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  • I'm changing my prediction.
    35 pages in one day, 2 days max.
    Mood: WOOF!

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    • Originally posted by Gimaniac View Post
      Yes, but it ended ugly between him and Gmen.
      Whose fault was that?
      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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      • Can someone please explain to me how a player can be elite one moment and a few bad games he's not?
        A few poor games should not change the fact that Eli is elite in this league. You don't put the numbers up and multiple championship mvp's by being average.

        Giants fan since the early 80s

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        • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
          Phil threw for 4000 yards before Bavaro was on the team. His top pass catcher had 48 catches that season.
          And no insult but Eli doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to have played for Parcells back then. Takes a unique guy to deal with Bill.
          Tony Romo dealt with Bill. LOL. Just giving you a hard time
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          • Should rename this thread the Eli cultists vs the Simms cultists.

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            • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
              Started that season 10-0.
              Yup, and was the backup the next year. He was pissed.

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              • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                Whose fault was that?
                Ray Handley's

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                • Originally posted by dillyyo1972 View Post
                  It works both ways. If Eli had that defense with the greatest defensive player of all time, that running/play action game, HOF coach in Bill P. and possibly the greatest coach of all time in Bill B., do you really think Eli wouldn't possibly equal or exceed what Phil did? Eli has shown he probably could have taken the hits QB's did then. Maybe Phil wouldn't have been so accurate in this receiver option route offense and maybe Eli would be more accurate in the receiver single route offense Phil played behind.
                  ill tell you eli wouldnt have gotten more than 15 starts with Parcells he would have benched him. Parcells was a tough cookie. You didnt get that long to prove yourself back then.

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                  • Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                    I'm changing my prediction.
                    35 pages in one day, 2 days max.
                    **** it. I see your 35 pages and raise it 15 for an even 50
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                    • Originally posted by ny06 View Post
                      Can someone please explain to me how a player can be elite one moment and a few bad games he's not?
                      A few poor games should not change the fact that Eli is elite in this league. You don't put the numbers up and multiple championship mvp's by being average.
                      +1. You either think he's elite or you don't. You can't become un-elite, that doesn't make any sense.

                      Your last sentence is debatable, but in terms of him being elite one week,and not being elite the next is stupid.
                      Mood: WOOF!

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                      • Originally posted by sharick88 View Post
                        **** it. I see your 35 pages and raise it 15 for an even 50
                        LOL
                        Mood: WOOF!

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                        • Im waiting for Kerry collins to weigh in on the subject.

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                          • Originally posted by dillyyo1972 View Post
                            It works both ways. If Eli had that defense with the greatest defensive player of all time, that running/play action game, HOF coach in Bill P. and possibly the greatest coach of all time in Bill B., do you really think Eli wouldn't possibly equal or exceed what Phil did? Eli has shown he probably could have taken the hits QB's did then. Maybe Phil wouldn't have been so accurate in this receiver option route offense and maybe Eli would be more accurate in the receiver single route offense Phil played behind.
                            Phil won a lot of games and had a great defense..no doubt.
                            But his passing stats were held way down by RE's system. He was an absolute pure passer. I saw an interview with Joe Montana just a few years ago and he went to a QB camp with Phil and he talked about how shocked he was to see how great Phil still threw the ball. that would have been past 50.

                            Phil could spin the ball like few QB's. And no one stood in the pocket and took hits to allow receivers to break open like Phil.
                            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                            • Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                              Im waiting for Kerry collins to weigh in on the subject.
                              I am also sure that Dave Brown and Danny Kanell both have a take as well.
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                              • Phil was a Qb that had many games start to finish solid. He didnt start off cold and get hot for the 4th qtr. imagine a QB that was steady all game long. imagine that. imagine a QB that could sustain drives during the first half and allow his Defense to get some rest.

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