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  • bigjeep
    started a topic Y.A. Tittle

    Y.A. Tittle

    The greatest Giants QB of all time!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMvmUiWOM_o

  • YATittle1962
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    Originally posted by cva14 View Post
    Hey Stormblue... How did that all work? Was that when Don Heinrich, the #3 QB would play the first guarter and Chuckin Charlie or YA would play the rest of the game. But you are absolutely right. YA Tittle going vertical to Del Shofner was a thing of beauty.
    Heinrich was never a teammate of YA

    and yeah for some reason Jim Lee Howell loved for Heinrich to start the game then put Charlie in ......not sure anyone ever understood why.... including the players and other coaches

    during Tittles first season with the Giants Conerly would often come in if YA was struggling

    and yes YA to Shofner was quite a sight

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  • zimonami
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    Originally posted by BurnerNYG View Post
    I'm curious to know where does poor Kerry Collins rank amongst Giants QB's? I mean the man did somewhat help pull us up from the depths of mediocrity. I'll remember that 41-0 beatdown of the Vikes forever. Lots of good memories with those Giants... some heartbreakers too but that comes with the territory.
    I agree with YA's assessment that YA, Eli, and Phil were 3 very great QB's, and why bother comparing or setting a rank.
    Beyond them you must put Charlie Conerly as a close 2nd to those 3.
    Then, I think you'd have to put Tarkenton...
    Then, Collins.
    So, I have Collins rated 6th

    As far as Simms mobility... no question he was the fastest and most mobile between he, YA, and Eli... but he was a statue in the pocket and rarely looked to run. YA was actually surprisingly mobile in vid clips I've seen of him palying with the 49ers in his early years.

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  • cva14
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    Hey Stormblue... How did that all work? Was that when Don Heinrich, the #3 QB would play the first guarter and Chuckin Charlie or YA would play the rest of the game. But you are absolutely right. YA Tittle going vertical to Del Shofner was a thing of beauty.

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  • cva14
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    All that said and done, I'm not sure today's game has better entertainment value than YA's era. The frequency and severity of today's injuries--the trend will kill the game. It's simple physics. Velocity x mass = force. Today a 250# guy can run like a sprinter. The collision impact is producing concussions at an alarming rate. It will be like watching movies without stars. Personally I question how far you can go with rules to protect players, Given that I don't see players giving up speed, and it doesn't look like they have equipment solutions, but conceivably you could introduce weight limits. Sound crazy. Go watch a Bud Wilkinson Oklahoma line block. They averaged about 185 pounds. Go watch any 330 pound NFL team block today. Compared to Wilkinson's teams, todays players just kind of get in each other's way.

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  • bigjeep
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    Originally posted by YATittle1962 View Post
    I respect your opinion my man

    but if you saw the man play you would understand my stance more I assure you

    my love for the player is not strictly romantic nostalgia .......I love him because he was one hell of a QB who brought an electric excitement into this city for years

    when YA was in the game you always felt like you had a chance to win

    very similar to Eli today
    He broke the touchdown passing record one season if I remember right! Also the pass receivers could be hit and blocked until the ball was in the air. I wonder how many QB's today would have half the numbers with those rules?

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  • stormblue
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    i can honestly say that Simms is the only Giants QB i ever saw play live.
    and it was actually in the Astrodome....he ripped them a new ice-hole.
    also 11 is the only signed jersey in my collection.
    i could very well be biased in my assessments.

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  • YATittle1962
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    Originally posted by stormblue View Post
    hey , you love the guy....thus the avatar.

    i can respect that.

    and i'm not gonna change my mind ,

    so i'll just STFU and let you be.
    I respect your opinion my man

    but if you saw the man play you would understand my stance more I assure you

    my love for the player is not strictly romantic nostalgia .......I love him because he was one hell of a QB who brought an electric excitement into this city for years

    when YA was in the game you always felt like you had a chance to win

    very similar to Eli today

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  • stormblue
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    hey , you love the guy....thus the avatar.

    i can respect that.

    and i'm not gonna change my mind ,

    so i'll just STFU and let you be.

