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  • Originally posted by joemorrisforprez View Post
    I'd love to see it next week, but fat chance..... apparently Bradshaw is the second coming of Anthony Munoz....so they'll stick with the magic that has given us an 0-2 NFC East record.
    Numbers don't lie..... 2-0 with brown in there and 0-2 with bradshaw
    Football has been very, very good to us.
    After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
    But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

    # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

    1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
    2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
    3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
    4-New York Giants!!!
    5-NE
    Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

    ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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    • Let's see, Brown was in for ten plays, half of which were running plays, so somewhere along the line Gibride decides that Brown can't pass block even though he did a good job pass blocking in both the Tampa game and the Carolina game. For the record, Eli was not sacked at all in the Tampa game, even though we were playing from behind and Tampa could rush every play. He was sacked only once during the Carolina game, and I don't know who was responsile for that sack. When Bradshaw was assigned with protecting him in Philadelphia he didn't get sacked either. So we have one sack in three games, two of which Brown played a featured role in, and, out of the blue, pass protection is the key, deciding issue in who our running back should be? I think Gilbride is full of crap on this one, period. This is the same old resistance to change that we've seen from Gilbride and Coughlin forever. They had some momentum in the running game and threw it out the window for bull crap reasons. The best thing we coud have done at the Eagles was to run right over them, between the tackles. Their line is small, and they are very succeptible to that approach. Instead we go with Ahmad Cutbackshaw, and the running game never got going. Even Collinsworth pointed out the Cutbackshaw seldom follows his blockers and hits the hole, he's ALWAYS looking to take the play outside.

      I bet dollars to donuts that Deihl steps right back in when he comes back too. Even though it looks pretty evident that there are better lineman playing right now.

      I think the coaching staff out thought themselves Sunday night, and they lost the game, not the team. Eli's interception in the endzone didn't help; but, the coaching staff was doing some weird stuff in the Eagles game. But now, Gilbride has justified why he's going to go with Bradshaw, and sit Brown on the bench. I hope he'll remember we're 2-0 with Brown, and 0-2 with Cutbackshaw.

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      • Originally posted by CowboysSuck View Post
        im getting fed up with gilbride and coughlin carping about how every back except bradshaw cant block. its ridiculous
        Unfortunately I think we're stuck with these two for a while.

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        • Originally posted by ShakeandBake View Post
          71 yards on the ground from Brown vs 510 in the air, I wouldn't call Andre Brown's game against Tampa a success.
          Vinny Lombardi said if you cannot run you cannot win a title........with rare exceptions that holds true today

          You live by the pass you die by the pass.........ask Bill Bellicheck our little slave

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          • Clueless 2 time Super Bowl winning coaches. Protecting your franchise QB is so over rated. Put in Brown and the rookie.

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            • Looks like Brown should have more opportunities tomorrow.
              http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...headline_stack

              NFL Network's Kimberly Jones reported that Andre Brown will play against Cleveland and coach Tom Coughlin will ride the hot hand. That falls in line with what Coughlin planned before last week's loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, but Brown saw only nine snaps in that game.

              The team has been concerned about Brown's pass protection, but coaches love his burst and were encouraged by his 113-yard outing against the Carolina Panthers in Week 3. Coughlin has always enjoyed hitting defenses with a variety of backs, and Brown has come out of nowhere to emerge as Bradshaw's able helper......
              "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

              "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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              • Brown limped off with about 6 minutes to play in the third quarter. That could have been the reason he didn't get more carries.

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                • NFL.com: Andre Brown to see more carries v. Cleveland

                  http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...headline_stack

                  .....NFL Network's Kimberly Jones reported that Andre Brown will play against Cleveland and coach Tom Coughlin will ride the hot hand. That falls in line with what Coughlin planned before last week's loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, but Brown saw only nine snaps in that game.

                  The team has been concerned about Brown's pass protection, but coaches love his burst and were encouraged by his 113-yard outing against the Carolina Panthers in Week 3. Coughlin has always enjoyed hitting defenses with a variety of backs, and Brown has come out of nowhere to emerge as Bradshaw's able helper....
                  "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

                  "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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                  • Nice!
                    New York Giants Superbowl XXI, XXV, XLII, XLVI Champions!!!!!

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                    • I'm glad. I'd still like to see if Bradshaw can still do it.... We'll see.

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                      • Originally posted by Moke View Post
                        I'm glad. I'd still like to see if Bradshaw can still do it.... We'll see.
                        What are your impressions on Andre Brown so far?
                        New York Giants Superbowl XXI, XXV, XLII, XLVI Champions!!!!!

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                        • I've been an Andre Brown supporter for awhile now. When we had DJ Ware picked over him, I was still an Andre fan.

                          I think he's done a heck of a job and he's got the potential to be a very nice integrated part of the giants offense this year.

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                          • TC said the same thing before the philly game iirc...

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                            • In a game where we can dictate the flow of the game, I'd prefer to see Andre get equal carries -- if not the majority.

                              But against a fierce pass rush like Philly, I had no problem with Ahmad playing more. So many people are making that out to be the sole reason why we lost...as if the gap in talent is so wide that Andre would've gashed Philly. I, for one, didn't see a ton of running room for anybody.

                              Reality: The eagles are actually a good team (vomit) and when you're missing your difference-making, star WR in a division game on the road, that can be the difference between two otherwise very evenly matched teams. If Nicks is back for the rematch we should give them the kind of beatdown we've owed them for years.

                              The coaches aren't dumb, though. They did what they felt was necessary and best for the team.

                              What if Brown had played more but then Eli got smacked around all night and ended up hurt? Is THAT worth the potential increase in rushing success? The coaches sure didn't think so and frankly, they've earned MY trust at this point (How many rings will it take before they earn yours?)

                              If the best pure runner played regardless of what else they bring to the table then neither AB would get the lion's share of carries...Wilson would.

                              But until Brown and Wilson earn the coaches' full trust, might as well get used to seeing Ahmad.

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                              • There is just no question that AB is the best back atm, if you are missing blocking assignments in PRACTICE then you do not deserve to be on the field, period. When Wilson wins out the position we'll all be happy, Brown is not the answer lol. I like the kid but cmon, lets count the teams that bounced him. Patience is a ****ing virtue, learn it.

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