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  • Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
    That's what I would like to know too. If he thinks so, please back it up with reasons. What has he done to get your panties in such a bunch? Personally, I think the Giants are 1 of the best run teams in sports, and it has nothing to do with wins and losses. It is why I like them to be honest.

    I also think a fan of a team run by Snyder is VERY ill equipped to bring up ownership and class.

    So again, back up that statement. I want to know why you think the most charitable owners in pro sports are POS.

    If it is because the Maras asked the league to look at the skins salary cap issue, well that is not on the Mara's it is on ALL the owners who agreed with them. Then when the Skins and Boys appeals the Maras were nto involved in that process and the other owners still upheld the penalty. So do you hate them too? Is every owner who found your team in violation a POS too?
    Would any owner logically reject the accusations? Would they say "NO STOP! I want the skins and boys to have cap room. Don't be mean!!!" ? Hell no.

    Anyways if you want to read up more about his beautiful self (COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO CAPGATE) feel free.

    Makes a rule because he had a bad game against the skins - turns into one of the worst rules ever. I just don't like him. Sorry. You guys can hate Snyder, i'll hate Mara

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000099733/article/giants-ceo-wants-to-nix-challenge-rule-he-pushed-for

    And of course he's not advocating rule changes that more harshly punish teams/people that, lets say... drop to the ground to fake injuries?

    I'm just saying, I see him as a corrupted POS. That won't change. Sorry.
    Last edited by JustnSayin; 12-05-2012, 07:12 AM.

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    • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
      We have one of the best owners in pro sports.

      Other than that, your point is well taken.
      +1

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      • 1A) excellent post and true words

        1B) GOD BLESS the MARA's and the TISCHES...

        Danny boy Snyder is a true PoS...
        Last edited by giantyankee1976; 12-05-2012, 08:58 AM.


        NFL Championships : 1927 1934 1938 1956 Super Bowl Champions: XXI XXV XLII XLVI

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        • Originally posted by TrueBlue10 View Post
          I believe the OP has made one of the best posts I've ever seen on these boards. Well done, Redskins fan.

          Also, obviously I disagree on the Mara bit, but I can understand his outburst since apparently Mara worked against the 'Skins for that ... thinger-a-other....y'know, that thing where the 'Skins got fined for doing something. I can't remember any of the details but they did mention it in the MNF pre-game. .... doesn't matter.

          Anyway, good post, JustSayin!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          The coaches of this team have plenty to be critized about. Exercizing our right to
          do that has nothing to do with being a true fan. In fact, if you are not upset enough
          at many aspects of this team/staff to call them out, at least some of the time,
          I question how much of a fan you really are. How can you not be upset after watching
          some of the geniously coached games/teams this year. Case in point, the skins just
          about shutting down our O for the last 2 years is ALL about coaching.

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          • Originally posted by OX1 View Post
            The coaches of this team have plenty to be critized about. Exercizing our right to
            do that has nothing to do with being a true fan. In fact, if you are not upset enough
            at many aspects of this team/staff to call them out, at least some of the time,
            I question how much of a fan you really are. How can you not be upset after watching
            some of the geniously coached games/teams this year. Case in point, the skins just
            about shutting down our O for the last 2 years is ALL about coaching.
            No one is saying that the team or the coaches should be immune from criticism. It's the over the top criticism -- calling for the firing of Super Bowl Champion coaches after every loss -- that is just downright stupid.
            Last edited by GMENAGAIN; 12-05-2012, 11:21 AM.

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            • Originally posted by GMENAGAIN View Post
              No one is saying that the team or the coaches should be immune from criticism. It's the over the top criticism -- calling for the firing of Super Bowl Champion coaches after every loss -- that is just downright stupid.
              THIS, holy crap, THIS


              NFL Championships : 1927 1934 1938 1956 Super Bowl Champions: XXI XXV XLII XLVI

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              • Originally posted by JustSayin View Post
                Redskins Fan Here.

