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  • #61
    Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    OP is ignoring the fact that Diehl was bad in 2010, was terrible last season, and is worse then Locklear in every way. This is just a cumulative response. I see no reason that Locklear isnt on the field
    I don't disagree with any of that, and I didn't go in to re-watch the game to prove this point. It's just something I started to take notice of and then just went through the whole game until we were down 31-6.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Dwinsballgames View Post
      All the OP said was that he didn't play that bad on Sunday. I don't think he's trying to vote him in to Canton.
      Exactly. From reading this board you would have thought the guy had a miserable game. That simply was not true.

      And I'm not defending him for any other games either.

      He wasn't a good RT before he was replaced by KMac and I voice my concern of that during the pre-season.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by PBTimmons View Post
        Let me get this straight. David Diehl has played two straight games and allowed a sack in both...BUT we're not supposed to rip him to shreds. OKAY!

        He's the worst O-lineman in football.

        I'd take ****ing Guy Whimper over David Diehl.

        Edit: I am responding to the OP, for the record.
        No offense but it's guys like you which prompted me to take notice of Diehl's game and make this post.

        Eli threw two interceptions off of Boothe getting beat, and was sacked another time from Boothe's man and you're freaked out by Diehl's 2 sacks?

        That's strange man.

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        • #64
          Ive been trying to say this for a while but Diehl has some bad juju with him right now. Its affecting everyone. I don't know what happened, but my guess is an evil curse.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Roosevelt View Post
            I just watched 56 minutes of the last game isolated on #66 and I have to say that all you guys blaming him need to slow down on the Budweiser's and pay the-**** attention during the games.

            Diehl got beat once during the game and on another play his man blew past him wide and circled in in to get Eli. So in total you have just two plays to rag on Diehl. Two ****ing plays after that debacle is nothing.

            The truth is, every pressure when Eli threw his picks or fumbled came from the left. More specifically it came from Kevin Boothe's man.

            So all you divas ragging on Diehl owe him a big apology cause you obviously don't know jack.

            Other than that, have a nice night.
            DD is done. Defend him all you want. He has been terrible for 2 seasons.
            Lets go, Giants!

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            • #66
              Originally posted by nycisgreat View Post
              DD is done. Defend him all you want. He has been terrible for 2 seasons.
              OK take it easy. He was our LT during our SB run. Once he moved there our running game improved and our protection improved as well.
              I know the "stats" show something else but he played well at LT when called upon last season.
              This year is a new season and he has struggled.
              But as usual, he's not as bad as all the hysterics here would suggest.
              Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                OK take it easy. He was our LT during our SB run. Once he moved there our running game improved and our protection improved as well.
                I know the "stats" show something else but he played well at LT when called upon last season.
                This year is a new season and he has struggled.
                But as usual, he's not as bad as all the hysterics here would suggest.
                DD was terrible last season, and he is terrible this season. He constantly gets pushed back on the line of srimage or let guys simply run right around him (I am not saying that it happens on purpose) . Go and look at the Steelers game. DD doesn't do a good job of create holes on his side. I am tired of looking at Bradshaw running directly into has back when trying to find a hole. I don't remember the last time I saw him create a hole so wide open that it was noticeable. Locklear snaps to sack ration is far greater than DD. I appreciate all the success he had with the Giants, but at some point in life the body isn't able keep up with the mind. Physically DD isn't performing well. His intentions are good, but his play is bad.

                New York Giants Total yds Yds/Attempt
                2012 (Rk#13) 1,114 4.4
                2011 (Rk#32) 1,427 3.5
                2010 (Rl#6) 2,200 4.6
                2009 (Rk#17) 1,837 4.1
                2008 (Rk#1) 2,518 5.0
                2007 (Rk#4) 2,148 4.6
                Lets go, Giants!

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by nycisgreat View Post
                  DD was terrible last season, and he is terrible this season. He constantly gets pushed back on the line of srimage or let guys simply run right around him (I am not saying that it happens on purpose) . Go and look at the Steelers game. DD doesn't do a good job of create holes on his side. I am tired of looking at Bradshaw running directly into has back when trying to find a hole. I don't remember the last time I saw him create a hole so wide open that it was noticeable. Locklear snaps to sack ration is far greater than DD. I appreciate all the success he had with the Giants, but at some point in life the body isn't able keep up with the mind. Physically DD isn't performing well. His intentions are good, but his play is bad.

