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  • #31
    Originally posted by EnragedYouth85 View Post
    As you can see by this video, the pass is clearly on Browns side of the field. You can also see Brown way up on the short route when he should be been playing deep..

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-m...don-62-yard-TD
    That's one of those plays that makes you appreciate KP because he is rarely out of position and shines in covering the deep end of the field.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
      That's one of those plays that makes you appreciate KP because he is rarely out of position and shines in covering the deep end of the field.
      Yup, this is in no way, Rolles fault as previously stated..

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      • #33
        Originally posted by EnragedYouth85 View Post
        Yup, this is in no way, Rolles fault as previously stated..
        Even with this mistake on Brown that led to the touchdown, he overall had a decent game. I'm not sure how much credit I really want to give to Brown for the INT since it was more of a "Weeden Mistake" than a Brown play. I'm just thankful it's not C.C. Brown or Aaron Rouse back there while we wait for KP to return.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
          Even with this mistake on Brown that led to the touchdown, he overall had a decent game. I'm not sure how much credit I really want to give to Brown for the INT since it was more of a "Weeden Mistake" than a Brown play. I'm just thankful it's not C.C. Brown or Aaron Rouse back there while we wait for KP to return.
          Yeah Brown had a pretty decent game, that was the only glaring mistake I seen by him and he coughed up to it. He will learn and only get better. He is a way better backup then CC Brown and Ross.. KP needs to come back soon though, he's a badass back there!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
            If it was a corner route then why was the receiver running a deep middle seam? We talking about the same play?

            I could very well be wrong ... as I said earlier, many times the safeties talk and understand who is going to be covering the gray area of the field on a given play. I just have a hard time seeing the last guy being the 4th string rookie, when we have a "star" veteran there.
            Second time you said "4th string rookie"...you know Stevie Brown is a third year player, right?

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            • #36
              to be fair to the OPs analysis it did "Look" like rolle was out of position on that play.
              My 5 year old son right before the kickoff of the Super Bowl 46: Dad, are the Giants gonna win?

              Burier: Yes.

              My 5 year old son right before the kickoff of Super Bowl 46: Do you promise?

              Burier: Yes. I promise.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by burier View Post
                to be fair to the OPs analysis it did "Look" like rolle was out of position on that play.
                The announcers blamed it Rolle too.

                Generally when you have players chasing a guy and far behind, it wasent their fault.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by lamas View Post
                  Second time you said "4th string rookie"...you know Stevie Brown is a third year player, right?
                  First start though no?

                  I understand that that doesn't make him a true rookie ... was just trying to illustrate a point.
                  I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
                    First start though no?

                    I understand that that doesn't make him a true rookie ... was just trying to illustrate a point.
                    Second. He started the last game of his rookie year in 2010.

                    I'm not trying to split hairs with you. I enjoy reading 'Kruunch's Take', but wanted to correct you on this.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by burier View Post
                      Our linebackers suck.

                      Oh and Micheal Boley? Michael Boley? I told you guys last season he was playing out of his mind and that we shouldn't assume he'll double up. And for the people who lov Kiwi at linebacker....I didn't see him doing too much "funneling" sunday. He's as much a non-factor at backer as Tuck and Osi are at end.

                      u do realize boley has 3 ints and is like 2nd in the nfl for ints...he almost had 1 vs philly (honestly he should have had that pass to celek that split double coverage) and iirc almost had one vs cleveland...guys been hurt, he still aint 100% and he's made a helluva an impact. so far he's prob our d mvp bc his 3 ints have just about been the only time we've stopped opponents drives before scoring

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
                        First start though no?

                        I understand that that doesn't make him a true rookie ... was just trying to illustrate a point.
                        lol no u werent, u were wrong but i applaud the attempt

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
                          That's one of those plays that makes you appreciate KP because he is rarely out of position and shines in covering the deep end of the field.
                          didnt he like not allow a pass to go over him for a td last yr or something? i remember reading a helluva stat on his coverage last season

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by EnragedYouth85 View Post
                            As you can see by this video, the pass is clearly on Browns side of the field. You can also see Brown way up on the short route when he should be been playing deep..

                            http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-m...don-62-yard-TD
                            yeah but the wr aligned presnap on rolles side. i'd say it was just a bad play call and bad play by both safeties. rolle wasnt like chasing hm 10 yds away, he was virtually a step behind. the route prob developed on rolles 1/2 of the field, which is understandable for brown making his mistake bc he prob felt he had no one threaten his responsibility and moved up to cover the shorter route, which can sometimes actually be a savvy move by a S (but also can lead to getting burnt deep)....it was just a great play call and great throw vs a defense that wasnt properly ready to defend it...lets not forget, it was a PA and the pass rush shoulda gotten there as well

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                              Its not a seam, he is running a corner route, he just turns up field once he clears the safety instead of continuing towards the corner. He is outside the numbers when he reaches the endzone.

                              Sorry man, but even Brown has said it was his fault. Let it go. Brown is not Polamalu, and Rolle is not at fault on this play.

                              And you know I am no Rolle homer.
                              wasnt it a post route or am i confusing plays?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
                                yeah but the wr aligned presnap on rolles side.
                                That doesnt matter, Rolles responsibility was to be the deepest player on his side of the field, which he did.

                                Brown did not.

                                It may have been designed as a post route, but once Brown came up, he bent the route outwards to keep yardage on Rolle.

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