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  • #16
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    A sack a game is too much... that's like saying...

    'He only had 2 drops'

    depending on when those happen its crucial...

    For instance in the Pittsburgh game when it was 'Eli Time' (the 4th quarter down a score and driving)

    He got beat so bad that Eli couldn't even hit the 5th step of his drop before being sacked.
    Then we never saw the ball again.

    It isn't so much that, he's only giving up 1 sack or only allowing 2-3 pressures...

    It's the fact that when other teams need it, they overload his side and there seems to be almost instant pressure... It isn't just that he gets beat, it is that he gets beat BADLY. A lot of times he doesn't even slow the guy down. He's making mental errors.. for instance one play against Pitt Eli checked Pressure to the weakside and slid Bennet over. Which was the right call... Diehl double-teamed the DT and let the end in untouched and Eli had to rifle a ball at a receivers feet. That type of play is ridiculous for a tackle playing longer than 3-4 seasons not to notice that his outside help was motioned and he's sealing the edge.

    Locklear moves better than Diehl and is stronger than Diehl... Diehl used to have a chest and arms... if you look at him he looks saggy with man titties... he obviously hasn't kept himself in the kind of shape he needs to be in to play tackle... lefr or right... hell not even guard or center. He was never a stud, he's a lunchpail guy that is on the decline... He isn't Jonathon Ogden or Orlando Pace who has bad knees but is otherwise doing ok...

    Not to mention we aren't taking into account that Eli is one of the BEST at getting the ball out and not taking a sack... Numerous times he's about to get rocked and takes a shot throwing...

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
      You don't find it strange that before he started Eli was not sacked as much as he has been in the last two games. I think you are no Irving him way to much credit. He may not be the sole reason they lost but his play has not been great either.
      Fact remains the pressure came repeatedly from left. I'm only keeping it real.
      Torque it till it breaks, then back off a 1/4 turn.

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      • #18
        I saw him getting pushed back into the QB. No he didn't give up a sack hat play but it forced the throw. I still think you are going him way to much credit.

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        • #19
          So he had his first good game since 2010? Let's hope he can build on that.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by NYGBandit View Post
            A sack a game is too much... that's like saying...

            'He only had 2 drops'

            depending on when those happen its crucial...

            For instance in the Pittsburgh game when it was 'Eli Time' (the 4th quarter down a score and driving)

            He got beat so bad that Eli couldn't even hit the 5th step of his drop before being sacked.
            Then we never saw the ball again.

            It isn't so much that, he's only giving up 1 sack or only allowing 2-3 pressures...

            It's the fact that when other teams need it, they overload his side and there seems to be almost instant pressure... It isn't just that he gets beat, it is that he gets beat BADLY. A lot of times he doesn't even slow the guy down. He's making mental errors.. for instance one play against Pitt Eli checked Pressure to the weakside and slid Bennet over. Which was the right call... Diehl double-teamed the DT and let the end in untouched and Eli had to rifle a ball at a receivers feet. That type of play is ridiculous for a tackle playing longer than 3-4 seasons not to notice that his outside help was motioned and he's sealing the edge.

            Locklear moves better than Diehl and is stronger than Diehl... Diehl used to have a chest and arms... if you look at him he looks saggy with man titties... he obviously hasn't kept himself in the kind of shape he needs to be in to play tackle... lefr or right... hell not even guard or center. He was never a stud, he's a lunchpail guy that is on the decline... He isn't Jonathon Ogden or Orlando Pace who has bad knees but is otherwise doing ok...

            Not to mention we aren't taking into account that Eli is one of the BEST at getting the ball out and not taking a sack... Numerous times he's about to get rocked and takes a shot throwing...
            damn you need to post more.

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            • #21
              Deihl plays more bad games than good anymore.. End of story, its that simple.
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              • #22
                Besides to me it looked like eli looked more comfortable in the pocket before deihl came back into the line up... but to be fair that may just be me being biased.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ALLnygIN View Post
                  Besides to me it looked like eli looked more comfortable in the pocket before deihl came back into the line up... but to be fair that may just be me being biased.
                  I agree that Eli's confidence has clearly taken a hit. He is worried about Diehl on every play. And for the record, Diehl gave up 1 sack and 3 pressures. Granted Boothe had a worse game, but 1 sack and 3 pressures is not good.

                  And in 3 1/2 games, Diehl has given up 5 sacks plus 11 pressures. THAT IS AWFUL and I wouldn't be surprised if Eli is the next QB to be concussed.
                  Last edited by moosedrool; 11-13-2012, 02:23 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                    Cool. DD still sucks.
                    LOL Rudy.

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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by Rusty192 View Post
                      damn you need to post more.
                      I use to years ago... I'll try again. Just demoralizing when half the time I post the thread doesn't even get a response and only a few views.

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                      • #26
                        It just feels the pocket collapses quicker with diehl in and the whole line seems to regress as a collective unit.


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                        • #27
                          I have also rewatched every play and I absolutely do not agree.

                          I want you to focus in on the backs. After about midway into the 2nd quarter, our offensive blocking completely changed.

                          Typically, Bradshaw or whoever is in at back, will block the 1st guy through. In other words, he is supposed to block the guy who poses the biggest immediate threat to Eli. On Sunday, midway throught the 2nd quarter our backs stopped doing that completely and were assigned to help DD on every play. Watch for yourselves. The backs were always lined up to Eli's right and always helped DD, no matter what. They were obviously told to do so. Unfortunatly this allowed other guys through. If we have to compensate for a guy, doesnt that indicate he is a problem?

                          So while DD's guy may not have been in on the play on every play, he was owning DD enough that he required help on every play. That is just not good. I do not agree at all with PFF, or anyone who says that DD did not have a horrendous day.
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                          • #28
                            The fact remains that if you watch he had a ton of help over there, Bennett lined up a lot and the backs chipped to his side, I think you might want to watch that again.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
                              I have also rewatched every play and I absolutely do not agree.I want you to focus in on the backs. After about midway into the 2nd quarter, our offensive blocking completely changed. Typically, Bradshaw or whoever is in at back, will block the 1st guy through. In other words, he is supposed to block the guy who poses the biggest immediate threat to Eli. On Sunday, midway throught the 2nd quarter our backs stopped doing that completely and were assigned to help DD on every play. Watch for yourselves. The backs were always lined up to Eli's right and always helped DD, no matter what. They were obviously told to do so. Unfortunatly this allowed other guys through. If we have to compensate for a guy, doesnt that indicate he is a problem? So while DD's guy may not have been in on the play on every play, he was owning DD enough that he required help on every play. That is just not good. I do not agree at all with PFF, or anyone who says that DD did not have a horrendous day.
                              Wow. I don't have the game recorded to watch but it that's true that is horrible.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by moosedrool View Post
                                I agree that Eli's confidence has clearly taken a hit. He is worried about Diehl on every play. And for the record, Diehl gave up 1 sack and 3 pressures. Granted Boothe had a worse game, but 1 sack and 3 pressures is not good.

                                And in 3 1/2 games, Diehl has given up 5 sacks plus 11 pressures. THAT IS AWFUL and I wouldn't be surprised if Eli is the next QB to be concussed.
                                OP is ignoring the fact that Diehl was bad in 2010, was terrible last season, and is worse then Locklear in every way. This is just a cumulative response. I see no reason that Locklear isnt on the field

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