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  • Originally posted by Roosevelt View Post
    Hoss was Phil's back-up and was a solid QB who went on to become a starting quarterback as most of us know. But we also know that Hoss was not as good a QB as Phil. So what are really talking?

    We are talking about the decision of the head coach that picked Hoss ahead of Phil. So now bigjeep, please tell everyone who was our head coach at that time and what he's doing now?

    Now when you listen to prominent ex-players and coaches talk about Phil they all talk highly of him and many believe he was underrated. Of course Wellington Mara thought so much of Phil that the Giants retired his jersey. Not too bad for a guy you claim was carried by his team.

    I also must question why you are calling out only our defense when our entire team has been slumping? Have you actually watched Eli play the last few games? Do you like what you see from our QB?
    The very fact that a backup took over the reigns and won playoffs and SuperBowl is iondicative of how good the team around Phil Simms was. Phil didnít have to do anything extraordinary to win.

    Phil Simms won because of the team and system around him. Eli Manning wins in spite of the system and team around him. Huge difference.

    Now, do you think we would even win a game if Eliís backup came in?

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    • LOLOLOL I can't believe some of you old timers actually consider Eli a chuck and duck QB.

      And Roosevelt, did you just say Eli tries to avoid contact and then bring up the NFCCG when he got drilled constantly? A bit contradictory there. Of course a QB should try to avoid contact my friend. I want my QB to be healthy and have the 3rd longest consecutive games played streak while you can go with the guy who gets his ribs broken because he is "tough".

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      • C'mon guys......we need 50 pages!

        50 pages or bust!!!!
        "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

        "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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        • Originally posted by joemorrisforprez View Post
          C'mon guys......we need 50 pages!

          50 pages or bust!!!!
          Gotta make goal!!!
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          • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
            Only because Ray Handley was an idiot.
            Calling Ray Handley an idiot is being way too nice. The snowball game against the chargers remains one of my worst days as a giants fan.
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            • Eli....def takes hits. He may not seem as stout in the pocket as others but he def takes hits while he throws.
              "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
              You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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              • Originally posted by Roosevelt View Post
                I'm not necessarily knocking Eli for trying to avoid getting hit because the guy hasn't missed a game. But there is a difference in the way these two play/ed the game in that regard. Phil would hang in there and get killed, while Eli tries his damnedest not to get touched.

                And I agree about the NFCCG. That was one helluva performance from Eli. He got the crap knocked out of him and just kept at it.
                You seem hell bent on stating that Simms was a braver and tougher QB than Eli. Agree to disagree lol.

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                • Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                  Eli....def takes hits. He may not seem as stout in the pocket as others but he def takes hits while he throws.
                  I'd say him and Romo take the most vicious hits I have seen in the league on a regular basis.

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                  • Originally posted by BuffyBlueII View Post
                    The claims that Eli chucks and ducks is ridiculous. The guy stands tall in the pocket and takes hits that knock other QBs out of the game.
                    Sounds like a good name for Eli's first restaurant! "Eli's chuck and duck"
                    Players come and go on the Free Agency Merry-Go-Round, but the N.Y. Giants will always be here!

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                    • Originally posted by bigjeep View Post
                      Sounds like a good name for Eli's first restaurant!
                      Eli's first restaurant is going to be a steak joint. "OMAHA! OMAHA! Steaks"
                      Mood: WOOF!

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                      • Originally posted by sharick88 View Post
                        Calling Ray Handley an idiot is being way too nice. The snowball game against the chargers remains one of my worst days as a giants fan.
                        And that poor guy that the fans threw snowballs at was killed in a plane crash to to long after that.
                        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                        • Originally posted by Roosevelt View Post
                          Hoss was Phil's back-up and was a solid QB who went on to become a starting quarterback as most of us know. But we also know that Hoss was not as good a QB as Phil. So what are really talking?

                          We are talking about the decision of the head coach that picked Hoss ahead of Phil. So now bigjeep, please tell everyone who was our head coach at that time and what he's doing now?

                          Now when you listen to prominent ex-players and coaches talk about Phil they all talk highly of him and many believe he was underrated. Of course Wellington Mara thought so much of Phil that the Giants retired his jersey. Not too bad for a guy you claim was carried by his team.

                          I also must question why you are calling out only our defense when our entire team has been slumping? Have you actually watched Eli play the last few games? Do you like what you see from our QB?
                          " So now bigjeep, please tell everyone who was our head coach at that time and what he's doing now?"

                          Vince Lombardi?
                          Players come and go on the Free Agency Merry-Go-Round, but the N.Y. Giants will always be here!

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                          • Just to update you guys, Phil Simms also said that Warren Moon and Dan Marino weren't elite quarterbacks either.
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                            • Originally posted by sharick88 View Post
                              Just to update you guys, Phil Simms also said that Warren Moon and Dan Marino weren't elite quarterbacks either.
                              so he is wrong two more times then as well...lol
                              "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                              You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                              • Originally posted by sharick88 View Post
                                Just to update you guys, Phil Simms also said that Warren Moon and Dan Marino weren't elite quarterbacks either.
                                I also heard he said vanilla was better than chocolate. What an ***

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