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  • Tuck living on Rep?

    Last year Tuck did next to nothing and the excuse was that he was injured. What is the excuse this year. He has not looked any better this year. He had a few very good years for us, but I am wondering if he is ever going to be a star player again or if his reputation is what is keeping him on the field. It certainly isn't production.

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    This coaching staff is more loyal to their vets than any team in the history of teams. Great for a couple years? Awesome, starting role handed to you until you decide to retire. Screw up 1 play as a rookie? Awesome, you wont see the field until next year.

    Genius, isn't it?

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    • #3
      To answer your question, no. Tuck is a certified gap filler and will never get more than 6 sacks in a year again.

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      • #4
        I still think its very likely Tuck retires after this season. His body is just broken down, he can not physically do what he used to.

        Everyone thinks when a player isnt as good as he once was that he is lazy or doesnt care, and I just dont think thats the case with tuck.

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        • #5
          He is def playing very old. He knows it too. You can tell by his body language. The only fire he ever shows is in his pre game speech when the cameras are on him.
          #80

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          • #6
            Just looking at his facial expression, you know he doesn't want to be there.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
              I still think its very likely Tuck retires after this season. His body is just broken down, he can not physically do what he used to.

              Everyone thinks when a player isnt as good as he once was that he is lazy or doesnt care, and I just dont think thats the case with tuck.
              His whole deal just speculates that after he got tripped by Flozell Adams, He has not been the same. Anyone on this message board would do the samething, Play until you cant. But in this aspect he is hurting the team more than helping at this point. I love the guy...........have his jersey........but it is time to retire if you cant help and only hurt the team at this point.
              "KILL'EM ALL AND LET THE PARAMEDICS SORT'EM OUT!"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by FIFTY6G-MAN View Post
                His whole deal just speculates that after he got tripped by Flozell Adams, He has not been the same. Anyone on this message board would do the samething, Play until you cant. But in this aspect he is hurting the team more than helping at this point. I love the guy...........have his jersey........but it is time to retire if you cant help and only hurt the team at this point.
                Hes still a very good run defender. He just can not offer much as a pass rusher anymore.

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                • #9
                  I don't think Tuck will retire. . .there's far too much money at stake.

                  I do think that he should not be Captain anymore. Let him worry about his play, and not the whole unit and speaking for others. He'll always be a leader, but I think he just needs to focus on being a player again.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RagTime Blue View Post
                    I don't think Tuck will retire. . .there's far too much money at stake.

                    I do think that he should not be Captain anymore. Let him worry about his play, and not the whole unit and speaking for others. He'll always be a leader, but I think he just needs to focus on being a player again.
                    I am not sure taking that step would not make him go further into thinking he is NOT performing. He is a major veteran player on this team and I believe taking that step would just add salt to injury.
                    "KILL'EM ALL AND LET THE PARAMEDICS SORT'EM OUT!"

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                    • #11
                      I'm not buying a lot of this, I think the Defenses that we have played have done a good job of getting rid of the ball early and working on our ends. after 4 games I'm not sure I would throw the towel in on Tuck....

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RagTime Blue View Post
                        I don't think Tuck will retire. . .there's far too much money at stake.
                        He only has one year left on his contract.

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                        • #13
                          Granted, he's not playing like he has in the past, but exactly who do you have in mind to replace him that will exceed his ability to play the run and pass? Say what you will, he is still the 2nd best DE on this team even with his decreased effectiveness. If his lack of production continues then I think we will draft a DE. We might draft a DE anyway b/c JPP is the one DE that is young and productive and one good DE is not enough. Osi and Tuck are old and I think we keep Kiwi at LB. If it were up to me I'd put Kiwi back at DE and make him lift weights and get strong enough to be the dominant DE he has the natural ability to be. Kiwi adn JPP both play RE though.
                          Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

                          http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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                          • #14
                            Giants need to think about drafting a DE early ago, Osi is gone and Tuck is washed! Osi & Tuck have games were they look like world beaters and then they have game were u dont even know they are in the game.

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                            • #15
                              Ill give Tuck way more of a pass than Osi. Tuck doesnt get pushed off the line of scrimmage. If anything, my only carp on him is his failure at getting to the QB...just 1 of the 2 aspects of the position and he actually may have a legitimate excuse about the opposing teams planning etc.

                              As for Osi, he has done neither. He get pushed off the line of scrimmage on running plays and on pass plays if the LT does as much as put a finger on Osi he gets no pressure. Hes a shell of his former self. never quite the same since his injury..

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