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  • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
    I want to see the "good Eli" from here on this season. He's unfortunately gone back to his inconsistent ways this season. Lets hope "bad Eli" doesn't show himself any more this year.
    I honestly don't know if I've ever seen an NFL QB with such a high beta.
    Jake Plummer for a couple years.
    http://boards.giants.com/showthread....est-game/page6
    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2554_A_brief,_fact-filled_history_of_the_NFL_passing_game.html
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732732/is-new-york-giants-qb-eli-manning-worthy-hall-fame-espn-magazine

    Entire Team Let Eli down today - NYG4l

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    • Originally posted by nygfanmaybe View Post
      I really don't care who considers who the best or who in fact is the best. I enjoy the today and the yesterday.
      I do and when Eli wins his 3rd SB this year I want to make sure everyone agrees that he's not only the best Giants QB ever, but arguably the GOAT.

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      • Give Eli credit in the post game interviews. I'm sure he is well aware of what Simms said, and when asked about how it felt to hold the all time TD record, he made mention of great QBs including Simms, saying it was an honor to be mentioned in the same sentence with those guys.

        Simms can take his shots, but Eli will remain all class.

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        • Originally posted by EliDaMANning View Post
          He missed a wide open pass to Hynoski, the world must be ending soon!!!!

          OMG!! Wait, in the same game, the so called best QB in the game threw a pass right at Webster. He also held onto the ball forever and took unecessary sacks. When he finally threw the ball away it was to end the half instead of taking a shot to the end zone.

          LOL. Rodgers got schooled. Oh by the way, Simms is old news. He will forever be in the rear view mirror of Eli in Giants history.
          "Missed an open Hynoski"? He threw it to Hackensack.

          Anyway no biggie. He made a nice throw to Randle for a TD.
          Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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          • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
            "Missed an open Hynoski"? He threw it to Hackensack.

            Anyway no biggie. He made a nice throw to Randle for a TD.
            That throw was inexcusable.

            Just like the Rodgers throw to Webster as well as countless other throws at his receivers feet.


            Eli took Rodgers to the woodshed. RG3 and Brees will soon join him.

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            • Originally posted by VBGiantsFan View Post
              Give Eli credit in the post game interviews. I'm sure he is well aware of what Simms said, and when asked about how it felt to hold the all time TD record, he made mention of great QBs including Simms, saying it was an honor to be mentioned in the same sentence with those guys.

              Simms can take his shots, but Eli will remain all class.
              Phil didn't take any shots at all. He expressed his opinion.
              Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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              • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                Phil didn't take any shots at all. He expressed his opinion.
                I'm with you, everybody is saying how much Simms "Disrespected Eli and the Giants" but if you saw the interview, and not just a reporters version of what he said, then you would realize that Simms was trapped into saying that.
                They said Brady and the Patriots couldn't be beat, Eli did it twice, how's that for Elite?

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                • Originally posted by NYGFaninILL View Post
                  I'm with you, everybody is saying how much Simms "Disrespected Eli and the Giants" but if you saw the interview, and not just a reporters version of what he said, then you would realize that Simms was trapped into saying that.
                  Yes but to some he is a blasphemist and will now ride the B line to hell.
                  Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                  • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                    Phil didn't take any shots at all. He expressed his opinion.
                    Sure, all he did was express his opinion. He is also a football analyst and commentator and has to expand his career. There are plenty of reasons he why he said what he said.

                    However, while Simms has moved on, most of us are still Giants fans and expect loyalty to our team. Maybe it's an unreasonable expectation. Honestly, the only guy consistenly pro-Giants has been Michael Strahan, hence why he may be the single most beloved Giant.

                    Whether it was a shot at Eli or not, Simms comment rubbed the fans the wrong way, and rightfully so. The fact is, he wasn't belittling the level of play and talent of a journeyman football player, he was talking about a 2x superbowl champion fresh of a champtionship LAST year, Pro-Bowler, and MVP (superbowl).

