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  • Originally posted by Chris Christie View Post
    Thats a silly statement, there's a reason why it's the #1 rated news network for many years. It's not because nobody watches it. Gotta have at least 1 network that leans one way, because all the rest lean the other way. ESPN is a quality sports network, however they tend to get infatuated with a certain player each season. This year it's RG3.
    It's the 1# rated network because it's the only one that talks about ALL sports, Monday night football is on it and most college football games. And all lesser sports are on it. It's not like there's a tennis network. It's the 1# network because they say shock value sort of things that make people come back. They're not objective and the amount of content that they have forces people on there.



    They could be talking about the revival of the colts after Paganos cancer. Or Charlies Batches emotional win against the ravens. Or AP making history with his incredible comeback. Instead they still talk about Tebow.

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    • Originally posted by Eliscruzzz View Post
      He was making a comparison you were explaining why Fox does what ever it does and that's not football....I'm done right here. The thread is about RG3 and his mediocre play right??? So why not get back to that?? Also I was just looking out. The mods take political talk very serious and will ban you...
      Stop I get it, I didn't talk politics...I read die hards disclaimer.....I coulda been talking about Disney vs cartoon network. That's why I didn't use the words right or left. Reread my post I never explained why they do what they do. He's the one that threw the brick, I simply replied....and I did get back to the topic at hand in the same post.
      Not the actual Man, Myth, Legend....Just a Giant fan since birth, I come in peace

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      • They just said in the pre game talk, that the "red hot RG3" will take on the Ravens lol.....he couldn't be further from red hot. The team may be red hot but not him only. It's not a one man team.
        Gotta be in it to win it

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        • This thread is wrong, he did play well. Keep in mind he had MULTIPLE dropped passes where he hit guys in the hands.

          However, I still think it was Alfred Morris that beat us.
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          • I think the best way to play this guy is with a 3-4 defense; especially with Philip's out. The Giants have the people to play him that way.

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            • Originally posted by Tmurda1984 View Post
              RG3 was a threat everytime he had the ball in his hands. RG3 opened up all the opportunities for Garcon, Pauleson, and Morris. We left Garcon WIDE OPEN ON A SLANT PASS...and why is that? Because our linebackers were keying in on what RG3 was doing. Our offense even tried to keep RG3 off the field, and they did....and that was our only legitimate way of stopping RG3. RG3 singlehandley fooled our Defensive front and made them insignificent throughout the contest. I was hoping we switched to a 3-4 in the middle of that game.

              Yes the Redskins are a .500 team as we speak, but that does not mean they cannot improve on that. If it wasnt for they sorry secondary they would of swept us this year. I cant stand RG3, but you have to give this man his respect....we did not have many possessions and as a rookie he had more poise than any1 on our team. And also remember that Alfred Morris is also a 6round rookie as his sidekick.

              We have Eli Manning and a veteran Bradshaw and a 1st round rookie against a sorry secondary and no Orakpo....and our offensive looked like a hot mess. If it wasn't for Tynes, we would probably be a .500 team or even worse.

              7 yards a carry.

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              • Originally posted by YATittle1962 View Post
                I like RG III

                but he will one day have to learn to read defenses

                every play they run is based off the option , play action and the zone blocking scheme

                go take a look at the Redskins 3rd and long percentage.......

                if this kid had to drop back and read defenses the way Andrew Luck does in his offense he would get killed

                at some point you need to read the coverage and throw the ball down the field

                RG III can physically make all the throws......but he cannot yet read defenses and sooner or later he will have to learn or he will end up an injured mess

                this is not college ....this is the NFL

                I like him too but it's not like he designed this offense. This is all Shanahan.

                Griffin makes it work and he's very talented but without fantastic coaching and a killer O line this conversation doesn't even happen.

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                • Originally posted by stormblue View Post
                  i know , you can never get past the truth.
                  and when shown the proof you choose to ignore it...

                  i wasn't trying to anoint RG3 , i was just giving him credit for beating us...
                  you homers started comparing him to Eli ....its not my fault you don't have the numbers
                  to back up your false statements.

                  i am not putting him the Hall....i'm not even putting him top 5 right now.
                  i just put him ahead of your BFF. and trust me ,that is no where near idolatry.

                  @G4life.....

                  this post applies to you too.

                  I love when someone confuses statistics with the truth.

                  One is sometimes a unit of measure, one is a fact.

