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    Just watching this kid's highlights from Snappin's highlight thread and I got to thinking, I don't want to get way ahead of myself, but this kid seems like a gem who could turn into one of the best in the league as early as next year.

    His speed and his cutting is just phenomenal. When I watch him, I get the sense that any play could be a homerun. I just see something different from watching him play than when I watch Trent Richardson or Doug Martin, who were both ranked ahead of him in the draft.

    Every week he gets more and more time, and he does more and more with it. By the time he starts carrying the heavier half of the load, whenever that is, I think he will be one of the top running backs in the league.

  • #2
    It's amazing how perceptions of him have changed, there was so much outrage at that pick. The "should've traded up for Martin" and "should've drafted Fleener" group have certainly quietened down.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
      It's amazing how perceptions of him have changed, there was so much outrage at that pick. The "should've traded up for Martin" and "should've drafted Fleener" group have certainly quietened down.
      Yea, and after the first game "we should have drafted OL"....now our TE is great, our O line seems to be creating holes against great defenses, and everyday it seems like Wilson was the BPA.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by egyptian420 View Post
        Yea, and after the first game "we should have drafted OL"....now our TE is great, our O line seems to be creating holes against great defenses, and everyday it seems like Wilson was the BPA.
        I didn't have doubts about Wilson being BPA, and I wasn't worried about TE after we signed the Unicorn. I was, however, one of those guys that griped heavily on not selecting an OL until round 5. I had thought that with a competent OL, Jacobs (before he left) and Bradshaw would have resurgent years. At least having Beatty healthy and signing Locklear helped tremendously. And yes, it has turned out that an OL improvement helped our running game, just look at the last 2 weeks. So I was still partially right...

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        • #5
          Bradshaw looked alot like Wilson, not quite as explosive, but his homerun against the Bills in his breakout year had some of the same feel to it.

          Things changed a little when bradshaw had to carry most of the load himself, we've all seen how its taken away some of his speed and explosiveness

          i just hope Wilson listens to bradshaw and learns to run efficiently and protect himself were he can, bradshaw made comments about this is the offseason. And i want to see what he can do trying to pound it too, he'll be so much more effective if he can run really well inside.

          But i have to be honest, just having someone fresh and dangerous on ST is more of a thrill than anything else right now. I love his running game as much as the next guy, but we've had some great ground attacks over the last 10 years. He's the first real threat on ST that i can remember in a long, long, time.
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          • #6
            Just remember that Bradshaw was a 7th rounder because his feet were a known issue. As far as anyone knows, Wilson doesn't have the same physical problems...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by CDN_G-FAN View Post
              Bradshaw looked alot like Wilson, not quite as explosive, but his homerun against the Bills in his breakout year had some of the same feel to it.

              Things changed a little when bradshaw had to carry most of the load himself, we've all seen how its taken away some of his speed and explosiveness

              i just hope Wilson listens to bradshaw and learns to run efficiently and protect himself were he can, bradshaw made comments about this is the offseason. And i want to see what he can do trying to pound it too, he'll be so much more effective if he can run really well inside.

              But i have to be honest, just having someone fresh and dangerous on ST is more of a thrill than anything else right now. I love his running game as much as the next guy, but we've had some great ground attacks over the last 10 years. He's the first real threat on ST that i can remember in a long, long, time.
              His returns are one thing I'm not looking forward to missing when he becomes the #1 back in the future.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                I didn't have doubts about Wilson being BPA, and I wasn't worried about TE after we signed the Unicorn. I was, however, one of those guys that griped heavily on not selecting an OL until round 5. I had thought that with a competent OL, Jacobs (before he left) and Bradshaw would have resurgent years. At least having Beatty healthy and signing Locklear helped tremendously. And yes, it has turned out that an OL improvement helped our running game, just look at the last 2 weeks. So I was still partially right...
                i had a conversation with an old friend who works in the CFL, its mickey mouse compared to the NFL, but there's alot of can't-make-it or retooled NFLers there too. We spent most of our time talking about front office stuff since that's where he works.

