OL to get the hands on him so he can "stack" them, and then "shed" him. JPP does it almost every play that isnt a clear 3rd and long or when he uses a speed rush bc its effective vs the run. so yeah...and i dont think JPP is playing at a lower level at all. Teams are clearly focsuing on him and chipping him every chance they get. he still has a couple of sacks. when tuck n osi come around, JPP will get more sacks obviously but JPP has been a BEAST vs the run and even vs the pass w/ his batted balls/pressures. sack numbers are lower at the moment but that can change in a 3 sack game, everything else numbers wise is at the same level

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            • #96
              Originally posted by embeshAtYa View Post
              picturing osi loose contain and trying desperately to find a good angle while being toasted
              Just watch last week's game, no imagination required
              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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              • #97
                Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
                u have to be careful tho and know what ur looking at. a lot of times a DE will use a stack n shed, and it can look as if the DE is being blocked by one guy but in reality the DE is allowing the OL to get the hands on him so he can "stack" them, and then "shed" him. JPP does it almost every play that isnt a clear 3rd and long or when he uses a speed rush bc its effective vs the run. so yeah...and i dont think JPP is playing at a lower level at all. Teams are clearly focsuing on him and chipping him every chance they get. he still has a couple of sacks. when tuck n osi come around, JPP will get more sacks obviously but JPP has been a BEAST vs the run and even vs the pass w/ his batted balls/pressures. sack numbers are lower at the moment but that can change in a 3 sack game, everything else numbers wise is at the same level
                I know what i am looking at.
                There are some clear instances where the pass is imminent and he doesn't shed the block, he tries but he's blocked. I think back to the game against the cowboys where he manhandled Smith, he did not do much of that last game. Sacks are nice, but i'm more looking for QB pressure, containment, batting down passes and disrupting lanes.

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                • #98
                  IM wit it...it cant hurt. Last week he didn't talk **** with McCoy and he played like ****...maybe this will result in something different.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by The Notorious B.I.G BLUE View Post
                    IM wit it...it cant hurt. Last week he didn't talk **** with McCoy and he played like ****...maybe this will result in something different.
                    He said he was gonna put up 4 sacks last week, I think its time he and everyone else for that matter shut up and put up.

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                    • Originally posted by FBomb View Post
                      yeah...OR...we just want Osi and the rest of the talkers to just shut up and play.
                      A ****ing men
                      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                      • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                        A ****ing men
                        I think this is the first time i've ever see you post a curse word on the boards. Put the whiskey down! :P

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                        • Originally posted by joemorrisforprez View Post
                          Osi reminds me of this chick I used to date....she'd flip the bird to people on the highway, and then I'd get in the fight.
                          thats funny. Her name wasn't Tina, as it?

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                          • Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
                            I think this is the first time i've ever see you post a curse word on the boards. Put the whiskey down! :P
                            Only when I know the filter will catch it lol

                            I can live with the injury situation because we have so little control over that. But the DLine coming up as flat as they have just drives me crazy. Someone else said earlier Blackburn leads in sacks. I'm not sure it's true but it would not surprise me. Maybe tomorrow they just tell Stevie Brown BLITZ when you're on the field.
                            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                            • Originally posted by Eliscruzzz View Post
                              lmao yeah cause Osi's play has been stellar this season...no but seriously people just don't want him to start. Osi is better at 3rd and longs that is it.
                              Its not that we dont appreciate his contribution. He is a really good against the pass. Any team would want him.

                              But we have the deepest pass rush defense in the NFL. And Osi has NEVER been too good against the run. Cause he appears to be is always pass rushing, and over-committing to mobile QBs. Plus he never shuts up. Dont matter as he will be gone next year.

                              Anyway, I hope he get another ring this year!!

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                              • Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
                                u have to be careful tho and know what ur looking at. a lot of times a DE will use a stack n shed, and it can look as if the DE is being blocked by one guy but in reality the DE is allowing the OL to get the hands on him so he can "stack" them, and then "shed" him. JPP does it almost every play that isnt a clear 3rd and long or when he uses a speed rush bc its effective vs the run. so yeah...and i dont think JPP is playing at a lower level at all. Teams are clearly focsuing on him and chipping him every chance they get. he still has a couple of sacks. when tuck n osi come around, JPP will get more sacks obviously but JPP has been a BEAST vs the run and even vs the pass w/ his batted balls/pressures. sack numbers are lower at the moment but that can change in a 3 sack game, everything else numbers wise is at the same level
                                Yeah I agree JPP is on pace for another 80 tackle season(he has 17 already). So he is stopping the run when it is coming his way and making the tackle if some else misses containment. He also already had two pass defenses when all of last year he had 7. He is doing this even when he is doubled team and teams are building the way the play offense around him.That is pretty damn impressive for a defensive end all he has to do is get his sack numbers up and like you said they will come.
                                sigpicShould the Giants fire Gilbride....

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