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    I've read all of the threads but I still can't figure out what the Giants problem is. Can somebody tell me point blank what the Giantd main problem is?
    MANNING TO CRUZ....

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    The team is just in a big slump. It is mostly mental from what I've been seeing. We should have lost to Dallas and should have beat Pittsburgh. The Cincy loss was just a complete breakdown. Way too many mistakes let and opportunistic team capitalize off of them.

    Some things I noticed these past few weeks. Deihl should get demoted and utilized in other ways. I know what he has done for this franchise, but he is a liability. Locklear has showed that he is a capable starter. Coughlin needs to swallow that pride and let the better player start.

    Secondary lapses is one of the most infuriating things I've seen involving this team. Hosley leaving his feet instead of just securing the tackle. Stevie Brown/C.Webb miss calculating costing a huge AJ Green score. Mike Wallace burning the entire team for a game changing score. For those who thought Kenny Phillips isn't missed, are sadly mistaking.

    The D-line is inconsistent and the linebacker play is mediocre for some reason. I've noticed many teams running right up the gut or doing simple short passes to open things up. Change up the scheme because it looks like teams know exactly how to attack attack the defense.

    I have absolutely no understanding on what has happened to the special teams coverage as of late for it has been terrible. The last few games, poor ST play has been very costly.

    Bye week coming up is definitely needed because I think this team needs a little break to get that itch to win back.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by G.I. Ants View Post
      The team is just in a big slump. It is mostly mental from what I've been seeing. We should have lost to Dallas and should have beat Pittsburgh. The Cincy loss was just a complete breakdown. Way too many mistakes let and opportunistic team capitalize off of them.

      Some things I noticed these past few weeks. Deihl should get demoted and utilized in other ways. I know what he has done for this franchise, but he is a liability. Locklear has showed that he is a capable starter. Coughlin needs to swallow that pride and let the better player start.

      Secondary lapses is one of the most infuriating things I've seen involving this team. Hosley leaving his feet instead of just securing the tackle. Stevie Brown/C.Webb miss calculating costing a huge AJ Green score. Mike Wallace burning the entire team for a game changing score. For those who thought Kenny Phillips isn't missed, are sadly mistaking.

      The D-line is inconsistent and the linebacker play is mediocre for some reason. I've noticed many teams running right up the gut or doing simple short passes to open things up. Change up the scheme because it looks like teams know exactly how to attack attack the defense.

      I have absolutely no understanding on what has happened to the special teams coverage as of late for it has been terrible. The last few games, poor ST play has been very costly.

      Bye week coming up is definitely needed because I think this team needs a little break to get that itch to win back.
      Yup!!! They look tired and without spirit. They need some time to get their game together. They just look gassed.

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      • #4
        Phillips is solid, I agree, but they had plenty of breakdowns with him in the secondary as well.
        Originally posted by G.I. Ants View Post
        The team is just in a big slump. It is mostly mental from what I've been seeing. We should have lost to Dallas and should have beat Pittsburgh. The Cincy loss was just a complete breakdown. Way too many mistakes let and opportunistic team capitalize off of them.

        Some things I noticed these past few weeks. Deihl should get demoted and utilized in other ways. I know what he has done for this franchise, but he is a liability. Locklear has showed that he is a capable starter. Coughlin needs to swallow that pride and let the better player start.

        Secondary lapses is one of the most infuriating things I've seen involving this team. Hosley leaving his feet instead of just securing the tackle. Stevie Brown/C.Webb miss calculating costing a huge AJ Green score. Mike Wallace burning the entire team for a game changing score. For those who thought Kenny Phillips isn't missed, are sadly mistaking.

        The D-line is inconsistent and the linebacker play is mediocre for some reason. I've noticed many teams running right up the gut or doing simple short passes to open things up. Change up the scheme because it looks like teams know exactly how to attack attack the defense.

        I have absolutely no understanding on what has happened to the special teams coverage as of late for it has been terrible. The last few games, poor ST play has been very costly.

