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  • Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
    i still can't believe how JH responded. He acted like KG just robbed a bank high on PCP and then running over people driving the getaway car. I still dunno if JHrealizes that KG was actually paying Smith and the 9ers a big compliment. The focal point of what KG wasnt the defensive holding, it was how much of a beast J.Smith is and the extreme talent level of that D and how its as good as any we've faced....it especially annoys me how JH tries making it a "Giants coaches criticizing the officials"...like the guy is just a pompous, pretentious, hypocritical d-bag most of the time.
    Harbaugh is upset because:

    1) It's the truth
    2) It is now a story
    3) Stories get exposure
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    • When I heard this story the first thing I thought was "brilliant move by Gilbride" Now Justin Smith will have to think twice about holding offensive lineman during the game. This was nothing more then a tactical move by Gilbride. And I love it...

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      • Originally posted by ny06 View Post
        When I heard this story the first thing I thought was "brilliant move by Gilbride" Now Justin Smith will have to think twice about holding offensive lineman during the game. This was nothing more then a tactical move by Gilbride. And I love it...
        I agree 100%
        "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

        "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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        • Originally posted by ny06 View Post
          When I heard this story the first thing I thought was "brilliant move by Gilbride" Now Justin Smith will have to think twice about holding offensive lineman during the game. This was nothing more then a tactical move by Gilbride. And I love it...
          Agree...very Phil Jackson-esque of KG. Great mustaches think alike

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          • Refs hate ny teams, nothing we can do about it. Even umpires give yankees pitchers a smaller strike zone always, screw them all.

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            • He should focus on teaching his two blockers how to disengage one guy and cover the stunt.

              If Justin Smith is holding two of the Giant's lineman, you need new lineman.

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              • Originally posted by Captain Chaos View Post
                How could this possibly be foolish in a game of inches? I would rethink your argument. In regards to Gilbride, I would like to give him the credit for trying to bring this issue up for the Refs to look at but he's really not that outspoken of a guy (he got punched in the face by the head coach one day). I think he was just providing an honest assessment. But if he did than what an outstanding move, the Niner's and refs and the Camera men will be on notice. Should be fun to watch!
                know what you're arguing.

                the person i responded to said "Not shocking that this joke of a team all of a sudden became good."

                So if he is indeed getting away with holding, then the offense is improved because of it as well, the entire defense is improved as well. I guess smith's holding impact favorably their special teams and coaching too. the OP to my response was just tacking on excuses as to why the 9ers are a good team and I corrected it.

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                • I am not saying this because I'm a homer. But I can't remember the last time a player on the Giants pulling a Flozel Adams. The G-Men typically play a really classy game. I can't lie, and I know it's bad. But I sometimes I wish the our team would dish out the same punish. I know it's not right, but when I see things not called, during games. I get up.
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                  • I really don't understand all this uproar. Every team does something illegal in the trenches when an official isn't looking. They're doing whatever they can to win. The Giants are no better. If the injury faking incident didn't occur in the Rams game last year then we probably wouldn't be celebrating a fourth Super Bowl. I would like to think we're classy enough to not pull those moves but no one is ideal and I'm sure some of the G-men's linemen do some holding themselves. But I would like to point out that the Giants do things like this very very little so I guess frequency matters. And like how ny06 pointed out: this is mental warfare right now. They're trying to get into each other's head. Well played Gilbride, well played.
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                    • Originally posted by FIFTY6G-MAN View Post
                      Maybe if we ignore you and your 10 posts, you will go away.
                      Pardon me. I posted on the wrong thread; I thought I posted on BParcell777's new thread; my mistake. But I would like to ask that how does the number of posts one have any relevance to the matter here. Apparently if one has a small number of posts he/she supposedly knows little or nothing about football. I see this a lot and wonder where this bias comes from.
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                      • Originally posted by rtahsin View Post
                        Pardon me. I posted on the wrong thread; I thought I posted on BParcell777's new thread; my mistake. But I would like to ask that how does the number of posts one have any relevance to the matter here. Apparently if one has a small number of posts he/she supposedly knows little or nothing about football. I see this a lot and wonder where this bias comes from.
                        I know, I've tried to use post count arguments against my wife...still doesn't work.