                  New York Giants Total yds Yds/Attempt
                  2012 (Rk#13) 1,114 4.4
                  2011 (Rk#32) 1,427 3.5
                  2010 (Rl#6) 2,200 4.6
                  2009 (Rk#17) 1,837 4.1
                  2008 (Rk#1) 2,518 5.0
                  2007 (Rk#4) 2,148 4.6
                  As I said, he's struggled this season. RT is definitely not his position. But he's not as bad as everyone is saying. As for last season, his performance was definitely underrated. The entire O line performed better with DD at LT. The entire line. And as you know, no unit needs to work together more than the O line.
                  Thats all I'm saying. This demonization of DD is over the top.
                  Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                  • #69
                    As previously stated, this thread wasn't meant to say he is playing great ball, just that he didn't play as poorly last week as so many on here would lead one to believe.

                    Now with that said, the guy just came back from a sprained MCL so let's keep things in perspective. He also has been a trooper for us and has won 2 SB's so maybe he deserves a little respect as some others have stated.

                    Again, Boothe was responsible for the pressure on both picks and one sack and no one but me has talked about that.

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                    • #70
                      Perspective is a commodity in short supply around these parts at the best of times and even more so after a 2-game slide.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
                        I have also rewatched every play and I absolutely do not agree.

                        I want you to focus in on the backs. After about midway into the 2nd quarter, our offensive blocking completely changed.

                        Typically, Bradshaw or whoever is in at back, will block the 1st guy through. In other words, he is supposed to block the guy who poses the biggest immediate threat to Eli. On Sunday, midway throught the 2nd quarter our backs stopped doing that completely and were assigned to help DD on every play. Watch for yourselves. The backs were always lined up to Eli's right and always helped DD, no matter what. They were obviously told to do so. Unfortunatly this allowed other guys through. If we have to compensate for a guy, doesnt that indicate he is a problem?

                        So while DD's guy may not have been in on the play on every play, he was owning DD enough that he required help on every play. That is just not good. I do not agree at all with PFF, or anyone who says that DD did not have a horrendous day.
                        OMG this... It must be DD's run blocking that saved his grade. We sure didn't have a problem running the ball. Bradshaw had 5.7 YPC on the game, Brown had 6.0 before his 29 yarder, 9.7 with it. The only problem with our running game is that we didn't run it more on the Bengals.

                        But to say that he's "better" because he has Bradshaw and Bennett chipping for him all day long is just plain BS.

                        DD had been a great Giant for many years, but like i've been saying for a while now, he belongs in our Ring of Honor, not our Offensive Line...

                        I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                          As I said, he's struggled this season. RT is definitely not his position. But he's not as bad as everyone is saying. As for last season, his performance was definitely underrated. The entire O line performed better with DD at LT. The entire line. And as you know, no unit needs to work together more than the O line.
                          Thats all I'm saying. This demonization of DD is over the top.
                          Lol, I don't think DD is getting scrutinized enough. I don't get kicks out of bashing the guy, but if he was anyone else. He would be on the bench. He has started for us for 9 seasons. I understand TC trust the guy, but DD play has been no where as good as years past. We all agree oline has to work as a unit. The key is does he hold up his end of the bargain for the oline's cohesion? I don't think he does. He under performing big time when you look at the line as a whole. Who on the line can you saying he performing on the same level as DD?
                          Lets go, Giants!

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                          • #73
                            I don't give a rats butt about David Diehl! I'd like to know what Locklear did to get benched! He played excellent all season! I generally agree with the coaching staff, but this reminds me of a few seasons ago when the line was clicking and then when O'Hara supposedly got healthy they put him back at center and the line play fell off a cliff!

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by nycisgreat View Post
                              Lol, I don't think DD is getting scrutinized enough. I don't get kicks out of bashing the guy, but if he was anyone else. He would be on the bench. He has started for us for 9 seasons. I understand TC trust the guy, but DD play has been no where as good as years past. We all agree oline has to work as a unit. The key is does he hold up his end of the bargain for the oline's cohesion? I don't think he does. He under performing big time when you look at the line as a whole. Who on the line can you saying he performing on the same level as DD?
                              No scrutinized enough?
                              If you follow this MB you'd think he had 666 burned in his head.
                              As a matter of fact, now that I think of it, that shadowy figure behind the grassy knoll looks a lot like David Diehl.
                              Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                                No scrutinized enough?
                                If you follow this MB you'd think he had 666 burned in his head.
                                As a matter of fact, now that I think of it, that shadowy figure behind the grassy knoll looks a lot like David Diehl.
                                Is it a coincidence that the only 3 games we had protection issues (multi sacks and heavy pressure) happened to be the 3 games Diehl started at RT? If Locklear was a better fit to protect Eli at LT than Diehl when Beatty was injured (and the man is a natural RT), what is the logic that Diehl would be a better RT than Locklear?

                                It's not even about how many sacks he has given up. You can see Eli doesn't feel comfortable back there. Pressure is constantly coming from that side. If it's not Diehl it's Snee getting owned!

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