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  • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
    That was Wade Phillips. We never faced Parcells in the playoffs.

    And Tom coddles Eli. He knows Eli is a tad "delicate".
    Thats right. My mistake.
    You have no idea Toms relationship with Eli is like. If Eli was "delicate" the Giants would never sniff the playoffs with him at qb.

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    • Originally posted by dillyyo1972 View Post
      Erratic is Eli's greatest flaw and it seems to have influenced the team itself over his tenure. That is my biggest gripe with him, but for all of that, he's brought us two SBs and mostly on his shoulders. Phil doesn't win his SB without that quality of defense and he surely wouldn't win 25 without that D and BIll B. running that atypical 2 man down scheme.
      Our defense held the highest scoring offense in NFL history to 14 points in SB 42. They knocked Brady on his *** 19 times. That SB had one of the greatest defensive performances in SB history. No offensive player carried that team.
      Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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      • Originally posted by dezzzR View Post
        Thats right. My mistake.
        You have no idea Toms relationship with Eli is like. If Eli was "delicate" the Giants would never sniff the playoffs with him at qb.
        I'm sorry...."sensitive" ....is that better?
        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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        • everyone knows Tom doesnt yell at Eli and Tom never ever calls Eli out and says he has to play better even after horrible games. Now that doesnt mean Eli isnt good but he does get treated differently.

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          • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
            I'm sorry...."sensitive" ....is that better?
            What has Eli done to earn the sensitive tag?? It's not like he didn't get the crap beat outta of him in the NFCCG.
            Last edited by Eliscruzzz; 11-13-2012, 05:13 PM.
            sigpicShould the Giants fire Gilbride....

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONL7L...yer_detailpage

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            • Originally posted by Eliscruzzz View Post
              What has Eli done to earn the sensitive tag?? It's not like he didn't get the crap beat outta of him in the NFCG.
              This

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              • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                I'm sorry...."sensitive" ....is that better?
                No because I dont think he is sensitive. Why do you think that? You cant play in New York if youre delicate, sensitive, thin skinned.

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                • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                  Our defense held the highest scoring offense in NFL history to 14 points in SB 42. They knocked Brady on his *** 19 times. That SB had one of the greatest defensive performances in SB history. No offensive player carried that team.
                  Unfortunately, you don't just get to skip all season and playoff games just to get to the SB. Point I made was Eli carried that team more often then not through that season and runs they went on in the playoff. That's what I meant by mostly on the QB's shoulders.

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                  • Originally posted by dezzzR View Post
                    No because I dont think he is sensitive. Why do you think that? You cant play in New York if youre delicate, sensitive, thin skinned.
                    I'm ****ing with you Desilu.
                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                    • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                      I'm ****ing with you Desilu.
                      Simms cultists!!!

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                      • Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                        everyone knows Tom doesnt yell at Eli and Tom never ever calls Eli out and says he has to play better even after horrible games. Now that doesnt mean Eli isnt good but he does get treated differently.
                        Tom is not like Bill in that he doesn't call people out in public, but I think he is just as tough as Bill was. I've seen him chastise Eli almost as much as anyone else.

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                        • Originally posted by dillyyo1972 View Post
                          Unfortunately, you don't just get to skip all season and playoff games just to get to the SB. Point I made was Eli carried that team more often then not through that season and runs they went on in the playoff. That's what I meant by mostly on the QB's shoulders.
                          In 2007 Eli wasn't stellar by any means during the regular season.
                          http://boards.giants.com/showthread....est-game/page6
                          http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2554_A_brief,_fact-filled_history_of_the_NFL_passing_game.html
                          http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732732/is-new-york-giants-qb-eli-manning-worthy-hall-fame-espn-magazine

                          Entire Team Let Eli down today - NYG4l

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                          • Originally posted by Eliscruzzz View Post
                            What has Eli done to earn the sensitive tag?? It's not like he didn't get the crap beat outta of him in the NFCCG.
                            My guess is that Eli would get along fine with Parcells.

                            When it comes to personality, work ethic, intelligence, etc., Parcells would be thrilled to have Manning.

                            Simms couldn't even stay on the field his first few seasons.

                            And when 1/2 of the team wanted to rebel against "old" Coughlin, Eli was unwavering in his support.....so it's not like he's not used to some fire and brimstone.
                            "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

                            "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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                            • Originally posted by ny06
                              Welcome to pro sports, many players get coddled. Eli isn't the only one.
                              Doesn't bother me at all that he's coddled. Whatever makes him play better. My point is that Phil was thrown to the wolves. Then when he tore up his knee, they discarded him. He had to claw his way back.
                              Our coaches have been very careful with Eli.
                              Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                              • Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
                                In 2007 Eli wasn't stellar by any means during the regular season.
                                The whole team wasn't, but they all meshed during the run and during that time Eli showed that he could make any throw, in any condition with any game on the line.

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