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  • #46
    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    But the "gamble" is Eli's ability to stay upright. Worth it?
    here we go with logic again
    "When I was 15, I could not believe how dumb my father was.....when I was 25, I could not believe how much he had learned in 10 years"

    1st to use the phrase "In Reese we trust"

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Eli TO Shockey View Post
      I would also like to see both guys get more PT...but I trust the coaching staff....

      2 things bug the F out of Coughlin. Guys who fumble, and guys who cant block. If you can't be trusted in the backfield, then you're not gonna see significant playing time. Wilson was set to be the 50/50 guy until he fumbed wk 1. Both guys will see an increased role as time goes on, its just not gonna happen overnight.
      Great, so play conservative ball straight to last in the division.
      Got a gift last year winning div with such a crappy record. Not
      going to happen again.

      Start running 2 back sets if thats what it takes
      to get these other RB's out there. Let Wilson chip and go out to the flats or
      take a screen. Get the ball out quick and Eli won't have to worry about a sack.
      Last edited by OX1; 10-05-2012, 08:52 PM.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
        But the "gamble" is Eli's ability to stay upright. Worth it?
        I meant gamble as in the running game. I'm saying we dont have to gamble in the pasing game if we employ other techniques which i have already described a few times.

        But lets use your gamble as a pretense to another argument. In fact, yes I would like them to gamble. Taking chances and being vulnerable are paramount to unexpected success. EA gambled on Eli. Shoot, I gambled today betting on horses. Taking chances is a part of life and I think the payoff in this case is worth the *possibility* of Eli being pressured 1 or 2 more times a game.

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        • #49
          just my $.02. At the end of the day I trust, for the most part, what the coaches are doing. As long as I'm entertained I'll gladly take the result. Entertainment is the name of the game after all, isn't it?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by fansince69 View Post
            here we go with logic again
            It's a persistent flaw
            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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            • #51
              Originally posted by CowboysSuck View Post
              I meant gamble as in the running game. I'm saying we dont have to gamble in the pasing game if we employ other techniques which i have already described a few times.

              But lets use your gamble as a pretense to another argument. In fact, yes I would like them to gamble. Taking chances and being vulnerable are paramount to unexpected success. EA gambled on Eli. Shoot, I gambled today betting on horses. Taking chances is a part of life and I think the payoff in this case is worth the *possibility* of Eli being pressured 1 or 2 more times a game.
              So you signal the defense when Brown is in because they know it's not a pass play?

              And your willingness to expose Eli, the franchise, to injury is mind boggling to me. He is already under pressure on most pass plays.
              Last edited by RoanokeFan; 10-05-2012, 09:03 PM.
              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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              • #52
                Originally posted by CowboysSuck View Post
                I can use the same argument. The Eagles get after the QB well...so any RB that isnt extremely well versed in pass blocking isnt going to perform amazing. Also, since we havent run the ball well vs the Eagles since 2008 (which leaves Brahsaw and Jacobs as the two main backs to run against them in these past 4 years) why not go with a fresh look? Maybe Brown or Wilson have a certain skill set that would go after the weaknesses of Eagles Defense?
                I'll just have to trust the 2 time Super Bowl winning coaching staff. I also don't think it's that hard o understand. Bad OL goes against great pass rushing DL and franchise QB is at risk. They also threw he ball a lot more because they are not the Giants of the past. They are a pass 1st team now. Using Bradshaw to ensure the safety of Eli was the right move. Further more, be careful what you wish for. I like Brown, but why is he all of a sudden the answer? Is it because he ran well on Tampa when the Giants where trailing? Or was it because he ran well against a bad Panthers team?

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                • #53
                  This is all moot.......Coughlin will run Bradshaw until his foot falls off

                  Why waste time discussing it?

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                  • #54
                    So you think TC doesn't want to win?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
                      I'll just have to trust the 2 time Super Bowl winning coaching staff. I also don't think it's that hard o understand. Bad OL goes against great pass rushing DL and franchise QB is at risk. They also threw he ball a lot more because they are not the Giants of the past. They are a pass 1st team now. Using Bradshaw to ensure the safety of Eli was the right move. Further more, be careful what you wish for. I like Brown, but why is he all of a sudden the answer? Is it because he ran well on Tampa when the Giants where trailing? Or was it because he ran well against a bad Panthers team?
                      We are lucky that somehow Eli did not get sacked last game IIRC. We should look into getting him that Kevlar padding Vick has if our o-line keeps playing like garbage, Eli is bound to get roughed up at some point.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
                        So you think TC doesn't want to win?
                        he wants to win within his boundries

                        he will not violate his pecking order in order to win..........the only way to infuse new talent is injuries, unsigned free agents, and retirements

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                        • #57
                          He has won 2 of the last 5 Super Bowls. I think he knows what he is doing.

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                          • #58
                            well he wont win this one if he stubbornly refuses to replace mr 37 yds rushing per game...........Elis good.....hes not that good
                            and the lack of a rushing game means too much time on the field for our defense

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                            • #59
                              Didn't they win last year with a horrible running game?

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                              • #60
                                There is a reason Vince Lombardi called his book "Run to daylight"...........not "Pass to Daylight"

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