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  • #31
    Let's not try to rationalize the game by criticizing RGIII. His numbers might not have been pretty, but he was incredibly effective. He had NY off guard all night. If he played for us, we'd all be crowning him as the next legend.
    My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by bigbluetribe View Post
      This is just a fad, they run a very simple yet different offense. Bob can make plays with his feet yes, hes fast as heck, but he will get beat up over time, people will figure out this scheme and he will nothing more than a normal qb. I give them credit for what they did, our coaches are dumb so that certaintly helps but as a qb hes hasnt show me much, they set him up for simple things and he executes, time will tell but im not worried
      You could be right, but I'm not so sure about that. RGIII is forcing defenses to think, rather than react instinctively. Even worse, it forces defenses to gamble. Sometimes you're right, and sometimes you get torched. I would hate to be a defensive coordinator game-planning against this offense.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by JJC7301 View Post
        I thought that we played very well against him -- they scored 17 points. Problem was that we scored only 16. Not airing the ball out more to take advantage of the skins greatest weekness was a mind boggling decision.
        It's like this teams gets retarted when we play division rivals....Pass was working to perfection the first half and you basically stop throwing lol. Oh man this team....
        sigpicShould the Giants fire Gilbride....

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONL7L...yer_detailpage

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        • #34
          Originally posted by gmen0820 View Post
          Let's not try to rationalize the game by criticizing RGIII. His numbers might not have been pretty, but he was incredibly effective. He had NY off guard all night. If he played for us, we'd all be crowning him as the next legend.
          No I wouldn't cause I know in the playoffs you have tyo go through your progressions and make tough difficult throws...consistently. I mean they are kinda of right the hype with this kid is "SICKENING". It's a team sport and he is always mentioned before their team. I think that will ware thin in the locker room. Anyway Eli played incredible last night and some of the throws he made wow. I haven't seen RG3 make those kinda of throws.
          Last edited by Eliscruzzz; 12-04-2012, 01:12 PM.
          sigpicShould the Giants fire Gilbride....

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONL7L...yer_detailpage

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          • #35
            Originally posted by gmen0820 View Post
            Let's not try to rationalize the game by criticizing RGIII. His numbers might not have been pretty, but he was incredibly effective. He had NY off guard all night. If he played for us, we'd all be crowning him as the next legend.
            Agreed. It wasn't a statistical night for him but he managed to not be responsible for any turnovers and did engineer that TD in the 2nd half that put his team on the top. Reminded me of the SF game last year in the NFC championship that was mostly about ball security.

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            • #36
              here are their numbers ; just in case anyone cares.

              -----------------------ELI-------------------RGIII
              TD passes.........16.....................17
              INT's thrown........11.....................4
              passing yards.....3170.................2677...(with 61 less passes thrown than Eli)
              rushing yards........25....................714...(by the way...thats only 120 less than Ahmad Bradshaw)
              total yards...........3195................3391
              QB rating.............85.3.................104.4
              pass comp. %......60.7%.............67.2%
              yds per pass .......7.4...................8.2
              dropped passes.....28..................28.

              i know , you're gonna say stats don't matter......its the intangibles....
              RGIII has stats and intangibles.
              due to the fact that I am from the Woodstock generation ...
              my opinions may be chemically enhanced and influenced by severe episodes of memory loss

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              • #37
                Originally posted by bigbluetribe View Post
                This is just a fad, they run a very simple yet different offense. Bob can make plays with his feet yes, hes fast as heck, but he will get beat up over time, people will figure out this scheme and he will nothing more than a normal qb. I give them credit for what they did, our coaches are dumb so that certaintly helps but as a qb hes hasnt show me much, they set him up for simple things and he executes, time will tell but im not worried
                Yes but you also have to account for that fact that Bob is precise with the football, can throw short, deep, and intermediate passes accurately. He's intelligent enough to understand running Qbs don't have a long lifespan in the NFL.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by stormblue View Post
                  here are their numbers ; just in case anyone cares.

