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  • #16
    Originally posted by giantsforce View Post
    The problem is not our offense. It is mostly the play calling. The D is a different story. It is both on the players and the DC.
    I agree...........(The play calling by the Browns.) Do you actually believe KG called a bad game today. Enjoy the win......They won't come easy...

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    • #17
      Originally posted by brad View Post
      The offense has been good, and was obviously great today..... against the Browns. However, you have to do that against the better teams, i.e. the Eagles and Dallas, and you have to do it sooner.

      That being said, I am not saying the offense is bad, you would have to be an idiot to even try to argue that. What I am saying is that the D is banged up and is very bad right now. We need the offense to make up for that, we need them to start fast rather than asking the defense to keep us in the game against good teams for the entire first half before the offense shows up. Clearly the offense is capable of doing that, but for some reason they come out very lackluster in the beginning of games.
      The D needs to get healthy . . . . fast

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      • #18
        Originally posted by giantsforce View Post
        As you said before "that was the Browns" and for the life of me I am not sure why they forgot to cover Cruz in the end zone. So please, when we put more points on a defense that is half way decent, then we can talk about Killdrive. Although, in this game, he did what he should have done against the eagles, use the short pass and the play action more and I gave him props for that on an earlier thread. So you may think that my opinion is ridiculous, the fact remains that Eli bails out Killdrive in the end.
        How do you know that Eli didn't check into the plays that you seem to have a problem with?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BigBlue1971 View Post
          the defense doesnt even resemble the defense going into the superbowl last year! if they step up this team could be unstoppable.
          It's very clear that the defense we saw at the end of last year was just a fluke.
          http://boards.giants.com/showthread....est-game/page6
          http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2554_A_brief,_fact-filled_history_of_the_NFL_passing_game.html
          http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732732/is-new-york-giants-qb-eli-manning-worthy-hall-fame-espn-magazine

          Entire Team Let Eli down today - NYG4l

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          • #20
            Originally posted by derekunion28 View Post
            canty rivers philllips being out plus tt for season doesnt help on the defensive side a wins a win
            When we get Canty back along with Bernard, Phillips, Hosley. Prince is learning each week. Also the kids Stevie brown And Will Hill stepping up as season goes on
            Football has been very, very good to us.
            After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
            But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

            # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

            1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
            2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
            3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
            4-New York Giants!!!
            5-NE
            Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

            ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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            • #21
              Then we need to figure hoe to light a fire under Osi tuck and get the D line to take some pressure off the secondary
              Football has been very, very good to us.
              After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
              But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

              # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

              1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
              2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
              3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
              4-New York Giants!!!
              5-NE
              Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

              ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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              • #22
                What ever the O did today, they have to keep doing it, just mix it up a little next week . SF is going to be a tough game, the G-Men are in for a real dog fight ! I said it before we should be 5 & 0..........So now we are going to play a real good Pro team.....We need the D to step up for this game ! I saw no rushing the QB or sacks this week...SF are out to get us.....you know what, we have to play like we did the last time we played them, only this time I think we have more weapons. Make sure you double cover Vernon Davis !

                G-Men ..........Teach them a lesson, once and for all.......Lets get out and get them !
                Last edited by BillTheGreek; 10-08-2012, 01:47 AM.

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                • #23
                  It will be different going to from a defense that is rated like 27th in the league to the 1st ranked D. I think we will score some points, the problem will be that the 49r's will as well!

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                  • #24
                    Thought this thread could use some rehashing.

                    I find the lack of respect given to Kevin Gilbride by Giants fans on this board to be mind numbing. This offense has become a juggernaut.....surely that doesn't happen with a bad or predictable OC. The man's name is NOT Killdrive.....so stop calling him that. You just sound stupid.
                    I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by FBomb View Post
                      Thought this thread could use some rehashing.

                      I find the lack of respect given to Kevin Gilbride by Giants fans on this board to be mind numbing. This offense has become a juggernaut.....surely that doesn't happen with a bad or predictable OC. The man's name is NOT Killdrive.....so stop calling him that. You just sound stupid.
                      +1

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by brad View Post
                        The offense has been good, and was obviously great today..... against the Browns. However, you have to do that against the better teams, i.e. the Eagles and Dallas, and you have to do it sooner.

                        That being said, I am not saying the offense is bad, you would have to be an idiot to even try to argue that. What I am saying is that the D is banged up and is very bad right now. We need the offense to make up for that, we need them to start fast rather than asking the defense to keep us in the game against good teams for the entire first half before the offense shows up. Clearly the offense is capable of doing that, but for some reason they come out very lackluster in the beginning of games.
                        The offense can't always make up for the defense being bad. The Eagles now have, I believe, 14 turnovers in 4 games, but we couldn't get any from them. And we scored as much as the Steelers yesterday against them, but we couldn't get the win.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by FBomb View Post
                          Thought this thread could use some rehashing.

                          I find the lack of respect given to Kevin Gilbride by Giants fans on this board to be mind numbing. This offense has become a juggernaut.....surely that doesn't happen with a bad or predictable OC. The man's name is NOT Killdrive.....so stop calling him that. You just sound stupid.
                          You are right FBomb. plus 2.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by GMENAGAIN View Post
                            How do you know that Eli didn't check into the plays that you seem to have a problem with?
                            Because that wrecks the already stupid theory that ALL, not some, ALL of our offensive success is in spite of gilbride, never because of him.

                            My theory was that evem with 2 SB that required late TDs to win, some fans would continue to argue that, despite actual facts to the contrary, gilbride has had no part in our success.

                            My theory appears to be correct.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Robert21156 View Post
                              The offense can't always make up for the defense being bad. The Eagles now have, I believe, 14 turnovers in 4 games, but we couldn't get any from them. And we scored as much as the Steelers yesterday against them, but we couldn't get the win.
                              After the way the offense played against the Browns, it's hard to support my argument, but I will give it a shot You are correct, the offense can't always bail out the defense, but as bad as the defense is playing they are going to have to if we want to win games. That doesn't mean scoring 40 points a game, it simply means that they have to play better in the first half against quality opponents. They can't force the defense to spend the majority of the time on the field to start the game, that's what happened against TB, Dallas and Philadelphia.

                              Yes, we should be able to rely on the defense to get the ball back, and they should be able to close games. However, when you have no depth due to injury, and wear down the defense, they aren't going to have much left at the end of games. That doesn't make it the offenses fault necessarily, but at this point, with all the injuries, the offense needs to do more and do it earlier to compensate. Speaking of the Browns game, and the Carolina game as well.... those are perfect examples of how the offense can help the defense. The offense had a rough first five minutes, but got rolling in the first quarter and this game wasn't in doubt by the end of the half. Against Carolina they started out of the gate and never looked back.

                              This offense must bail out the defense, because the defense isn't going to bail out the offense very often!
                              My goal had been to win a championship, work toward the Hall of Fame, have my jersey retired by the team and I`d go in as a lifelong New York Giant, but I`m now resigned to the fact that this won`t happen. -- Michael Strahan, just when you think you're down...

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