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                    • Originally posted by VBGiantsFan View Post
                      Sure, all he did was express his opinion. He is also a football analyst and commentator and has to expand his career. There are plenty of reasons he why he said what he said.

                      However, while Simms has moved on, most of us are still Giants fans and expect loyalty to our team. Maybe it's an unreasonable expectation. Honestly, the only guy consistenly pro-Giants has been Michael Strahan, hence why he may be the single most beloved Giant.

                      Whether it was a shot at Eli or not, Simms comment rubbed the fans the wrong way, and rightfully so. The fact is, he wasn't belittling the level of play and talent of a journeyman football player, he was talking about a 2x superbowl champion fresh of a champtionship LAST year, Pro-Bowler, and MVP (superbowl).
                      And if you saw, or even read the article, you would understand that he gave Eli his credit for all he's done. Phil Simms is one of the only commentators to remain loyal to the Giants.

                      And if he was to say that Eli is the best QB in the league right now, he'd lose credibility.
                      They said Brady and the Patriots couldn't be beat, Eli did it twice, how's that for Elite?

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                      • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                        Phil didn't take any shots at all. He expressed his opinion.
                        That's like saying Tiki didn't take any shots at all. He expressed his opinion.


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                        • Originally posted by VBGiantsFan View Post
                          Sure, all he did was express his opinion. He is also a football analyst and commentator and has to expand his career. There are plenty of reasons he why he said what he said.

                          However, while Simms has moved on, most of us are still Giants fans and expect loyalty to our team. Maybe it's an unreasonable expectation. Honestly, the only guy consistenly pro-Giants has been Michael Strahan, hence why he may be the single most beloved Giant.

                          Whether it was a shot at Eli or not, Simms comment rubbed the fans the wrong way, and rightfully so. The fact is, he wasn't belittling the level of play and talent of a journeyman football player, he was talking about a 2x superbowl champion fresh of a champtionship LAST year, Pro-Bowler, and MVP (superbowl).
                          How dare he!
                          The last thing we need in the world is a little honesty.

                          No sir....we must march in lock step (or should I say "goosestep") with the masses of the obedient . We must reduce those who challenge his greatness to the rubble of history, and send them eastward in railcars, never to be heard from again.


                          Or we could........ FIGHT THE POWER!!!!!!!
                          Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                          • Originally posted by Gimaniac View Post
                            That's like saying Tiki didn't take any shots at all. He expressed his opinion.


                            Woah, What Simms did and what Tiki did were on two different levels. Tiki badmouthed everything about the Giants from Eli to TC to further his young commentating career. Simms was asked what he thought the definition of Elite was and then was trapped into saying what he did by the interviewer. In fact, he gave Eli all the credit in the world in that interview too, but like most people, you only focus on the part that you can argue with, so get your facts straight!!!!
                            They said Brady and the Patriots couldn't be beat, Eli did it twice, how's that for Elite?

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                            • Originally posted by Gimaniac View Post
                              That's like saying Tiki didn't take any shots at all. He expressed his opinion.


                              dont even mention Tiki and Simms in that regard in the same breath....
                              way off base there.....
                              "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                              You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                              • Originally posted by NYGFaninILL View Post
                                Woah, What Simms did and what Tiki did were on two different levels. Tiki badmouthed everything about the Giants from Eli to TC to further his young commentating career. Simms was asked what he thought the definition of Elite was and then was trapped into saying what he did by the interviewer. In fact, he gave Eli all the credit in the world in that interview too, but like most people, you only focus on the part that you can argue with, so get your facts straight!!!!
                                Not only that but Tiki violated locker room confidences with his comments. His commenst were a pathetic attempt to mock Eli. And he clearly did it out of resentment.
                                Thats a far cry from objective analysis about what is and what isn't an "elite" QB.
                                Some of these guys crack me up.
                                Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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