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    These two are not worth what Cofield was to us all of last season.

    We have had NO pass rush up the middle all season long, and these two are the reason for that.

    I know some will say "Well Joseph is a large run stuffer" but we aren't very good against the run either.

    We should have paid Barry Cofield what he wanted and cut Canty. The talent difference is undeniable as is production. If we have Cofield getting consistent pressure up the middle, this is a different team.

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    Re: Canty and Joseph

    I'm not mad at Joseph. I wasn't expecting a great deal from him this year, so he's not exceeding or falling below my expectations.

    Canty on the other hand is just so overpaid. He's one of our highest paid players and he hardly does anything.

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    • #3
      Re: Canty and Joseph

      [quote user="VBGiantsFan"]These two are not worth what Cofield was to us all of last season.

      We have had NO pass rush up the middle all season long, and these two are the reason for that.

      I know some will say "Well Joseph is a large run stuffer" but we aren't very good against the run either.

      We should have paid Barry Cofield what he wanted and cut Canty. The talent difference is undeniable as is production. If we have Cofield getting consistent pressure up the middle, this is a different team.[/quote]

      linval is not the problem... period

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      • #4
        Re: Canty and Joseph

        [quote user="VBGiantsFan"]These two are not worth what Cofield was to us all of last season.

        We have had NO pass rush up the middle all season long, and these two are the reason for that.

        I know some will say "Well Joseph is a large run stuffer" but we aren't very good against the run either.

        We should have paid Barry Cofield what he wanted and cut Canty. The talent difference is undeniable as is production. If we have Cofield getting consistent pressure up the middle, this is a different team.[/quote]

        it is extremely evident that you do not understand the duties of a DT in a 4 linemen defense

        this team has major LB issues.......they affect the secondary and they affect the line more than many of you understand

        Ill just leave it at that

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        • #5
          Re: Canty and Joseph

          [quote user="VBGiantsFan"]These two are not worth what Cofield was to us all of last season.

          We have had NO pass rush up the middle all season long, and these two are the reason for that.

          I know some will say "Well Joseph is a large run stuffer" but we aren't very good against the run either.

          We should have paid Barry Cofield what he wanted and cut Canty. The talent difference is undeniable as is production. If we have Cofield getting consistent pressure up the middle, this is a different team.[/quote]

          JR-JR-JR-JR GOT TO GO-GO-GO-GO

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          • #6
            Re: Canty and Joseph

            No one is playing well outside of JPP Period! End of story! Try to convince yourself diffrently all u want but your fooling yourself! Were not good up the gut against the run on the outside nor against the deep or short pass! Why u people continue to try and stick up for this team is beyond recolection! I don't care if its your team or not! They have the most embaressing games in the entire league way to often! Just pathetic!

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            • #7
              Re: Canty and Joseph

              [quote user="YATittle1962"][quote user="VBGiantsFan"]These two are not worth what Cofield was to us all of last season.

              We have had NO pass rush up the middle all season long, and these two are the reason for that.

              I know some will say "Well Joseph is a large run stuffer" but we aren't very good against the run either.

              We should have paid Barry Cofield what he wanted and cut Canty. The talent difference is undeniable as is production. If we have Cofield getting consistent pressure up the middle, this is a different team.[/quote]

              it is extremely evident that you do not understand the duties of a DT in a 4 linemen defense[/quote]

              Well then what are their duties? Because they're not generating pressure, they're not stopping the run, they're not opening up holes for other defenders...so what are their duties and what are they doing right?

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              • #8
                Re: Canty and Joseph

                [quote user="YATittle1962"][quote user="VBGiantsFan"]These two are not worth what Cofield was to us all of last season.

                We have had NO pass rush up the middle all season long, and these two are the reason for that.

                I know some will say "Well Joseph is a large run stuffer" but we aren't very good against the run either.

                We should have paid Barry Cofield what he wanted and cut Canty. The talent difference is undeniable as is production. If we have Cofield getting consistent pressure up the middle, this is a different team.[/quote]

                it is extremely evident that you do not understand the duties of a DT in a 4 linemen defense

                this team has major LB issues.......they affect the secondary and they affect the line more than many of you understand

                Ill just leave it at that[/quote]

                amen..to be honest canty has played very well this year..and im pumped about what joesph has done this year..throw austin into the mix next year and we may have someting next year...I know this team does not value lbers in the draft but we have neglected this position for too long.

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                • #9
                  Re: Canty and Joseph

                  [quote user="Overdrive92"][quote user="YATittle1962"][quote user="VBGiantsFan"]These two are not worth what Cofield was to us all of last season.

                  We have had NO pass rush up the middle all season long, and these two are the reason for that.

                  I know some will say "Well Joseph is a large run stuffer" but we aren't very good against the run either.

                  We should have paid Barry Cofield what he wanted and cut Canty. The talent difference is undeniable as is production. If we have Cofield getting consistent pressure up the middle, this is a different team.[/quote]

                  it is extremely evident that you do not understand the duties of a DT in a 4 linemen defense[/quote]

                  Well then what are their duties? Because they're not generating pressure, they're not stopping the run, they're not opening up holes for other defenders...so what are their duties and what are they doing right?[/quote]

                  joesph has gotten push up the middle all year..our lbers and d-backs are poor tacklers...watch the game today again..ull see

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                  • #10
                    Re: Canty and Joseph

                    We need another Keith Hamilton...great pass rusher as well as run stopper...just minus beating kids with belts...

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                    • #11
                      Re: Canty and Joseph

                      Joseph has played very well his rookie season...
                      "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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                      • #12
                        Re: Canty and Joseph

                        You show more loyalty to the guys you draft....I'd much rather have showed canty the door & matched the redskins offer to Coefield.....he's a better player than canty & makes less $$$.....enough said

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                        • #13
                          Re: Canty and Joseph

                          [quote user="NYG4lifeNYK"]Joseph has played very well his rookie season...
                          [/quote]

                          its his second season but yes he has been a bright spot imo.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Canty and Joseph

                            [quote user="allentown PA"][quote user="VBGiantsFan"]These two are not worth what Cofield was to us all of last season.

                            We have had NO pass rush up the middle all season long, and these two are the reason for that.

                            I know some will say "Well Joseph is a large run stuffer" but we aren't very good against the run either.

                            We should have paid Barry Cofield what he wanted and cut Canty. The talent difference is undeniable as is production. If we have Cofield getting consistent pressure up the middle, this is a different team.[/quote]

                            linval is not the problem... period[/quote]
                            Yes but u can't dispute the original point of this thread. No pressure up middle and with a 50% tuck and OSI not here half the year, it's a credit to JPP that we even get any sacks. They could triple team him and those other 3 still couldnt find their way to the QB
                            Football has been very, very good to us.
                            After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                            But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                            # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                            1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                            2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                            3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                            4-New York Giants!!!
                            5-NE
                            Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                            ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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                            • #15
                              Re: Canty and Joseph

                              Canty and Joseph are just OK players, that's really all they are.

                              Canty, like many FA pickups is a good play that got paid great player money, Joseph is a young DT, a position that usually takes a couple of seasons for a player to really excel.

                              Agree with Y.A. our LBers are so bad it's basically crippling our defense.
                              All Hail The New York Giants!!

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