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  • Illegal chop blocking

    The Giants got called for this last week which was absolute BS.

    Now the Seahawks essentially lose the game due to a safety for another one of these BS calls. Was anyone watching that? Smith was 'engaged' with the OT and the guard came over to help out and hit him in the gut/waist area and knocked him on his ***. Absolute legal play.

    Besides, the niners have scored 1...ONE touchdown in two games and barely beat the seahawks. They aren't as good as everyone thinks I dont get it..

  • #2
    That was a horse#### call, I don't think that was an intentional chop block, the guy's momentum just carried him.

    Can't believe this game got decided based on such a wack call

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    • #3
      IMO the Seahawks are offensively HORRIBLE and slightly above average on defense. The fact that "the best team in football 49ers" won in that fashion says nothing about the niners. They are mediocre. Plain and simple.

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      • #4
        They didn't lose to a safety. The 49ers declined the penalty instead. They measured and reviewed the pass... it was short of a first down.

        But it was a bad call by Jim Harbarugh b/c a safety would've put them up by 2 possession (15-6) with the ball and b/c the 4th down play was very close, i would've taken the safety and the ball back (of course Seattle would've tried an onside kick but 49ers would've been prepared)

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        • #5
          True, but you never know what could have happened that play. What if Wilson threw a 60 yard pass? Or a touchdown?

          It wouldn't have counted due to a penalty that didnt exist...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CowboysSuck View Post
            The Giants got called for this last week which was absolute BS.

            Now the Seahawks essentially lose the game due to a safety for another one of these BS calls. Was anyone watching that? Smith was 'engaged' with the OT and the guard came over to help out and hit him in the gut/waist area and knocked him on his ***. Absolute legal play.

            Besides, the niners have scored 1...ONE touchdown in two games and barely beat the seahawks. They aren't as good as everyone thinks I dont get it..
            As a matter of fact, I agree with the flag there. That's a textbook chop block and the penalty is designed to protect the players, as many penalties are nowadays. It had no impact on the game, as Harbaugh declined the penalty. My best guess on that is that he didn't want to risk injury on the punt return. But, definitely a justified call. Just because it was in a critical spot doesn't mean that it was illegitimate

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            • #7
              Originally posted by PETEY006 View Post
              They didn't lose to a safety. The 49ers declined the penalty instead. They measured and reviewed the pass... it was short of a first down.But it was a bad call by Jim Harbarugh b/c a safety would've put them up by 2 possession (15-6) with the ball and b/c the 4th down play was very close, i would've taken the safety and the ball back (of course Seattle would've tried an onside kick but 49ers would've been prepared)
              i was wondering the same thing as to why he declined the penalty. Why not take a two possession lead with 50 seconds left??? What was his logic?? What if there was a bad exchange between the center and smith on the kneel down? Highly unlikely but you never know
              Football has been very, very good to us.
              After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
              But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

              # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

              1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
              2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
              3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
              4-New York Giants!!!
              5-NE
              Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

              ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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              • #8
                Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                i was wondering the same thing as to why he declined the penalty. Why not take a two possession lead with 50 seconds left??? What was his logic?? What if there was a bad exchange between the center and smith on the kneel down? Highly unlikely but you never know
                Maybe he was afraid Pete Caroll (for all intents and purposes his coaching arch-rival) would pull a Schiano on him?

                I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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                • #9
                  Seahawks have a good defense and are the 49ers rivers in their own division. A lot of times we say games withint the division are hard. The play was illegal.

                  Another thing, Harbough decline the penalty cause he didn't have to take it so why just end the game anyways cause the seattle didn't get the first.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                    i was wondering the same thing as to why he declined the penalty. Why not take a two possession lead with 50 seconds left??? What was his logic?? What if there was a bad exchange between the center and smith on the kneel down? Highly unlikely but you never know
                    It made sense to me.

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                    • #11
                      It was not called right. Do you guys even know what an illegal chop block is? Its not 'pushing' someone' in the waist...Lol

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                      • #12
                        It was a BS call, but it in no way cost the Seahawks the game.
                        I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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                        • #13
                          I think Harbaugh had a brain fart when he declined that penalty. Really seemed like he forgot that the spot of the ball would be under review.

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                          • #14
                            i don't mind them being overly sensitive about chop blocks. i don't like bad calls, but i understand.

                            i think of them as dirty dirty plays and i wish they would expand the rules to require higher blocks, especially on the line. there's all kinds of loopholes that zone blocking teams have to block really low.
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                            • #15
                              this explains the chop block rule pretty clearly:

                              Here’s the official rule, which a league source has forwarded to PFT: “On a running play, A1, an offensive lineman, chops a defensive player after the defensive player has been engaged by A2 (high or low), and the initial alignment of A2 is more than one position away from A1. The rule applies only when the block occurs at a time when the flow of the play is clearly away from A1.”

                              And so, if the center hits a guy high and a tackle hits him low, it’s a penalty. When it’s a center and one of the two guards, the chop block is not illegal.

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