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  • eli isn't the problem, he just represents the problem

    honestly, eli manning is not the problem with this team right now. he's going to take the blame, but there are so many other issues right now.

    1. corey webster is horrible and the corners are not that good. how do you let aj green have a walk in touchdown on the first drive of the game? then how is it that the corners seem to have good coverage yet constantly give up big plays in the pass game?

    2. special teams isn't doing anything good. they give up a 68 yard punt return after a penalty when weatherford put them deep in their own territory. they also couldn't open any lanes for wilson to return. lastly, wilson and randle couln't even decide who was going to take the kick return at one point.

    3. offensive line is horrendous right now. eli didn't have time to throw the ball. he should've held the ball, and taken sacks a couple times, but he had no time. there were also no holes for any running back to run through during that game.

    4. receivers and backs were terrible. on the few times eli had time to throw the football he ended up having to settle for a check down because nobody was getting open. there were drops all over the place, and don't even get me started on the game bradshaw had. his fumble, in my opinion, officially lost this game for them. they were going in for a score of some sort, and he coughs up the ball trying to get extra yards. took away all the momentum they had.

    5. defensive line. dalton had all day to throw.

    eli isn't playing well, but if you put this loss solely on him you're lost. other guys have to start making plays. they can't hope eli and jpp save them every week.

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    Thank you.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by erivera View Post
      honestly, eli manning is not the problem with this team right now. he's going to take the blame, but there are so many other issues right now.

      1. corey webster is horrible and the corners are not that good. how do you let aj green have a walk in touchdown on the first drive of the game? then how is it that the corners seem to have good coverage yet constantly give up big plays in the pass game?

      2. special teams isn't doing anything good. they give up a 68 yard punt return after a penalty when weatherford put them deep in their own territory. they also couldn't open any lanes for wilson to return. lastly, wilson and randle couln't even decide who was going to take the kick return at one point.

      3. offensive line is horrendous right now. eli didn't have time to throw the ball. he should've held the ball, and taken sacks a couple times, but he had no time. there were also no holes for any running back to run through during that game.

      4. receivers and backs were terrible. on the few times eli had time to throw the football he ended up having to settle for a check down because nobody was getting open. there were drops all over the place, and don't even get me started on the game bradshaw had. his fumble, in my opinion, officially lost this game for them. they were going in for a score of some sort, and he coughs up the ball trying to get extra yards. took away all the momentum they had.

      5. defensive line. dalton had all day to throw.

      eli isn't playing well, but if you put this loss solely on him you're lost. other guys have to start making plays. they can't hope eli and jpp save them every week.
      Eli is part of the problem
      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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      • #4
        Originally posted by erivera View Post
        honestly, eli manning is not the problem with this team right now. he's going to take the blame, but there are so many other issues right now.

        1. corey webster is horrible and the corners are not that good. how do you let aj green have a walk in touchdown on the first drive of the game? then how is it that the corners seem to have good coverage yet constantly give up big plays in the pass game?

        2. special teams isn't doing anything good. they give up a 68 yard punt return after a penalty when weatherford put them deep in their own territory. they also couldn't open any lanes for wilson to return. lastly, wilson and randle couln't even decide who was going to take the kick return at one point.

        3. offensive line is horrendous right now. eli didn't have time to throw the ball. he should've held the ball, and taken sacks a couple times, but he had no time. there were also no holes for any running back to run through during that game.

        4. receivers and backs were terrible. on the few times eli had time to throw the football he ended up having to settle for a check down because nobody was getting open. there were drops all over the place, and don't even get me started on the game bradshaw had. his fumble, in my opinion, officially lost this game for them. they were going in for a field goal, and he coughs up the ball trying to get extra yards. took away all the momentum they had.

        5. defensive line. dalton had all day to throw.

        eli isn't playing well, but if you put this loss solely on him you're lost. other guys have to start making plays. they can't hope eli and jpp save them every week.
        I fixed that little part for you lol. I agree, eli isn't playing well but i think he's a little worried about the pressure from the right side and its throwing him off his game a bit. Hopefully after the bye, we'll be fine.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
          Eli is part of the problem
          what i'm saying is that eli can't be perfect all the time. sometimes players need to step up and make plays. cruz drops a td late in the game. eli checks to a running play that worked and bradshaw fumbles. eli is scrambling all over the place because o-line can't protect. we look to him to make plays, but other guys need to step up and help him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by erivera View Post
            honestly, eli manning is not the problem with this team right now. he's going to take the blame, but there are so many other issues right now.

            1. corey webster is horrible and the corners are not that good. how do you let aj green have a walk in touchdown on the first drive of the game? then how is it that the corners seem to have good coverage yet constantly give up big plays in the pass game?

            2. special teams isn't doing anything good. they give up a 68 yard punt return after a penalty when weatherford put them deep in their own territory. they also couldn't open any lanes for wilson to return. lastly, wilson and randle couln't even decide who was going to take the kick return at one point.

            3. offensive line is horrendous right now. eli didn't have time to throw the ball. he should've held the ball, and taken sacks a couple times, but he had no time. there were also no holes for any running back to run through during that game.

            4. receivers and backs were terrible. on the few times eli had time to throw the football he ended up having to settle for a check down because nobody was getting open. there were drops all over the place, and don't even get me started on the game bradshaw had. his fumble, in my opinion, officially lost this game for them. they were going in for a score of some sort, and he coughs up the ball trying to get extra yards. took away all the momentum they had.

            5. defensive line. dalton had all day to throw.

            eli isn't playing well, but if you put this loss solely on him you're lost. other guys have to start making plays. they can't hope eli and jpp save them every week.
            While all this is true, there are very few posters here smart enough to even understand what you posted, let alone accept it as true.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by erivera View Post
              honestly, eli manning is not the problem with this team right now. he's going to take the blame, but there are so many other issues right now.

              1. corey webster is horrible and the corners are not that good. how do you let aj green have a walk in touchdown on the first drive of the game? then how is it that the corners seem to have good coverage yet constantly give up big plays in the pass game?
              Webster has played like crap but on that play Brown may have been responsible with help over the top.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                Eli is part of the problem
                So are TC and Gilbride.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by nygfan90 View Post
                  I fixed that little part for you lol. I agree, eli isn't playing well but i think he's a little worried about the pressure from the right side and its throwing him off his game a bit. Hopefully after the bye, we'll be fine.
                  i'll say they were going in for a td to make the bradshaw fumble seem worse. lol.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by erivera View Post
                    i'll say they were going in for a td to make the bradshaw fumble seem worse. lol.
                    lol fair enough

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                      Eli is part of the problem
                      I'm pretty sure that's obvious. I thought Eli was included in the rant...along with many, many, many just as other guilty parties.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Roosevelt View Post
                        Webster has played like crap but on that play Brown may have been responsible with help over the top.
                        brown might've been the culprit on that play, but webster has given up too many big plays for me to trust he was right on that play.

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                        • #13
                          Exactly.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                            Eli is part of the problem
                            Without a doubt. His decision making harkens back to his first few years in the league. He looks positively stupid out there lately, and it's getting worse every week. When people wonder why there are detractors when the "Eli is elite" talks start, they need to think about this 4 game stretch, where he has looked like a damn amateur out there. He's not the ONLY problem, mind you, but he is definitely a part of the problem.
                            The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd - Bertrand Russell

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                            • #15
                              after the bye coughling better go back to locklear on the line. diehl needs to sit.

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