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                  • Originally posted by stormblue View Post
                    total amount of yards passing divided by the number of pass attempts.
                    pretty simple math.

                    as far as interpretation , its self-explanatory.
                    but , for the less advanced students amongst us , i will explain ;
                    this is the average yards gained per pass attempt... regardless if completed or not.

                    if there are those among us that prefer a less all-encompassing stat.....

                    yards per completed catch ......need i interpret that one too ?
                    yards per catch ,,,,they are both 12.2.

                    either way.....he doesn't "dink and dunk" any more than Eli.

                    so just give him his "game manager" ...."got lucky"....."mobile QB won't last or win the big one"
                    one time victory over a team that "we beat ourselves" and move on.
                    next time we'll kick his ice-bucket. no big deal.

                    but in the meantime..hopefully Eli will do better this week and at least outscore Tynes.
                    if that happens......maybe we can outscore that dinkin' dunkin' #9 for once....
                    and you guys can have a reason to revel in your BFF's eliteness.

                    This is an excellent rant; I really like it.

                    I don't agree with the statistical blather.....which is of course nonsense, but the overall post is excellent.

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                    • Why do people keep saying that the Redskins have a killer O-Line? Its decent but not a killer O-line. Zone blocking and option offenses is built to help offensive linemen who are not maulers. Even when I was in highschool we had a smallish Offensive Line and ran a zone blocking veer offense and it helped us playing against St. Joe's, Don Bosco and even Teaneck when Tamba Hali was out there.

                      Shanahan is known for having smallish athletic offensive lines to incorporate the zone blocking scheme. Zone blocking takes the entire offensive line to work together and the instincts to know who to leave unblocked and during a double team (who to scrape off to the second level defenders). There are many trap blocks and pulls. This made is hard for our Defensive Line because when you are even in highschool you are told to fight against the trap block instead of running around it. RG3 was able to run the option from either side of the formation from the pistol formation. It was an excellent scheme for a small O Line and negated anything our Dline could do....It was a guessing game for Defensive Ends. This is why I suggested never running a 4-3 against this scheme. Many college teams run a 4-4 and 50 defense.
                      " In Reese to Sign a Bust"

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                      • Originally posted by Sarcasman View Post
                        I like him too but it's not like he designed this offense. This is all Shanahan.

                        Griffin makes it work and he's very talented but without fantastic coaching and a killer O line this conversation doesn't even happen.
                        no he didn't design the offense

                        but he has never had to drop back and read a defense in his life

                        my point is he will eventually need to learn to do that or he will be captain concussion

                        this pistol read option is not going to work forever

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                        • Originally posted by YATittle1962 View Post
                          no he didn't design the offense

                          but he has never had to drop back and read a defense in his life

                          my point is he will eventually need to learn to do that or he will be captain concussion
                          excellent point and lets not forget how teams will go to school on him next year...this is a league based on adjustments...not saying he won't be very good, but Cam Newton was all the hype last year and he has been humbled a bit this year, not comparing the two but only time will tell with RG3.

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                          • Originally posted by YATittle1962 View Post
                            no he didn't design the offense

                            but he has never had to drop back and read a defense in his life

                            my point is he will eventually need to learn to do that or he will be captain concussion

                            this pistol read option is not going to work forever
                            Big Ben made a career not being able to read defenses. All he does is buy enough time for his receivers to eventually run free. People said that Big Ben would be captain concussion as well, but he won 2 superbowls and still have the steelers looking decent. The NFL is about big plays, and these guys are playmakers.
                            " In Reese to Sign a Bust"

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                            • Originally posted by alentown pa View Post
                              excellent point and lets not forget how teams will go to school on him next year...this is a league based on adjustments...not saying he won't be very good, but Cam Newton was all the hype last year and he has been humbled a bit this year, not comparing the two but only time will tell with RG3.
                              Cam Newton does not have any weapons at all out there. The blame goes around to Carolina's entire offense. Deangelo Williams and Stewart are the worst starting running backs in the NFL. Brandon Lafell should be a 4th receiver and there offensive line is the biggest joke of an offensive line (Ryan Kalil is about as overrated as Jake Long).
                              " In Reese to Sign a Bust"

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                              • Originally posted by Tmurda1984 View Post
                                Cam Newton does not have any weapons at all out there. The blame goes around to Carolina's entire offense. Deangelo Williams and Stewart are the worst starting running backs in the NFL. Brandon Lafell should be a 4th receiver and there offensive line is the biggest joke of an offensive line (Ryan Kalil is about as overrated as Jake Long).
                                good points..cant argue anything you said..but Cam was the hype just like RG3 is this year..all i am saying is teams will go to school on him..time will tell imo.

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