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                        • Proof that Gilbride knew exactly what he was doing:

                          GILBRIDE: HARBAUGH STATEMENT WAS "SHOCKER"
                          Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride admitted that he was “shocked” by Niners coach Jim Harbaugh’s statement on Friday. Harbaugh, responding to Gilbride’s criticisms of 49ers defensive tackle Justin Smith, had called Gilbride “irrational” and “outrageous” that afternoon.

                          Gilbride said he did not speak to Harbaugh Sunday, but he was surprised that his suggestion that Smith “gets away with murder” by routinely committing defensive holding drew such ire from Harbaugh.

                          “I have great respect for their front, and I have unbelievable respect for the guy (Smith), tremendous,” Gilbride said. “But it (defensive holding) is something he does. He reaches out and grabs people.”
                          He added that he was surprised by Harbaugh’s rip because he had also complimented Smith on Thursday.

                          “I thought it was just in a litany of compliments . . . all of a sudden, he (Harbaugh) turned it into a negative thing . . . It was great. All of a sudden, now everybody in the country saw it. It worked well."

                          http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/gia...100-wasnt-hard

                          LOL Gilbride.....you're something else. LOL.....

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                          • Originally posted by Cool Papa B. View Post
                            "Smith is a beast on the inside, he’s strong, he does as good a job of grabbing a hold of offensive linemen and allowing those twists to take place. He never gets called for it so he gets away with murder. That, in conjunction with the ability level they have, makes them as formidable as anybody we go against, and we go against some pretty good ones in Dallas’ and Philadelphia’s. They’re as good as anybody up front."

                            http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs...e-7699275eafd0

                            I don't watch enough 49er games to know, but how true is this? Anyone have videos of this?

                            I'll be watching for it on Sunday.
                            They actually did show an example of it during the game. I was surprised that they went there. They showed him, and said, that he was holding 2 o-lineman while one of his teammates rushes through the line. Fox analysts said that they loved to do it and do it all of the time.

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                            • Originally posted by JJC7301 View Post
                              They actually did show an example of it during the game. I was surprised that they went there. They showed him, and said, that he was holding 2 o-lineman while one of his teammates rushes through the line. Fox analysts said that they loved to do it and do it all of the time.
                              I know. I saw it. I had a feeling earlier in the week that Gilbride said those things mainly to play a mind game with Harbaugh's and to put the focus on him and their DLine. And with what Gilbride just said, I wuss right

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                              • Originally posted by Cool Papa B. View Post
                                Proof that Gilbride knew exactly what he was doing:

                                GILBRIDE: HARBAUGH STATEMENT WAS "SHOCKER"
                                Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride admitted that he was “shocked” by Niners coach Jim Harbaugh’s statement on Friday. Harbaugh, responding to Gilbride’s criticisms of 49ers defensive tackle Justin Smith, had called Gilbride “irrational” and “outrageous” that afternoon.

                                Gilbride said he did not speak to Harbaugh Sunday, but he was surprised that his suggestion that Smith “gets away with murder” by routinely committing defensive holding drew such ire from Harbaugh.

                                “I have great respect for their front, and I have unbelievable respect for the guy (Smith), tremendous,” Gilbride said. “But it (defensive holding) is something he does. He reaches out and grabs people.”
                                He added that he was surprised by Harbaugh’s rip because he had also complimented Smith on Thursday.

                                “I thought it was just in a litany of compliments . . . all of a sudden, he (Harbaugh) turned it into a negative thing . . . It was great. All of a sudden, now everybody in the country saw it. It worked well."

                                http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/gia...100-wasnt-hard

                                LOL Gilbride.....you're something else. LOL.....
                                ya know, i had a theory that i didnt really wanna share bc it was bold and even tho i predicted we'd win by a few possessions and Smith would have 2 ints, I wasnt ready to go out on the ledge by making my theory public. now that we've won, and seeing how SF played, I'm sure now that it wasnt a theory, it was reality. and that is;

                                I believe Harbaugh was worried SF was gonna lose this game. He must have seen something during practice or had a feeling or respected elis game, something. bc i think that JH made that comment not to dig at KG, but to fire up his team/Defense. KG DID compliment Smith and that 9er d. The whole "he holds" thing was so minor in context to what KG said. And JH is smart enough to know that. Thats what made his lil diatribe confusing, why would he say what he did even if KG was being disrespectful, which he wasnt. he was trying to fire up his DL maybe, trying to fire up J.Smith bc I know SF has had issues rushing the passer...

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