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    Eli Manning Is Presiding Over The Greatest Era of Giants' Football In The Team's Long, Storied History

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...icle-1.1190832

    Excerpt: "
    There has never been a better time to be a fan of the football Giants than right now.

    Go back as far as you want, throw in the 1950s and early 60s, when the Giants were as big-city glamorous as any team we've ever had in any sports, even if they went to six championship games and only won one.

    This is better.

    Over the past five years, there has been no team more fun to root for, in any sport, than the Giants of Tom Coughlin, mostly the Giants of Eli Manning.

    Giants fans know why: Because every Sunday has a chance to be like last Sunday. Every Sunday you know there is a chance for another comeback or another fourth quarter, every Sunday there is a chance that when Eli is up against it he can haul off and throw one to Victor Cruz the way he threw one to Mario Manningham in the last Super Bowl.

    Heat fans might want to argue with you about this, especially if LeBron's first title is only the beginning for him and for his team. They might want to argue in San Francisco if their baseball team can somehow win their second World Series in three seasons, win it after coming from 0-2 behind in a five-game series and 1-3 down against the defending champions of the world, might want to say that there is nothing better right now than being a fan of the baseball Giants.

    Fans of the football Giants know better." Read more...
    Last edited by RoanokeFan; 10-24-2012, 08:53 AM.
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

  • #2
    All eyes are on Eli. He is the one to get it done. Good article. I love being a NYGs fan. Love knowing that Eli gives us a better than average chance to win. Giants time is now. Our time is now.

    I am already wondering who will be the next Giants' STAR in the SB. Can't be Tyree or Manningham.

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    • #3
      Let me tell you the difference between this era and the era of the late eighties.
      Today, we all look at our schedule and we see a win here, a loss here, a couple wins here etc....
      With the Phil Simms team, we would look at the schedule and see win, win, win, win, win,,,,,,,,,
      We were simply a dominant football team. A team that everyone was afraid of. If we played anywhere near our potential, we were unbeatable by any team in the NFL.

      I just think in pure dominance, that era was better.
      Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
        Let me tell you the difference between this era and the era of the late eighties.
        Today, we all look at our schedule and we see a win here, a loss here, a couple wins here etc....
        With the Phil Simms team, we would look at the schedule and see win, win, win, win, win,,,,,,,,,
        We were simply a dominant football team. A team that everyone was afraid of. If we played anywhere near our potential, we were unbeatable by any team in the NFL.

        I just think in pure dominance, that era was better.
        I agree ... with the possible exception of the 2008 team, the 1986 team had Super Bowl written all over it. It was a study in how to create a Super Bowl caliber team in a few years against division and conference specific opponents. And you *feared* to play the Giants (mostly because we wracked up the most QB knockouts in 86).

        However, I was never as confident in any Giants as I am with this one to win a come-from-behind-last-minute win. In the 80s, you knew almost from the first quarter who was going to win and who was going to lose. You don't have that with this team. This team can win on any given Sunday in any given fourth quarter.

        I've never seen a QB as poised as Eli is under those circumstances (and that includes Joe Montana).
        I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
          Let me tell you the difference between this era and the era of the late eighties.
          Today, we all look at our schedule and we see a win here, a loss here, a couple wins here etc....
          With the Phil Simms team, we would look at the schedule and see win, win, win, win, win,,,,,,,,,
          We were simply a dominant football team. A team that everyone was afraid of. If we played anywhere near our potential, we were unbeatable by any team in the NFL.

          I just think in pure dominance, that era was better.

          Interesting thought...I really bought into the article when I read it....but after reading what you just wrote...you are right.... in a year like 86 ...teams were looking at us and worried if they could beat us....I think the difference comes down to parity and salary cap....there really arent truly dominant teams the way it used to be...so it really comes down to the difference in perception
          "When I was 15, I could not believe how dumb my father was.....when I was 25, I could not believe how much he had learned in 10 years"

          1st to use the phrase "In Reese we trust"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
            I agree ... with the possible exception of the 2008 team, the 1986 team had Super Bowl written all over it. It was a study in how to create a Super Bowl caliber team in a few years against division and conference specific opponents. And you *feared* to play the Giants (mostly because we wracked up the most QB knockouts in 86).

            However, I was never as confident in any Giants as I am with this one to win a come-from-behind-last-minute win. In the 80s, you knew almost from the first quarter who was going to win and who was going to lose. You don't have that with this team. This team can win on any given Sunday in any given fourth quarter.

            I've never seen a QB as poised as Eli is under those circumstances (and that includes Joe Montana).
            I think we saw how thin that 2008 team really was. One, underperforming WR could be used as an excuse for our losing 5 of our last 6.
            The reality is that the 2008 team was much more flawed than we thought.
            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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            • #7
              btw morehead I got into an interesting.. yet short discussion about dynastys yesterday that I would have enjoyed your input
              "When I was 15, I could not believe how dumb my father was.....when I was 25, I could not believe how much he had learned in 10 years"

