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  • joemorrisforprez
    started a topic New equipment

    New equipment

    I wonder about NFL equipment.....we've got materials out there that can literrally stop a bullet, and yet we can't develop equipment that can protect against blowing out knees and concussions, etc.

    Maybe the best solution is a radically redesigned, mandatory equipment.

  • tcseacliff
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    this will be the in the future, less injuries!



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUxD...eature=related
    Last edited by tcseacliff; 11-17-2012, 12:25 AM. Reason: wrong link

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  • TextureDj
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    Here is the rub, while Roa is absolutely right, its the brain slapping the inside of the skull when the head suddenly stops that causes the damage (think of hitting your windsheilld in an accident), a soft helmet would certainly be effective.

    An inch of crumple zone would make a world of difference, it is comprable the a crumple zone in a vehicle since the head is travelling far more slowly. The problem is this:

    To be effective they would have to be replaced any time they have been impacted. Ok, replace them, replacing 22 helmets per play is impractical so this cushion would have to be external or some type of indicator would have to be used. People are up in arms about rules already, there would be even more rules about impact indicators and depleted helmets. There could be another flag needed. Such a big change just would be too difficult to implement, thigh pads are too much to reaqch agreement on..

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  • poppa smurph
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    Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
    Don't laugh. I remember Barry Beck (NY Rangers defensman) saying that helmets made hockey a lot more dangerous. He thought players were more more aggressive with helmets.
    Anyone remember Butch Goring?
    Back in '83, as a wee lad collecting hockey cards, I could've sworn his helmet was soft. It looked really wierd, like it was made out of something other

    then plastic.

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  • RoanokeFan
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    Originally posted by joemorrisforprez View Post
    That's pretty damning evidence.
    That will certainly be the position of the former players in their lawsuits.

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  • tcseacliff
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    Originally posted by joemorrisforprez View Post
    Speaking from the vantage point of someone who was hit in the eye with a high stick, I have to disagree. I'd never get on the ice again without a helmet and face cage.

    I get his point though.



    sometimes even the best equipment falls short:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v...ture=endscreen


    i do agree though, some equiptment may make you feel more invincible. look at the MMA guys, hardly any protection!!
    Last edited by tcseacliff; 11-16-2012, 08:24 PM.

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  • joemorrisforprez
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    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    Here's some relevant information as to the possible breadth and depth of the pending lawsuits.

    http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescri...s/Default.aspx
    That's pretty damning evidence.

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  • RoanokeFan
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    Here's some relevant information as to the possible breadth and depth of the pending lawsuits.

    http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescri...s/Default.aspx

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  • joemorrisforprez
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    Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
    Don't laugh. I remember Barry Beck (NY Rangers defensman) saying that helmets made hockey a lot more dangerous. He thought players were more more aggressive with helmets.
    Speaking from the vantage point of someone who was hit in the eye with a high stick, I have to disagree. I'd never get on the ice again without a helmet and face cage.

    I get his point though.
    Last edited by joemorrisforprez; 11-16-2012, 07:55 PM.

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  • YATittle1962
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    Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
    I remember at least 25 years ago seeing a special on TV about the new "soft" helmets.
    Maybe thats why they never took off....The "sound" of the game.
    it really puts where the leagues head is at into perspective

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  • njg85m
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    Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
    Don't laugh. I remember Barry Beck (NY Rangers defensman) saying that helmets made hockey a lot more dangerous. He thought players were more more aggressive with helmets.
    This is the truth and it's the only alternative to what we have now that would be any different.

    Not saying I am one of the voices advocating for it, but players aren't very likely to use their heads as projectiles without a helmet. The problem is though that serious head injuries may decline as a number, but the ones that do occur will be infinitely more serious than they are now.

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  • Morehead State
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    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    I'm just leaving that alone, thanks. Someone else has said "no helmets" and while I laughed at the time......
    Don't laugh. I remember Barry Beck (NY Rangers defensman) saying that helmets made hockey a lot more dangerous. He thought players were more more aggressive with helmets.

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  • RoanokeFan
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    Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
    I've got the solution.........smaller heads.
    I'm just leaving that alone, thanks. Someone else has said "no helmets" and while I laughed at the time......

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  • Morehead State
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    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    If a helmet can't be designed to prevent the brain from moving around inside he skull, it doesn't matter how tough they make it.
    I've got the solution.........smaller heads.

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  • joemorrisforprez
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    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    Concussions are in a class of their own because of the lingering, debilitating effects they have on brain function. You can live a long time with a limp or aches and pains.
    I think something can be done with helmets as well.....maybe a multi-layered helmet that absorbs impact like a car absorbs kinectic energy.

    Another option is to change other equipment so that a blow to the head isn't as easy..... think a medieval knight's armor.

    I think a connected helmet might also eliminate the whiplash effect that causes concussions...... often, a concussion occurs after the hit, when the helmet slams into the turf. A connected helmet might arrest alot of that velocity.
    Last edited by joemorrisforprez; 11-16-2012, 05:17 PM.

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