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  • Does Eli have arm fatigue?

    http://snygiants.com/eli-manning/is-...m-arm-fatigue/


    .......NFL Films Executive Director Greg Cosell, who specializes in breaking down quarterback footage, appeared on ESPN Radio with Colin Cowherd this morning and reluctantly confirmed what some Giant fans have been suspecting:

    "This may shock a few people, but I get a sense of watching the film that his arm might be a little tired. I don’t think the ball’s been coming out quite as well, particularly on the intermediate and deeper throws…Eli has a big arm. I just think that his arm might be a little tired. He’s not throwing with the same velocity, he’s not driving the ball down the field the way he has in his career."
    "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

    "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

  • #2
    Could be the late bye week, he will be fine. Maybe he does need some rest. Look at the bright side we are in full control of first place, if Eli is going to slump thank god it's happening while the rest of the east is losing. He will get hot at the right time you will see. He's proven himself to do just that.
    Not the actual Man, Myth, Legend....Just a Giant fan since birth, I come in peace

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    • #3
      I don't get this. He's not even that old in QB yrs. Why would his arm be tired?


      Maybe he hurt it lifting too many Lombardi trophies I don't know!

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      • #4
        Same number of attempts as Romo and Brady. Why would he be tired?

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        • #5
          Not sure if I buy the story either.....maybe it's a mechanical thing that can be worked out.
          "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

          "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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          • #6
            There are a lot of reasons for what might appear to be a tired arm, and it has nothing to do with number of attempts.
            A few weeks ago Eli took a hit and his right shoulder was driven into the turf.
            I think he has a sore shoulder from that hit.
            It will get better.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by zimonami View Post
              There are a lot of reasons for what might appear to be a tired arm, and it has nothing to do with number of attempts.
              A few weeks ago Eli took a hit and his right shoulder was driven into the turf.
              I think he has a sore shoulder from that hit.
              It will get better.
              I remember that hit Zim

              it looked like something that might result in some lingering effects for sure

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              • #8
                Originally posted by zimonami View Post
                There are a lot of reasons for what might appear to be a tired arm, and it has nothing to do with number of attempts.
                A few weeks ago Eli took a hit and his right shoulder was driven into the turf.
                I think he has a sore shoulder from that hit.
                It will get better.
                True. I actually wondered if he could be concealing an injury.

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                • #9
                  he seems to have mental fatigue

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cloud57 View Post
                    he seems to have mental fatigue
                    Yeah you is right. I agree.

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                    • #11
                      OK all the more reason to set up some short stuff

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Captain Chaos View Post
                        OK all the more reason to set up some short stuff
                        They keep throwing the long stuff, but never run short routes. I keep thinking they'll throw some 7-8 yard slants, but we never do Forget about the fact that teams that beat us do it over the middle... the short 7-8 yard passes, and 14-17 yards over the middle. We threw a short slant to Cruz last week in the first Qtr., and that was also the last time
                        A running back going out for a pass? Fuggetaboutit
                        I think the mental fatique that some speculate is frustration by Eli.
                        They need to discuss plays to run on the sideline, then leave the game entirely to him. Only send in an occasional play. Let Eli run the 2 minute/no huddle offense any time he decides. Geez, there are few better than him at it.
                        I think Eli is finally being frustrated by the handcuffs. Once the game begins, Gilbride stfu and take a seat and wait for Eli to come to him when he's not on the field.
                        Just do it one game... what have they got to lose? (Oh, an offensive Coordinator?)

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                        • #13
                          I don't know what you guys have been watching the past however many years it's been, but Eli never really throws the ball on a rope. Phil Simms in the beginning of his career used to throw so hard his receivers would drop it. In the beginning of Eli's career it was because he was always throwing off of his back foot. More recently he has been stepping into his throws, but he still doesn't throw the ball with a lot of zip most of the time. I don't think it's a function of his arm strength though, I just think he intentionally throws a more catchable ball with a degree of touch on it rather than firing it. When you fire it, you have to be much more accurate because the fight time is shorter. He tends to let his receivers make a play on the ball. Unfortunately sometimes the defense makes a play on it as well.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by zimonami View Post
                            They keep throwing the long stuff, but never run short routes. I keep thinking they'll throw some 7-8 yard slants, but we never do Forget about the fact that teams that beat us do it over the middle... the short 7-8 yard passes, and 14-17 yards over the middle. We threw a short slant to Cruz last week in the first Qtr., and that was also the last time
                            A running back going out for a pass? Fuggetaboutit
                            I think the mental fatique that some speculate is frustration by Eli.
                            They need to discuss plays to run on the sideline, then leave the game entirely to him. Only send in an occasional play. Let Eli run the 2 minute/no huddle offense any time he decides. Geez, there are few better than him at it.
                            I think Eli is finally being frustrated by the handcuffs. Once the game begins, Gilbride stfu and take a seat and wait for Eli to come to him when he's not on the field.
                            Just do it one game... what have they got to lose? (Oh, an offensive Coordinator?)
                            It would be funny to see what would happen if Eli, on his own, did this. Just said... screw-it.... I'm running this show...ignored the play call from sideline and just did what he wanted. (Of course he would be limited by player package). Would TC and KG explode? or just SU and watch? LOL
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                            • #15
                              Nah...its not a tired arm. I read in the paper where Eli said that the coaches havent been running as many 7 on 7 drills ...where our receivers go up against our DB's, and that when Coughlin asked Eli what he could do to help him, Eli asked Coughlin if they could make those drills a priority in practice,..... as Eli relied on those drills to get the timing down on routes.
                              So who knows..that might be what the problem has been so maybe now they can fix the passing game and get back to where they were.
                              All this time i've been asking the question...."what has happened to the tight passing game we had" and never heard anyone on the giants suggest anything specific....until I read that, and I said A HA....finally a clue to something specific that can be addressed and fixed!
                              Last edited by bigblue58; 11-09-2012, 06:50 PM. Reason: added something to make my point better
                              "I'M ALL FOR IT!"

                              John McKay, HC of the 1976 winless TB Buccaneers, when asked by a reporter, how McKay felt, about the execution of his offense.

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