                I'm not here to talk smack about yesterdays game. All I have to say is blame the refs as you will, but big blue couldn't be stopped if they would have passed the ball. Our pass D is absolutely HORRIBLE. Good game nevertheless.

                I've been through the likes of Jason Campbell, Donovan, Fat Albert, Adam Archuleta, JOHN BECK, Sexy Rexy, Shaun Suisham, Graham gaNO.

                I've seen the Redskins attempt their swinging gate, have a Monday night massacre against Philly and just outright suck in every way, shape and form.

                But through all the suckage I've been able to sit back and reflect on the glory days. The hogs. Darrell Green. Art Monk. Charles Mann.

                I've silently browsed these (along with the Eagles and Cowboys) forums for a while, and I've noticed one sad thing. Many of you are entirely OBLIVIOUS. You bash your team, your players and your coach non-stop. You've won two superbowls with this group and are the defending champs, yet many of you claim that you're "Done".

                All I came here to say was, and without trying to be an antogonist, ENJOY THE GLORY DAYS. Giant's football is very much alive. You guys always start sucking this time of year and then BAM, Superbowl.

                There will be times in the future, I PROMISE, that you will feel like the biggest jackass for bashing this team. Wake up and be good fans. It's embarassing. Obviously this doesn't apply to everybody.

                Sure, your co-owner Mara is a POS - but I felt it my duty to remind you guys that one day you will return to the cellar of the NFC east (just like every team does eventually) and will look back on these days fondly. Enjoy them.

                Sincerely,
                A fan who has seen A LOT
                I appreciate your comments. I don't understand all the Mara hatred though.

                We are not firing on all cylinders and could not get past your team with a so so effort. I said when Shanhan took the job the Skins would become our new rivals in the division

                Eagles and Cowboys are fading, and Shanhan obviously knows what he is doing.......always has......he is just a rough around the edges personality- but results count too
                Last edited by BParcells777; 12-05-2012, 12:09 PM.

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                • Originally posted by giantyankee1976 View Post
                  THIS, holy crap, THIS
                  While I certainly agree that calling for coaches to be fired after tough losses is silly, its a fans right to be "fanatical" after a tough loss.
                  Its just blowing off steam and dealing with frustration.
                  Calmer heads do eventually prevail. (usually)
                  Its all part of the dance. Embrace it.
                  Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                  • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                    While I certainly agree that calling for coaches to be fired after tough losses is silly, its a fans right to be "fanatical" after a tough loss.
                    Its just blowing off steam and dealing with frustration.
                    Calmer heads do eventually prevail. (usually)
                    Its all part of the dance. Embrace it.
                    but this kind of knee-jerk reaction rarely happens...unless your the Lakers.

                    bottomline is we have to see if Fewell has the capability to gameplan to negate RG and Morris...

                    and for me, trading our FGs made for TDs to be would have made a lot of differences in many of the games our Team has played in at least the last 2 seasons.


                    NFL Championships : 1927 1934 1938 1956 Super Bowl Champions: XXI XXV XLII XLVI

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                    • Originally posted by BParcells777 View Post
                      I appreciate your comments. I don't understand all the Maa hatred though.
                      Redskins fans are pissed that they lost money on the salary cap and blame Mara for that. The Redskins and Cowboys dumped used the uncapped year as an opportunity to dump salary to free up cap space in subsequent years. The league told teams repeatedly not to do it, but the Cowboys and Redskins did it anyway. Whether the league has the authority to actually tell them what to do in an uncapped year is certainly up for dispute.

                      In any event, the Redskins and Cowboys went on with the dumping and the league instituted serious cap penalties on them this season. Mara came out and said he thought the penalties were appropriate and they are lucky they didn't lose draft picks, so now Redskins fans hate him for saying that.

