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  • Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
    /comfort
    I never really knew what "flogging" was.

    Is it something one can do in the privacy of his own home?
    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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    • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
      My self loathing is not relevant to this discussion.

      Comparing stats from different eras is the act of a desperate, pathetic mind.
      Some would say this about comparing QBs from this different eras.

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      • Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
        And yet our guy has beaten one head to head on the biggest stage ... TWICE! ... and has more rings than the other.I win!
        Qbs don't play head to head.

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        • Originally posted by Imgrate View Post
          Ok. Matt Ryan, Joe flacco, cam Newton, Andrew luck, rg3 are all on pace for better numbers than Eli. Oh and aaron Rodgers is leaps and bounds ahead of Eli
          The moon is made of cheese.

          Hey look I can do it too!
          I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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          • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
            I never really knew what "flogging" was.

            Is it something one can do in the privacy of his own home?
            George Michael and Peewee Herman might dis ... nahhh too easy.
            I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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            • Originally posted by Imgrate View Post
              Qbs don't play head to head.
              If you want to compare defenses that the aforementioned have played against in the post season the disparity is even greater.

              Eli is The MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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              • Originally posted by Dline83 View Post
                Just for arguments sake, here are the stat lines for the first 8 seasons of Eli vs. Montanna. Keep in mind Eli stated 8 games his rookie year to Montana's 1.

                Eli Manning during his first 8 seasons:

                185 TD, 129 INT, 57.6 completion percentage, 27,577 yards, playng in 121 games during that time period with 69 wins and 51 losses, 3 division titles, 2 Super Bowl wins

                Montana during his first 8 seasons:

                141 TD, 76 INT, 62.4 completion percentage, 17,184 yards, playing in 87 games during that time period with 57 wins and 30 losses, 4 division titles, 2 Super Bowl wins

                I dont really see why you say that taking about all time greatness is twisted, these are your own words:

                Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                I'm an army of 1.
                My mission......To keep the glorious memory of Phil Simms fresh in the minds of my fellow MB posters....and *to make sure that we all be realistic about Eli.......... *That he's a fine player but not one of the greats of this era.
                I am not arguing that he is one of the great qb of all time, we would have to wait for his career to be over to fairly judge that, but I do firmly believe he is one of the greats of his time, which you stated you do not.
                Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                I never said I was sane.
                But my arguments are.
                In the end your opinion is your own and you are more than welcome to think/believe anything you wish, I just disagree with putting out statements with out supporting them. You can make lists of qb you think are better than Eli all you want and you might be right or wrong, but you never support your claims by using facts.

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                • It is ridiculous that folks are even stating that Dan Fouts, Roger Staubach, Troy Aikman and Joe Namath are better than Eli Manning.

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                  • Originally posted by BuffyBlueII View Post
                    It is ridiculous that folks are even stating that Dan Fouts, Roger Staubach, Troy Aikman and Joe Namath are better than Eli Manning.
                    I know, right?!

                    extremeeli.com here I come!
                    I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                    • Originally posted by BuffyBlueII View Post
                      It is ridiculous that folks are even stating that Dan Fouts, Roger Staubach, Troy Aikman and Joe Namath are better than Eli Manning.
                      Its these kinds of posts that give you Eli Cultists a bad name.

                      It's not a crime to delude yourself into believing that Eli Manning is some kind of all time great player. But when you say its silly to say that Roger Staubach (a top 5 all time QB) is better than Eli.....we have crossed the line into lunacy.
                      Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                      • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                        Its these kinds of posts that give you Eli Cultists a bad name.

                        It's not a crime to delude yourself into believing that Eli Manning is some kind of all time great player. But when you say its silly to say that Roger Staubach (a top 5 all time QB) is better than Eli.....we have crossed the line into lunacy.
                        Roger Staubach top 5? That is ridiculous.

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                        • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                          .....we have crossed the line into lunacy.
                          Ya think? I think the definition of lunacy would be similar to insanity...which would be doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. So...yes we are all guilty. We continuously try to point out how you are wrong, over and over, and you and a few of your buddies continuously try to point out how we are wrong. You be the judge.

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                          • Originally posted by nygfanmaybe View Post
                            Ya think? I think the definition of lunacy would be similar to insanity...which would be doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. So...yes we are all guilty. We continuously try to point out how you are wrong, over and over, and you and a few of your buddies continuously try to point out how we are wrong. You be the judge.
                            Yes but I'm right.
                            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                            • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                              Yes but I'm right.
                              I truly am smiling right now...

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                              • Originally posted by BuffyBlueII View Post
                                Roger Staubach top 5? That is ridiculous.
                                Well he was the best QB of his era.
                                Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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