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  • #16
    Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
    Nothing. I mean maybe if the DT's can get healthy they can get some pressure. When will that be? All the De's are healthy.
    +1.
    Lets go, Giants!

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    • #17
      Well, I just hope these guys can be a little bit more productive against the 9ers. were going to need good safety and lb play and a good pass rush to slow the 9ers down.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by BROADWAYSTORM View Post
        To be fair the Browns offensive line is really good.
        That is true. Joe Thomas is the best left tackle in the NFL, for starters.

        But the Giants won't be able to spot the 49ers 14 points like today.

        Fortunately, the Giants play up to elite teams (not named the Saints).....and they play better on the road.
        "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

        "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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        • #19
          Originally posted by SuperNYGiants View Post
          What to do what to do oh man what to do.
          we need to switch to a 3-4 D. we are not getting it done with a 4-3.we need 4 Lb'ers with the type of football PF plays and he is trying to get it done in reverse. maybe we just can get the right people in there to make it work and throw teams off.
          "KILL'EM ALL AND LET THE PARAMEDICS SORT'EM OUT!"

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          • #20
            Its pretty bad, actually really bad. I think it may have something to do with our NON EXISTENT blitz packages. Did we blitz once today? honestly.. I really dont think we brought more than 4 the entire game. VS A ROOKIE QB

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            • #21
              Originally posted by CowboysSuck View Post
              Its pretty bad, actually really bad. I think it may have something to do with our NON EXISTENT blitz packages. Did we blitz once today? honestly.. I really dont think we brought more than 4 the entire game. VS A ROOKIE QB
              Once or twice, but only one extra man. Can't believe your up 3 scores
              and not bringing it. If not then, when????
              Last edited by OX1; 10-07-2012, 06:09 PM.

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              • #22
                This isn't the only problem, but it REALLY looks like we're missing Canty in this defense. We look soft up the middle, and the QB pretty much always has a clean pocket to step up into. We need his disruptive play pronto

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                • #23
                  How much time is Bernard supposed to miss?

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                  • #24
                    D-line is REALLY struggling....I kno Joe Thomas is a monster but you have to find ways to attack the other parts of the O-line. Dont tell me Cleveland is a win less team with 3 pro bowl caliber linemen. Stop it....the D-line has been poor. Osi is getting on my nerves, gets run on like cellophane, only had one play where he got to the QB on time (and it was still an incomplete pass, not a strip sack).

                    It's the whole line....inside and on the ends...I feel like they haven't had middle push for 2 years now lolll...it can't be all JPP....

                    this was a 9-7 team last year, I thought if the team stayed healthy, 10 wins was in the cards. But they're not healthy so......

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                    • #25
                      One thing I'll say....the Giants defense did a pretty good job after they fell behind 14-0. They slowed down the Browns enough for Eli & Co to catch up and blow their doors offensively.

                      If they play every game like they did in the 2nd/3rd quarters, they'll be okay.
                      "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

                      "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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                      • #26
                        As bad as our D has been, our offense is 2nd in the league in PPG to the Pats.

                        So, if you're gonna have a weak, injury-depleted D, it's pretty sweet to have a dominant O who, mind you, is accomplishing this mostly w/o Nicks.

                        The pass rush can't be any worse so there's only one direction to go from here ^

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by SackingMyths View Post
                          This isn't the only problem, but it REALLY looks like we're missing Canty in this defense. We look soft up the middle, and the QB pretty much always has a clean pocket to step up into. We need his disruptive play pronto
                          And this has a lot to do with the lack of pressure.

                          The ends cant speed rush around the utside because the QB just has to step up with no push up the middle.

                          Ends cant pull an inside move, again because the DTs are backed up against the guards.

                          When an end, like JPP did a couple times, beats his man, and the chip all the tackle has to do is give up the outside forcing the end around the long route from behind the pocket.

                          The only way end pressure alone is enough is if it comes consistently from both ends and you simply can not depend on that in this NFL.
                          Last edited by TextureDj; 10-07-2012, 06:53 PM. Reason: Added quote
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by SackingMyths View Post
                            As bad as our D has been, our offense is 2nd in the league in PPG to the Pats.

                            So, if you're gonna have a weak, injury-depleted D, it's pretty sweet to have a dominant O who, mind you, is accomplishing this mostly w/o Nicks.

                            The pass rush can't be any worse so there's only one place to go from here ^
                            That's why I think they should gamble more....they can afford to give up a big play here and there considering the firepower on the other side.

                            I'd love to see a return to the Spags style of defense....... it didn't always work, but it was fun as hell to watch the mayhem.
                            "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

                            "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by joemorrisforprez View Post
                              That's why I think they should gamble more....they can afford to give up a big play here and there considering the firepower on the other side.

                              I'd love to see a return to the Spags style of defense....... it didn't always work, but it was fun as hell to watch the mayhem.
                              I'm with you on this all the way. I am not a fan at all of the "keep everything in front of you" Defensive scheme (though we did just win a SB with it).

                              I'm hoping PF will realize a change needs to be made and get more aggressive. I miss all the DB blitzes and chaos that Spags' scheme had. And I see Hosley and Hill as two DBs that can be very effective off the edge. They seem to have a knack for making plays and timing up their blitz.

                              Hell, we brought pressure back in the day with Michael Johnson and James Butler in the back...we know it works.

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                              • #30
                                For his limited time on he field it seems like Will Hill has a good pass rush skill. Maybe they can get him in more.

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