                We were talking draft and he told me about a really human element in the drafting process. scouts know that their reputation is based on the success of the picks they recommend.

                he was explaining that no one will remember that we needed a OL pick early in 2009, so that's why we took Huckleberry Nebraska because he was the best available OL in that round, even though their scouting showed some risks in the pick (work ethic, intelligence, coaching feedback, whatever), all they'll remember is that Huckleberry was a total bust and we wasted a 3rd round pick. Conversely, if you pick a guy who you think will definitely contribute even in a position where you look like you're set (kiwi, JPP), if the player turns out to be good, you still look like a good scout, even though you still may have holes in your roster.

                of course the flipside is that if you pass over someone available in a position of need, and a few years later those players turn into starters, especially if your board had them alot lower, FOs notice that too.

                Anyway, the point is we all talk about how we need OL or TE or some other position going into the draft, i guess most of us don't consider that scouts see a real downside for their careers and reputations recommending picks based mostly on need. and i don't blame them.
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                • #9
                  I look for the Giants to get a pounding style of RB in thenear future to compliment Wilson. Maybe Andre can fill that roll somewhat.
                  Its all about keeping theses guys fresh.
                  "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CDN_G-FAN View Post
                    i had a conversation with an old friend who works in the CFL, its mickey mouse compared to the NFL, but there's alot of can't-make-it or retooled NFLers there too. We spent most of our time talking about front office stuff since that's where he works.

                    We were talking draft and he told me about a really human element in the drafting process. scouts know that their reputation is based on the success of the picks they recommend.

                    he was explaining that no one will remember that we needed a OL pick early in 2009, so that's why we took Huckleberry Nebraska because he was the best available OL in that round, even though their scouting showed some risks in the pick (work ethic, intelligence, coaching feedback, whatever), all they'll remember is that Huckleberry was a total bust and we wasted a 3rd round pick. Conversely, if you pick a guy who you think will definitely contribute even in a position where you look like you're set (kiwi, JPP), if the player turns out to be good, you still look like a good scout, even though you still may have holes in your roster.

                    of course the flipside is that if you pass over someone available in a position of need, and a few years later those players turn into starters, especially if your board had them alot lower, FOs notice that too.

                    Anyway, the point is we all talk about how we need OL or TE or some other position going into the draft, i guess most of us don't consider that scouts see a real downside for their careers and reputations recommending picks based mostly on need. and i don't blame them.
                    its funny because a lot of people were mad because they thought taking a RB was taking a position of need as opposed to one of value, especially after Martin was off the board

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by egyptian420 View Post
                      its funny because a lot of people were mad because they thought taking a RB was taking a position of need as opposed to one of value, especially after Martin was off the board
                      yeah...I dont get into all that ****. I figure the FO knows what they are doing in the draft. I dont piss and moan abiout who they take and when they take them.
                      "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
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                      • #12
                        Yards From Scrimmage Comparison

                        Trent Richardson - 526 yards - on 117 total touches

                        Doug Martin - 431 yards - on 94 total touches

                        David Wilson - 630 - on 35 total touches.

                        Granted he returns and they don't they and start and he doesn't but they have had much more touches all around then he has.
                        Last edited by Signature NYG; 10-18-2012, 10:01 AM.

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                        • #13
                          I think David Wilson has the potential to be a top 5, and one of the greatest backs this team's ever had. I really think he's THAT good. He just needs to hold on to the ball.

                          Wilson is going to be so valuable as Eli gets older when we need a more balanced attack.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                            I look for the Giants to get a pounding style of RB in thenear future to compliment Wilson. Maybe Andre can fill that roll somewhat. Its all about keeping theses guys fresh.
                            I think they're both already here
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                              yeah...I dont get into all that ****. I figure the FO knows what they are doing in the draft. I dont piss and moan abiout who they take and when they take them.
                              AMEN
                              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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