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  • YATittle1962
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    Originally posted by stormblue View Post
    3 straight championship losses......couldn't win the big one
    anyways with only a 4 year body of work to be classified as an all=time greatest on
    any team is just ludicrous .
    when Payton retires in 2 years is he gonna be the greatest Bronco ?
    get real.
    it is not important how you feel about this ....not at all

    it is important how the Maras feel about it

    and they feel he is one of the best Giants of all time.......retired his number out of respect for what he did for this organization

    and his bust sits in the Legacy room of the stadium....and it also sits in a little room Canton Ohio

    so yours and my opinion = absolutely meaningless

    Maras opinion = everything

    opinion of his peers = everything


    and the Peyton comparison is completely ridiculous

    Peyton and Montana have championships in their previous cities......they are heroes there....icons

    YA did not have that type of impact in SF
    Last edited by YATittle1962; 11-18-2012, 03:26 PM.

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  • YATittle1962
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    Originally posted by stormblue View Post
    his last year in '64 , the Giants went 2-10-2
    and YA had only 10 td's vs 22 pics.i don't even think Dave Brown can match that.
    hey , he did really great for a temp hired gun.....but he wasn't a Giant long enough to qualify.

    there were only 14 teams (10 of which sucked) and 2 divisions.....the championship was the ONLY playoff game.
    he choked all 3 times......3 times 1 and done. (Romo-esque)
    even Kerry Collins had a few post season wins (as an old hired gun....and equatable to YA as such)

    this guy was one of the games all-time famous-for-nothing legends. Kelly...Tarkenton....there is
    a long list of QB's with equal or better stats that never won anything.
    he probably isn't even in the top 10 best of the ones without a ring.

    Marino,Tarkenton,Moon,Kelly.....etc.

    for the record...
    26th all-time passing yards. which is very respectable ,but not top 10.
    18th all time in TD's (242) pretty good , but still not even close to top 10.

    the only thing YA tittle was in the top 10 in was.....
    9th all-time in interceptions thrown.
    he threw 248 int's , but only 242 TD's

    he actually threw 6 more pics than td's.
    not even Favre can say that !!

    in the '61 championship game we got shut out 37 to nothing - Bart Starr 37 YA 0
    in the '62 championship game our only score was a defensive touchdown . YA 0
    in the '63 championship game , YA threw 5 pics.

    overrated , over-hyped ....regular season stats but big choker in the big games.
    you obviously never saw him play


    that "big choker" has a gold jacket .....thats how much he choked



    go look up Gale Sayers stats.....and Lynn Swanns stats.....were they over hyped and overrated as well?

    stats don't tell the whole story
    Last edited by YATittle1962; 11-18-2012, 04:56 PM.

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  • stormblue
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    that Ravens defense stripped him of his manhood.

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  • BParcells777
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    Originally posted by NYG 5 View Post
    easy to say when the likes of glenn parker, dusty zeigler, old lomas brown, jeff roehl were protecting him with one WR the entire time
    Kerry Collins cowardice made me want to vomit...........I never once saw the guy step up in the pocket to avoid a rush........What an embarassment that guy was

    His one highlight was Minny 41-0.........then he came out in the SB throwing Piks like he was getting a Pik bonus

    The sad part was he replaced a guy who took us to the playoffs- Danny Kannel- a great game manager, and nifty runner. Its always about the arm......when as Parcells once said- 90% of the QB position is between the ears

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  • NYG 5
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    easy to say when the likes of glenn parker, dusty zeigler, old lomas brown, jeff roehl were protecting him with one WR the entire time

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  • BParcells777
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    Collins was a coward, much like Sanchez, and David Carr.........afraid of contact he would step in the bucket and throw off his back foot constantly

    Both guys (Collins and Sanchez) have NFL all time Pick Six legacys.............Simms must have been disgusted watching Collins

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