                  -----------------------ELI-------------------RGIII
                  TD passes.........16.....................17
                  INT's thrown........11.....................4
                  passing yards.....3170.................2677...(with 61 less passes thrown than Eli)
                  rushing yards........25....................714...(by the way...thats only 120 less than Ahmad Bradshaw)
                  total yards...........3195................3391
                  QB rating.............85.3.................104.4
                  pass comp. %......60.7%.............67.2%
                  yds per pass .......7.4...................8.2
                  dropped passes.....28..................28.

                  i know , you're gonna say stats don't matter......its the intangibles....
                  RGIII has stats and intangibles.
                  If you want to be really cruel compare RG3s to Eli's rookie numbers. Don't get me wrong, I love Eli and ESPNs lovefest for RG3 is over the top but he deserves more credit than being called a "fad".
                  Miss me yet? sigpic

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Eliscruzzz View Post
                    It's like this teams gets retarted when we play division rivals....Pass was working to perfection the first half and you basically stop throwing lol. Oh man this team....
                    Yeah, why is Gillbride so stubborn and keeps running with Bradshaw, when Eli was throwing accurate? What happened to the no huddle that Eli does well with?
                    Getting back to topic at hand, RG111's game last night was nothing near spectacular, yet the win was blown way out of proportion. Its not like he had an amazing 4th quarter comeback with 3 touchdowns. It was simply a sub par game that was only won simply from a fluke play and a few lucky calls that went their way.
                    Gotta be in it to win it

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                    • #40
                      therein lies the problem.....for him , he had a relatively off night...and still beat us anyway.
                      due to the fact that I am from the Woodstock generation ...
                      my opinions may be chemically enhanced and influenced by severe episodes of memory loss

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by stormblue View Post
                        therein lies the problem.....for him , he had a relatively off night...and still beat us anyway.
                        The refs beat us not him.

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                        • #42
                          The first thing that beat the Giants was the coaching staff. They didn't have this team ready to play 60 minutes of ball, period. Secondly, Kildrive is still the OC because he's tommys butt boy, simple. If he was anywhere near a decent OC he'd have had a HC job by now( 2 SB rings)!. This team is in serious trouble, they caught the pack with 1/2 their D on the sidelines and beat them. We need players on the O line, LB's and A real DT not an overpriced 3-4 DE behaving like a 4-3 DT. But I digress. You remember the Wildcat? Well after the coaches in the NFL figure out a solid game plan for Bob! he'll become a QB instead of a sideshow geek. Yes he has talent but don't go nutz. 6 teams beat the skins including the Giants! We had them in our pocket until they went to sleep during half time. YOU MUST PLAY 60 MINUTES, THEY DIDN'T. Oh another thing, The refs suc***. Go Giants. I'm hating snyder today!

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Eliscruzzz View Post
                            No I wouldn't cause I know in the playoffs you have tyo go through your progressions and make tough difficult throws...consistently. I mean they are kinda of right the hype with this kid is "SICKENING". It's a team sport and he is always mentioned before their team. I think that will ware thin in the locker room. Anyway Eli played incredible last night and some of the throws he made wow. I haven't seen RG3 make those kinda of throws.
                            Then maybe you aren't watching him enough. These stick throws you're alluding too hardly make it on highlights, but rest assured RGIII is making them. He's shown everything it takes to be an effective passer in this league, and the added threat of his athleticism is sickening to DCs around the league.

                            And yeah, team sport, but the QB will always be the most important part of the team.
                            My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Cool Papa B. View Post
                              Actually Vick didn't become a good passer until after he left prison. Don't know how he morphed into a good passer, but he did. During his years in Atlanta, he was fast and elusive as heck.
                              I must have missed that game.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by gmen0820 View Post
                                Then maybe you aren't watching him enough. These stick throws you're alluding too hardly make it on highlights, but rest assured RGIII is making them. He's shown everything it takes to be an effective passer in this league, and the added threat of his athleticism is sickening to DCs around the league.

                                And yeah, team sport, but the QB will always be the most important part of the team.
                                Give it some time, this guy will be just as washed up as Mike Vick is now. Talented yes, but running quarterbacks are prone to injuries. How many times has Vick been injured? He's just about ready to hang up his cleats. Griffin took a big hit last night, and I know there will be a time when he's not going to pop right back up, it's just a matter of time.
                                Not the actual Man, Myth, Legend....Just a Giant fan since birth, I come in peace

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