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                      • whatever.........I'm more worried abotu the Redskins team, than the Redskins fan opinion

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                        • Originally posted by TrueBlue2180 View Post
                          Redskins fans are pissed that they lost money on the salary cap and blame Mara for that. The Redskins and Cowboys dumped used the uncapped year as an opportunity to dump salary to free up cap space in subsequent years. The league told teams repeatedly not to do it, but the Cowboys and Redskins did it anyway. Whether the league has the authority to actually tell them what to do in an uncapped year is certainly up for dispute.

                          In any event, the Redskins and Cowboys went on with the dumping and the league instituted serious cap penalties on them this season. Mara came out and said he thought the penalties were appropriate and they are lucky they didn't lose draft picks, so now Redskins fans hate him for saying that.
                          Just to add a fact to this foolishness, 29 owners voted to penalize the Cowboys and Redskins. Of the three that didn't, you can guess who two were and the third was also investigated for a lesser infraction and didn't vote.
                          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                          • Originally posted by giantyankee1976 View Post
                            but this kind of knee-jerk reaction rarely happens...unless your the Lakers.

                            bottomline is we have to see if Fewell has the capability to gameplan to negate RG and Morris...

                            and for me, trading our FGs made for TDs to be would have made a lot of differences in many of the games our Team has played in at least the last 2 seasons.
                            I don't know...I think it happens all the time. If you ask 10 Giants fans what the problem is this year, you get 10 different answers. Ultimately in today's NFL anyone can beat anyone. Everyone has good coaches and players. So when we lose a game like this fans get frustrated. So its no one's fault and its everyone's fault. Its just the modern NFL. So let them vent because no one (shockingly even Morehead) really knows why we win ot lose from game to game in real detail. The game is just too complicated. So we wear our hearts on our sleeves and overreact like we're supposed to.
                            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                            • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                              Just to add a fact to this foolishness, 29 owners voted to penalize the Cowboys and Redskins. Of the three that didn't, you can guess who two were and the third was also investigated for a lesser infraction and didn't vote.
                              Exactly. 28 organizations didn't take advantage/abuse the fact that it was an uncapped year (Skins, Boys, and to a lesser extent the Saints and Raiders did), but Mara is the ****. Go figure.

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                              • Originally posted by JustSayin View Post
                                Redskins Fan Here.

                                I'm not here to talk smack about yesterdays game. All I have to say is blame the refs as you will, but big blue couldn't be stopped if they would have passed the ball. Our pass D is absolutely HORRIBLE. Good game nevertheless.

                                I've been through the likes of Jason Campbell, Donovan, Fat Albert, Adam Archuleta, JOHN BECK, Sexy Rexy, Shaun Suisham, Graham gaNO.

                                I've seen the Redskins attempt their swinging gate, have a Monday night massacre against Philly and just outright suck in every way, shape and form.

                                But through all the suckage I've been able to sit back and reflect on the glory days. The hogs. Darrell Green. Art Monk. Charles Mann.

                                I've silently browsed these (along with the Eagles and Cowboys) forums for a while, and I've noticed one sad thing. Many of you are entirely OBLIVIOUS. You bash your team, your players and your coach non-stop. You've won two superbowls with this group and are the defending champs, yet many of you claim that you're "Done".

                                All I came here to say was, and without trying to be an antogonist, ENJOY THE GLORY DAYS. Giant's football is very much alive. You guys always start sucking this time of year and then BAM, Superbowl.

                                There will be times in the future, I PROMISE, that you will feel like the biggest jackass for bashing this team. Wake up and be good fans. It's embarassing. Obviously this doesn't apply to everybody.

                                Sure, your co-owner Mara is a POS - but I felt it my duty to remind you guys that one day you will return to the cellar of the NFC east (just like every team does eventually) and will look back on these days fondly. Enjoy them.

                                Sincerely,
                                A fan who has seen A LOT
                                I am old enough to have been in the Giants basement and I hear what you are saying.
                                Except **** YOU for what you said about Mara. Great owner, great family, and great organization.
                                "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                                You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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