              1st to use the phrase "In Reese we trust"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by fansince69 View Post
                Interesting thought...I really bought into the article when I read it....but after reading what you just wrote...you are right.... in a year like 86 ...teams were looking at us and worried if they could beat us....I think the difference comes down to parity and salary cap....there really arent truly dominant teams the way it used to be...so it really comes down to the difference in perception
                I certainly agree regarding the impact of the salary cap and free agency. All teams nowadays are flawed, including ours. But our team is not dominant, at least not at the moment. Its a fun time to be a Giants fan, because our team is good, dynamic, and capable of beating anyone. But unfortunately, we are capable of losing to most anyone as well.
                Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by fansince69 View Post
                  btw morehead I got into an interesting.. yet short discussion about dynastys yesterday that I would have enjoyed your input
                  Hahaha!!!
                  I'm old school when it comes to dynasties. I think sports dynasties need to be over an extended period of time. Like almost everything else however, the modern world seems to be lowering the standards of even that.
                  Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                    I certainly agree regarding the impact of the salary cap and free agency. All teams nowadays are flawed, including ours. But our team is not dominant, at least not at the moment. Its a fun time to be a Giants fan, because our team is good, dynamic, and capable of beating anyone. But unfortunately, we are capable of losing to most anyone as well.
                    hence the phrase" any given Sunday"
                    honestly was not quite as prominent back before this era....did teams lose game they should win? of course....but it was not nearly as prevalent as it is today
                    "When I was 15, I could not believe how dumb my father was.....when I was 25, I could not believe how much he had learned in 10 years"

                    1st to use the phrase "In Reese we trust"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                      I think we saw how thin that 2008 team really was. One, underperforming WR could be used as an excuse for our losing 5 of our last 6.
                      The reality is that the 2008 team was much more flawed than we thought.
                      I disagree entirely with that.

                      The 2008 team was the most balanced well rounded Giants team in its history within the Super Bowl era. Of the last 4 games (we cliched a playoff berth in November and the Division in the first week of December) we won the only one that mattered (#1 seed against the eventual #2 seed Panthers). And that was after Plax shot himself.

                      The playoffs unfortunately were a different story. Eli had a horrible day and KG refused to go away from him even though we had a terrific run game that year.

                      Nothing thin about that team (as time has proven).

                      P.S. - We lost 4 of our last 5 (including the playoffs) in 2008 (not 5 of 6) ... we only lost 1 other game early on that season (trap game against the Browns) finishing with a 12-4 record. We absolutely demolished everyone in between.
                      I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                      • #12
                        parity and salary cap. But it also makes the Patriots, Steelers and Colts organisations look really really good being able to succeed in such an era. We've won 2 SBs, but we've been very inconsistent. Those teams have been as close to dominant as you can be in this era. If you were to draw a Parallel to any team of this era, it'd be to the forementioned 3.
                        http://boards.giants.com/showthread....est-game/page6
                        http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2554_A_brief,_fact-filled_history_of_the_NFL_passing_game.html
                        http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732732/is-new-york-giants-qb-eli-manning-worthy-hall-fame-espn-magazine

                        Entire Team Let Eli down today - NYG4l

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                          Let me tell you the difference between this era and the era of the late eighties.
                          Today, we all look at our schedule and we see a win here, a loss here, a couple wins here etc....
                          With the Phil Simms team, we would look at the schedule and see win, win, win, win, win,,,,,,,,,
                          We were simply a dominant football team. A team that everyone was afraid of. If we played anywhere near our potential, we were unbeatable by any team in the NFL.

                          I just think in pure dominance, that era was better.
                          In the Simms 14 years with the team, the Giants hd 5 losing seasons, and 7 playoff appearances. So far in Eli's 9 year career they have 1 losing season and 4 playoff appearances. With probably 6 real good years left, Eli's Giants are gonna surpass the Simms era's team as the most successful. And as far as being a scary dominant team in that era. There were only three years in Phil's career where the team was that dominant. 1986, 1989, 1990. And as far as playing up to their potential. This team has shown time and again that when they play to their potential, that they are the best team in football.

                          Like beating the undefeated Patriots in 2007. Beating the 15-1 Packers with the NFL MVP at QB, and all of the other road playoff games they have one. Teams are definately more afraid of Eli Manning than they ever were of Phil Simms. And I am not knocking that team. The 89 and 90 Giants are probably my favorite team of all time.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                            Hahaha!!!
                            I'm old school when it comes to dynasties. I think sports dynasties need to be over an extended period of time. Like almost everything else however, the modern world seems to be lowering the standards of even that.
                            I am pretty sure you and I agree on this...if you would like to read the discussion(cause I know this is a subject you like to debate lol) its on page 3 of the threads...it called "what Ive learned about this forum".....it starts on post 5 and then continues on the last page...id be interested in your take
                            "When I was 15, I could not believe how dumb my father was.....when I was 25, I could not believe how much he had learned in 10 years"

                            1st to use the phrase "In Reese we trust"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by nhpgiantsfan View Post
                              In the Simms 14 years with the team, the Giants hd 5 losing seasons, and 7 playoff appearances. So far in Eli's 9 year career they have 1 losing season and 4 playoff appearances. With probably 6 real good years left, Eli's Giants are gonna surpass the Simms era's team as the most successful. And as far as being a scary dominant team in that era. There were only three years in Phil's career where the team was that dominant. 1986, 1989, 1990. And as far as playing up to their potential. This team has shown time and again that when they play to their potential, that they are the best team in football.

                              Like beating the undefeated Patriots in 2007. Beating the 15-1 Packers with the NFL MVP at QB, and all of the other road playoff games they have one. Teams are definately more afraid of Eli Manning than they ever were of Phil Simms. And I am not knocking that team. The 89 and 90 Giants are probably my favorite team of all time.

                              Mmm you forgot 85 and 88. We didn't make the playoffs in 88 but we had a strong team (much stronger than the team that missed the playoffs in 2010 with a 10-6 record).

                              Under Eli we've only had two really dominant years (ironically, neither of them were the SB years) ... 2005 and 2008 (and possibly this year). 2006 we squeaked into the playoffs (had no business being there) and 2007 and 2011 were great late runs but very mediocre regular seasons.

                              Both eras had their own distinctive feels about them .... totally different types of teams. But as far as QBs go, Eli is heads and tails above Simms (and I loved Simms).
                              Last edited by Kruunch; 10-24-2012, 09:20 AM.
                              I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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