        Bye week coming up is definitely needed because I think this team needs a little break to get that itch to win back.

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        • #5
          I agree. Most of this slump is mental. But a lot of it is coaching too obviously. The players aren't the only reason the team is sucking.

          I sometimes wonder how the decision to start a player who is obviously unfit at his position while we have a more than competent guy sitting on the bench, is affecting the players psyche. We've got two situations like this right now. If we the fans can figure out that it is an awful idea, then how do you think the players are feeling? Maybe they don't want try as hard or put in as much effort if they feel the odds being are pushed against them. Who knows. Just some food for thought.
          Last edited by Rusty192; 11-12-2012, 09:19 PM.

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          • #6
            Because it is the second half of the season.
            WE ALREADY HAVE A GREAT RUNNING BACK:

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NJBLUE View Post
              I've read all of the threads but I still can't figure out what the Giants problem is. Can somebody tell me point blank what the Giantd main problem is?
              Well....when you figure it out, let TC know.

              We go through it every November and TC admitted last year that he doesn't know why it happens.
              I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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              • #8
                It's just what they do. No-one can explain it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FBomb View Post
                  Well....when you figure it out, let TC know.

                  We go through it every November and TC admitted last year that he doesn't know why it happens.
                  well I don't know about anyone else but that **** has worn me out...its been going on for years and with different groups of players....must be some sort of virus

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                  • #10
                    Maybe their luck ran out. They very well could be 4-6 right now. So maybe they aren't that good. Almost every single player on this team has played to a lesser level Han they did last year. Go through the players and tell me who is playing as good as they did last year. Maybe the guy so many bash, Blackburn. Add JPP and Joseph to that short list. Maybe Beatty too.

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                    • #11
                      We are struggling because our solid core of players are struggling. Eli, Webster, Osi, and Tuck....are all struggling and we are not getting any help from these younger guys. Bradshaw has never evolved into the back everyone expected...Hes a turnover machine just like his QB. Hakeem Nicks is forced to play hurt because Barden, Hixon, and Bennett cannot handle the load. Bennett has to be the worst red zone option is the league and I MISS BALLARD, but since everyone thought he was unathletic he was expendable. Remember Witten was never athletic and made Bennett a bench warmer. Defensively we are having the same miscues, Our DT rotation is terrible...thank you Reese that Shaun Rogers signing was utter garbage. And this offense is not helping this defense at all. Offensive line is garbage and has been for several years now...Baas was suppose to be a huge pick up but turns out to be another free agent bust from Reese. Diehl is struggling and so has Boothe and Snee. Snee is not longer a Pro Bowl guard,and now we are thinking Sean Locklear is a savior...after many teams cut this bum without even thinking twice.
                      " In Reese to Sign a Bust"

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                      • #12
                        Its just a Coughlin thing...

                        However, the good news is...our chances of going on yet another epic SB run will likely go up now..especially when the media completely falls off our bandwagon and we start to get the underdog treatment we love so much.
                        #80

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                        • #13
                          Might as well rest starters in November, I don't see the point of playing them lol.

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                          • #14
                            i have a theory that the players try to do the least amount possible to win the game that way they still have fresh legs, compounded with the fact we r leading the division with a lead, compounded with them looking forward to the bye week a week early. thats my my theory.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by wrek537emc View Post
                              i have a theory that the players try to do the least amount possible to win the game that way they still have fresh legs, compounded with the fact we r leading the division with a lead, compounded with them looking forward to the bye week a week early. thats my my theory.
                              I've often thought as much. We do squat until our backs are against the wall. and then we come out and kick everybody's ***.

                              Until then they kinda coast through. You could tell this was the case in the Dallas game. They quit after the second quarter.

                              I also have this theory that TC is saving Wilson so that we can unleash the beast when we make our playoff run. Zero tape on him and battered down defenses to play as well. Prob wont happen though...

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