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  • DeAngelo Hall is correct in what he said.

    On the chalkboard im sure the play was supposed to be covered.
    I dont doubt that.
    However in the famous words of Tom Landry "The only problem with my game plans are the players".
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    So?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by thomsoad View Post
      On the chalkboard im sure the play was supposed to be covered.
      I dont doubt that.
      However in the famous words of Tom Landry "The only problem with my game plans are the players".
      Cruz is not coverable in that situtation when he and Eli are on the same page.
      The defender does not know if Cruz will act like he is
      running full speed, then stop short and run back 3 yards
      (hence defender tries to get over top and is out of positon).

      Or he does run full speed and defender thinks he might stop short
      and he doesn't, hence defender is behind.

      The 3rd problem for defenders, is that even if they guess right AND have double coverage,
      Cruz comes down with it many times anyway (although I can't stand those throws when Eli
      makes them).

      There is no play designed to cover all those options at the same time.

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      • #4
        So...the point is the Redskins Fd up...and we won.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by OX1 View Post
          Cruz is not coverable in that situtation when he and Eli are on the same page.
          The defender does not know if Cruz will act like he is
          running full speed, then stop short and run back 3 yards
          (hence defender tries to get over top and is out of positon).

          Or he does run full speed and defender thinks he might stop short
          and he doesn't, hence defender is behind.

          The 3rd problem for defenders, is that even if they guess right AND have double coverage,
          Cruz comes down with it many times anyway (although I can't stand those throws when Eli
          makes them).

          There is no play designed to cover all those options at the same time.
          The designed coverage im sure was to have the safety playing from behind. I doubt the Redskins playcall was designed for a WR to get behind the safety in a 2 minute drill.
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          • #6
            Am looking forward to more gifts from DeAngelo Hall in the future...

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            • #7
              My problem with that logic is...that can be use to explain away any play!!

              On RG's touch down to Moss Hosley was suppose to be man to man with Rolle playing safety over the top. Using Hall's logic we gave away that play to because it should have been covered.

              It's a joke! This whole we beat ourselves BS every team is using these days is just corny apparently nobody loses these days.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by The Notorious B.I.G BLUE View Post
                My problem with that logic is...that can be use to explain away any play!!

                On RG's touch down to Moss Hosley was suppose to be man to man with Rolle playing safety over the top. Using Hall's logic we gave away that play to because it should have been covered.

                It's a joke! This whole we beat ourselves BS every team is using these days is just corny apparently nobody loses these days.
                Exactly. Thats why every team says it ... including us.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by OX1 View Post
                  Cruz is not coverable in that situtation when he and Eli are on the same page.
                  The defender does not know if Cruz will act like he is
                  running full speed, then stop short and run back 3 yards
                  (hence defender tries to get over top and is out of positon).

                  Or he does run full speed and defender thinks he might stop short
                  and he doesn't, hence defender is behind.

                  The 3rd problem for defenders, is that even if they guess right AND have double coverage,
                  Cruz comes down with it many times anyway (although I can't stand those throws when Eli
                  makes them).

                  There is no play designed to cover all those options at the same time.
                  yes , all that is true for the CB.

                  but in that game situation the Safety must stay between the WR
                  and the end zone.he can not let the WR get behind him.
                  even if he has to commit a foul....better than yielding the winning TD.
                  it was absolutely the safety's bad on that play.
                  due to the fact that I am from the Woodstock generation ...
                  my opinions may be chemically enhanced and influenced by severe episodes of memory loss

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by OX1 View Post
                    Cruz is not coverable in that situtation when he and Eli are on the same page.
                    The defender does not know if Cruz will act like he is
                    running full speed, then stop short and run back 3 yards
                    (hence defender tries to get over top and is out of positon).

                    Or he does run full speed and defender thinks he might stop short
                    and he doesn't, hence defender is behind.

                    The 3rd problem for defenders, is that even if they guess right AND have double coverage,
                    Cruz comes down with it many times anyway (although I can't stand those throws when Eli
                    makes them).

                    There is no play designed to cover all those options at the same time.
                    Both Nicks and Cruz had double coverage ... Hall was one on one with Hixon.

                    From what I saw the safety was not expecting Cruz to just "go" and was caught flat footed - he was toast. The Skins could live with underneath completions, they really f'ed up by assuming the Giants would just go for what the Skins could live with...dummies.

                    Hall's also right in saying HE could have thrown that touchdown.... quite frankly MOST receivers catch that ball and score....

                    What makes that play is Eli and Cruz seeing the same thing at the same time... thats preparation - THATS what made it look simple... THATS what sets this apart from just a throw and a catch like Hall is making it out to be.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by thomsoad View Post
                      On the chalkboard im sure the play was supposed to be covered.
                      I dont doubt that.
                      However in the famous words of Tom Landry "The only problem with my game plans are the players".
                      a couple of things....
                      Cruz gave a slight fake for an outside move then just bolted. So they/he bit on the fake and then out ran two defenders. So they ****ed up BUT Cruz made them **** up....thats what a good offensive play is supposed to do.
                      "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                        a couple of things....
                        Cruz gave a slight fake for an outside move then just bolted. So they/he bit on the fake and then out ran two defenders. So they ****ed up BUT Cruz made them **** up....thats what a good offensive play is supposed to do.
                        I agree with you 100%
                        But the actual play itself is designed for the safety to be between Cruz and the endzone.
                        Its the safety that f'd up...not the designed play.
                        Thats why i am saying Hall is correct in what he said.

                        That or we are to believe that we designed a fool proof TD pass play that for some reason we rarely run.
                        Not sure what some people of getting all amped up about.
                        Almost all the X's and O's are virtually the same in every locker room.
                        The difference is preperation and execution.

                        Unless someone else can explain to me why Spags system worked so well here but not in St Louis or New Oreans?
                        Cuz he sure as hell didnt change his entire playbook when he left here.
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                        • #13
                          Why is this still a hot topic?


                          “Basically just stay with your man,” cornerback Janoris Jenkins said. “Follow him everywhere you go. Even if he goes to the bathroom, follow him.”

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BeatYale View Post
                            Why is this still a hot topic?
                            I think its an interesting topic becuz so many people are so offended by Halls comments.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by The Notorious B.I.G BLUE View Post
                              My problem with that logic is...that can be use to explain away any play!!

                              On RG's touch down to Moss Hosley was suppose to be man to man with Rolle playing safety over the top. Using Hall's logic we gave away that play to because it should have been covered.

                              It's a joke! This whole we beat ourselves BS every team is using these days is just corny apparently nobody loses these days.
                              The difference is Hosley admitted he messed up. No whining, no excuses. They made a play and we didn't.
                              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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